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William42

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Jul 31, 2007
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Vital had a good review on some DH tires.


Curious to ride the new Highrollers. After riding several of the newer tires on offer, the conclusion I've come to is that tires peaked with the Supertacky Minion DHF DH casing and everything since then has been a sidegrade or a downgrade depending on how closely the design was copied.

The newest iteration of Highrollers have piqued my curiosity though, they look like they're fairly similar. I'll probably make that my next set of tires, but I'm not in dire need at the moment as I have a pretty fresh set of tires on both my DH and enduro bikes.

Currently riding some Conti Kryptocals (the enduro version) on my enduro bike I was given for free and their review is pretty close to where I'm at. They're pretty good - good enough that I won't take them off my bike until they're worn out, but I probably wont buy another set when I can buy a set of Minion DHFs or the new highrollers. If you're looking for something new to try and just want to mix it up, they're pretty similar in feel to the "Assagai F and Minion DHR R" combo. If you can find them for a decent price, they're a solid combination if that particular tire type floats your boat. Casing is nice and damped, rubber is soft and grippy, and they've performed well pretty much everywhere I've ridden them. Only exception is wet slippery east coast roots they've been pretty awful - I fell 3 times from sliding/looping out when they lost traction on a local XC loop that I've ridden both wet and dry a million times and don't fall on. If you do a lot of wet riding with slippery roots, might be worth steering clear. Traction on that stuff is never great when its wet, but this felt noticably more slippery than the DHF's I had on prior, and those were pretty old and clapped out DHFs.

Happy to see Vee making some tires that appear to be quite good at a much more reasonable pricepoint than maxxis, but I probably wouldn't buy any because they appear to be Assegai/MinionDHRII (like all the other tires in the test) and do the exact thing I don't like, and is the reason I like minion DHFs so much. I don't love not having a clear transition between middle and side knobs, making it harder to judge when traction is going to break. Still though, sounds like the casing is well damped, they have a reasonable weight for a big tire like that, and they use a nice soft rubber and cost $30-40 less than a maxxis tire.
 

djjohnr

Turbo Monkey
Apr 21, 2002
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1,838
Northern California
Once I'm healed up I'm going to test going back to a DHF front (from Assagai) to see how it compares. It's been a few years since I've done a back to back and bike geo is different now.
 

Andeh

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Mar 3, 2020
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The Conti Enduro casing is fine for trail riding but their Soft rubber isn't really that soft. Its like MaxxTerra but even firmer. It lasts FOREVER in comparison to MT. It would be a great compound for summer bike park riding but really not suited for wet conditions. Their Super Soft compound is a lot better but its currently only available in their DH casing line. However, their DH casing weights are very light compared to other companies, like a set of DH Kryptotals weighs about as much as a set of DD Assegai/DHR. Getting back to the rubber, I feel like the SS rubber is firmer still than MaxxGrip or Schwalbe Ultra Soft, but still very grippy because it's very slow rebound (kind of like Michelin does). I can't speak to how well it does on wet roots though because our wet roots are like greased glass, and nothing sticks to them. However, if you're running the SS, it means you're running the DH casing which is very damp and supportive, so you can air down the pressure quite a bit when things are wet to get more compliance.

I strongly prefer the Kryptotal Fr/Re set to Assegai/DHR. The front has a more defined shoulder knob bite than the Assegai, which to me always felt grippy but vague. While the Kryptotal Front will occaisionally start to break loose on dust over hardpack, it sort of stutters then catches again. In the same situation with an Assegai, once it breaks loose it never bites again and just pushes. Also, the Assegai is one of the slowest rolling summer tires I've used, and the Kryptotal Front is MUCH faster rolling than it. The Kryptotal Rear I feel is better than a DHR in basically every aspect for aggressive riding. The knobs are taller and a little bit wider spaced, so it digs in better in loose. But the knobs are also larger so it rolls really really well for what it is. And even the SS rubber compound lasts ages longer than the MT compound, even in dry abrasive conditions.

The High Roller 3 does look very interesting for a fall/winter/spring tire for me. I've also heard rumors that they tweaked their casings silently for that tire. After I heal up and ride my Radial MMs a bit and make my final judgement on them, I'd like to try a set of HR3s compared to Argotals. Shorty is a bit too much for me - Argotal is a step closer to an all-around tire from the Shorty, and it kind of looks like the HR3 is another step in that same direction.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
Pretty good review and pretty thourough...

My guess is they rode the schwalbe less pressure than whats recommended...

That would explain all of there complaints...they do roll ,you have to air them up against your normal numbers for sure and they grab anything and hook up amazing ..less and they do feel squirmy...I tried to ride my pressure out of habit (stubborn) and I'm 5-6 psi higher now...love em..


The contis and high rollers are pretty spot on had a little time on those and agree with them..I liked those tires alot ..the conti gripped really well. (Felt like they would be slow but they weren't).. The rest I've never run...
(But then again I'm dry dusty, kitty litter,rocks and jagged sandpaper terrain)...we do ride NW and loamy, greasy shit in winter and spring usually couple times a year...wood , rocks, roots, snow.

Michelins I've wanted to get a run on and see how they handle ..always curious...
 
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canadmos

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May 29, 2011
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I have Kryptotals, also in the Enduro Soft casing.

I like them, after running Assguy/DHR2 for years. BUT, I will gladly ditch the front unworn one for a super soft enduro casing version, if those ever come out. I will even pay full price for it. JUST RELEASE THEM ALREADY MAN
 

Jozz

Joe Dalton
Apr 18, 2002
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I have Kryptotals, also in the Enduro Soft casing.

I like them, after running Assguy/DHR2 for years. BUT, I will gladly ditch the front unworn one for a super soft enduro casing version, if those ever come out. I will even pay full price for it. JUST RELEASE THEM ALREADY MAN
Why don't you just use the DH one? Your rig doesn't seem like a delicate flower ?
 

canadmos

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May 29, 2011
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Why don't you just use the DH one? Your rig doesn't seem like a delicate flower ?
I guess no reason around here to run them full time, some forests here have zero rocks so don't need much in terms of tires. But we can ride rain or shine, so having a grippy tire up front helps.
 

Jozz

Joe Dalton
Apr 18, 2002
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I guess no reason around here to run them full time, some forests here have zero rocks so don't need much in terms of tires. But we can ride rain or shine, so having a grippy tire up front helps.
I gather you're not stuffin' yer rubber with a soft noodle?
 

canadmos

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May 29, 2011
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I gather you're not stuffin' yer rubber with a soft noodle?
Right, only liquid courage goes into these rubbers :D

I'd usually swap from exo casing Maxxis to DD's for when I venture elsewhere, but with these Continentals I haven't felt the need.
 

Jozz

Joe Dalton
Apr 18, 2002
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Right, only liquid courage goes into these rubbers :D
:brows:

I'd usually swap from exo casing Maxxis to DD's for when I venture elsewhere, but with these Continentals I haven't felt the need.
I'm supposed to have a noodle in my back rim. Was to lazy to get it out. Winter project when I remove the well used Xynotal and put a Krypto in its place. They sure are more robust than Exo Maxxis
 

jrewing

Monkey
Aug 22, 2010
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Vee rubber wce 2.5 if you want grip after a bit of slide when on edge. Very predictable. Wish they tested that tyre. But then again the price would go up.
 

canadmos

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We do have some rox, but in some areas all the rocks were piled up by people trying to settle and farm (they failed, obviously) over the last century or two.

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