Guerrilla Gravity, badass frame manufacturer in Colorado
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Isn't that out of the "Bike Branding 101" class I never took? Ha
Well Canfield stuck to aluminum. I always assumed their frames are made in Asia, yes? Both those are cheaper than making carbon in Denver. Their pedals probably used to be a big revenue stream when they were one of the first thin pedals.
Who was it that wanted to restart GG themselves?
Here's the auction with a bunch of their machinery.
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Here's the auction with a bunch of their machinery.
ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction | Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer lots
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@SylentKWho was it that wanted to restart GG themselves?
Here's the auction with a bunch of their machinery.
ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction | Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer lots
Bid Live at ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction's Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer auction
You're up!
good timing
my partner just asked me what I wanted for christmas
Haas VF2 SSYT CNC Vertical Machining Center, 30 Position CAT 40 Automatic Tool Changer, 18" x 36"
Lot 55 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
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Haas VM6 CNC Vertical Machining Center, 30 Position CAT 40 Automatic Tool Changer, 28" x 64" Tabl
Lot 53 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
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I had heard rumors that REVVED rims were coming, 
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Carbon Fiber Rim Pressing Line (Rim Forming) Automated Shuttle, Infrared Heating System, Hydrauli
Lot 252 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
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^shhhh. only $100 current bid; maybe nobody will notice this auction & my dream of opening a carbon rim manufactory in my garage will be fulfilled. looks like a neat system; substantially lower labor than traditional hand laid rims i assume. curious how they compare (visions of nylon Z-rims from the OG bmx days).
shame they never hit production with all that infrastructure investment in place tho.
shame they never hit production with all that infrastructure investment in place tho.
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That's more than "a bunch", that is everything!Who was it that wanted to restart GG themselves?
Here's the auction with a bunch of their machinery.
ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction | Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer lots
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All the "patented process" molding stuff, machine tools with tooling, metrology equipment, full tool boxes, raw carbon, aluminum billet, probably a fridge with some moldy lunch and a few beers in it as well.
I know there is a healthy aerospace industry up there so some stuff will get snatched, but you could literally bid and buy GG in turn key fashion. Crazy!
I looked through much of the listing but not all of it. I thought there was talk of them using tape laying robotics for doing their layups and I didn't see that on there.
I think these might be it?
3-Roll Carbon Fiber Layout Line w/Feeders, Cutters & Fusing Station w/Overhead Projector (SUBJECT
Lot 225 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
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3-Roll Carbon Fiber Layout Line w/Feeders, Cutters & Fusing Station w/Overhead Projector (SUBJECT
Lot 226 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
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Tape reels, some sort robotic arm feeder head thingy and an overhead projector.
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Money and greed fucks everything up
I was looking for the damn robots...I think these might be it?
3-Roll Carbon Fiber Layout Line w/Feeders, Cutters & Fusing Station w/Overhead Projector (SUBJECT
Lot 225 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
3-Roll Carbon Fiber Layout Line w/Feeders, Cutters & Fusing Station w/Overhead Projector (SUBJECT
Lot 226 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
Tape reels, some sort robotic arm feeder head thingy and an overhead camera.
I should go read their patent.
Looking at those images of the line I'd guess the line feeders trim a specific length of the needed tape and the projector shows the manual operator exactly where to put it. Next precut tape next image showing application. Slideshow projected from above with outline of the tape locations in sequence.
I'd have to go back and re-read or watch the launch material from Rev, I thought they spoke of removing much of the manual labour.
Anyway, if anyone wants to start their own GG they'll get the equipment for a fraction of it's original value.
I saw a start-up once go belly up in 6 months, liquidators came in and sold the equipment to settle the debt and the original operators bought it all back at a fraction of the initial outlay under a new business name.
Can't wait to get a Gorilla Gravity bike in 6 months.
Go to emptybeer, you'll find plenty of those, with damaged fork stantions and hidrolic brakes.
Ex employee on Reddit spilled the beans. The layup was still all done by hand and techs were assisted by a projection tool that provided a visual aid for where the carbon would be placed.
Yeah after digging around in the pictures I figured out the projector.
I wonder if they were doing layup outside the mold then able to drop it into mold before going into the heated press. With pre-preg they usually need to do all lay-up into a mold so the number of molds will be a limiting factor. Being able to knock out lay-up without the mold will allow faster cycle times in molding.
Link to the Reddit thread? Would like to read it.
These were high temp thermoplastic rims like the frames, yes?
What is the "plastic" used in a high temp thermoplastic prepreg?
What is the "plastic" used in a high temp thermoplastic prepreg?
Usually some grade of nylon. There is some PA6 nylon tapes listed there in the auction.
Who is going to buy the pair of kids bikes?
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Who is going to buy the pair of kids bikes?
LOT: (2) Kids Bikes
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It is a standard manufacturing process (one of many) to create flat charges of materials prior to inserting into the mold. That can be automated. Ultrasonic knife CNC machine cuts plies, robot with suction cups stacks plies, then inserts into the mold.
I have worked on large layup machines that apply unidirectional tape directly onto the tooling but that is largely impossible for bikes as the machines don't have the room to get into tight convex molds.
I was wondering how GG automated their process. Turns out it must have just been their mate Otto doing the work. Next we will figure out their linkages weren't free.
I had to pay for mine with the bike, what the hell were you guys getting?
Kidwoo hates freedom®I had to pay for mine with the bike, what the hell were you guys getting?
legitimately did not get that
Honestly I tried to ignore the buzzwerds and just asked matt questions about design
I remember people wondering if they were going to do rims next... looks like they were set up to do exactly that:
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LOT: COMPLETE RIM LINE, PATENT & LEGACY ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS (LOTS 249-254A INCLUSIVE): 2-Roll C
Lot 248 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
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There are like three dudes posting above this that are already making plans to takeover the rim world with this stuffI remember people wondering if they were going to do rims next... looks like they were set up to do exactly that:
LOT: COMPLETE RIM LINE, PATENT & LEGACY ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS (LOTS 249-254A INCLUSIVE): 2-Roll C
Lot 248 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
oh, missed that, sorry!There are like three dudes posting above this that are already making plans to takeover the rim world with this stuff
Heard recently that the rims were pretty much done and ready to go.I remember people wondering if they were going to do rims next... looks like they were set up to do exactly that:
LOT: COMPLETE RIM LINE, PATENT & LEGACY ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS (LOTS 249-254A INCLUSIVE): 2-Roll C
Lot 248 at Thermoplastic Carbon Fiber Bike Manufacturer from ThreeSixty Asset Advisors LLC / PPL Auction.
Single wall design like the Zipp Moto rims.
Seeing that some people didn't jive with the name/logo/rocknroll themes of GG, I was all set to buy the whole assets and had all my marketing and paperwork done for the new company name (Guest Guacamole™). But some dickhead bought the laminator and I am stuck with the name. Oh well, that'll teach me, but at least I can use the name for something else.
I should start a company called Gullible n' Greedy
Those of you who know my ambitious goals within the industry.......let's get some investment together and get some carbon pressin shit.
Let's have some fun and get rich
or just more realistically pay some bills while giving some dentists very good reasons that justify their chosen profession
Those of you who know my ambitious goals within the industry.......let's get some investment together and get some carbon pressin shit.
Let's have some fun and get rich
or just more realistically pay some bills while giving some dentists very good reasons that justify their chosen profession
imagine trying to run a bike company with all of you, the gnashing of teeth would be obscene.
I do see in the auction listing that there are a few boxes marked obsolete jigs.
Maybe that has all of the alloy bike frame jigs in them
I do see in the auction listing that there are a few boxes marked obsolete jigs.
Maybe that has all of the alloy bike frame jigs in them
It has nothing to do with bike companies specifically and everything to do with vulture capitalism.
maybe gnashing of teeth wasnt the best phrase, I was referring to if we all pitched in and bought the tooling, assuming everyone has an equal vote, getting a design that everyone agrees on lol
Probably easier than you think. Just do what I say and you'll thank me later when you realize I was right.