Guerrilla Gravity, badass frame manufacturer in Colorado
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Yep, I've had an X2 on for a while now. Lots of local trail rides. Probably the best air shock I've had. Very active, like a coil. It just works. Bobs a bit more than my monarch, but it is much more supple than the monarch. I followed Fox's recommended settings, then fine tuned from there. Basically a bit more compression for the bob and pumping and a tiny more rebound as I thought it was a little bouncy on medium sized things. 2 air rings thingy's. I'm 180 and have around 260psi which gives it 14mm-ish sag (Super Gravity mode). Have not tried it at the ski resorts yet (aka bike parks). But that'll be soon. Hoping it won't heat up and die like other air shocks do on long rough descents at Keystone.
If you hate your CCDBA and Monarch and prefer a DHish shock. This shock is for you. Unless you have $1200 laying around. Then get the eleventysix.
If you hate your CCDBA and Monarch and prefer a DHish shock. This shock is for you. Unless you have $1200 laying around. Then get the eleventysix.
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Have you ridden your mega with a ccdba?
Yep, I've had an X2 on for a while now. Lots of local trail rides. Probably the best air shock I've had. Very active, like a coil. It just works. Bobs a bit more than my monarch, but it is much more supple than the monarch. I followed Fox's recommended settings, then fine tuned from there. Basically a bit more compression for the bob and pumping and a tiny more rebound as I thought it was a little bouncy on medium sized things. 2 air rings thingy's. I'm 180 and have around 260psi which gives it 14mm-ish sag (Super Gravity mode). Have not tried it at the ski resorts yet (aka bike parks). But that'll be soon. Hoping it won't heat up and die like other air shocks do on long rough descents at Keystone.
If you hate your CCDBA and Monarch and prefer a DHish shock. This shock is for you. Unless you have $1200 laying around. Then get the eleventysix.
I've run both an air and coil CCDB on mine, so I'll post up some thoughts once my X2 gets here. Going to be a month or so though, it's backordered.
I'm curious to hear the thoughts on the spring and damper of the X2.
Are people going air for weight-savings? I'm starting to roll around the idea of a MegaTrail as a bike to try for my next all-round bike. And I like the simplicity of a coil.
largely yes. air shocks have gotten really good, although a lot of top pros still tend to rock coils, as they're probably the only ones who can actually benefit from the slight performance advantage of coils.
also, they're popular from an OEM perspective because all you need is a shock pump to get the right spring rate. no need to dick around with different coil rates.
Regardless of some peoples' reverence for coils, you will never, never get one that ramps up like you can an air spring. The megatrail isn't one of them but some bikes absolutely need this to genuinely bang into things and stay composed. You can play with HS comp damping all day long but it still doesn't quite work the same. At least not on any damper I've ever ridden.
That works the other way too though. Some bikes ramp up so oddly with air springs, a more linear coil helps bring them back to reality.
That works the other way too though. Some bikes ramp up so oddly with air springs, a more linear coil helps bring them back to reality.
Yah - this was always the advantage that seemed the most "real" - but with all the modern talk about bands and oil weight and all that other $hit... it makes my head hurt.
And being a skilless hack... I have to keep it simple.
Because physics!
Exactly. An air spring is never going to be as smooth as a coil, due to all the extra seal drag and so on, but there are a lot of bikes that need the extra ramp up that you get from an air spring. Of course, depending how you want to look at it (and the degree to which it's the case), that either means that the bike needs an air shock to act as a band aid for a shitty leverage curve, or just that the bike was decently designed to accommodate an air spring curve.
The MT is mildly, linearly progressive which is good. I've run both an air and coil CCDB on mine, and overall, still liked the air better for the extra ramp up deeper in the travel. It's not like a lot of other bikes (looking at you, Santa Cruz) that are substantially digressive at the end of the travel, and really need an air shock to try to try to mitigate that, but an air shock still worked better for me. That said, it's not like it rode badly with a coil or anything, and the extra mid stroke support from the coil was welcome. Chalk it up to personal preference at that point.
agreed. i'd say air shocks are certainly more versatile in that sense.
Actually, I'd say most of the SC trail bikes ride better with a coil. It's the top end and middle stroke that's all fucked up on most of them. But you setup for that and then yeah, the end stroke gets weird.
But yeah, I wish everyone would just make bikes with a straightish progressive leverage curve with no dumb shit at the ends. The ones that do work well with both kinds of springs and you can pick your poison a lot easier.
But yeah, I wish everyone would just make bikes with a straightish progressive leverage curve with no dumb shit at the ends. The ones that do work well with both kinds of springs and you can pick your poison a lot easier.
Yeah, it's kind of lose-lose situation with them. Something is going to be fucked up no matter which way you go.
Plus, what we would we do with all those extra patent linkz?
Good luck getting a marketing job in the bike industry bru...
The DBAir is great. Bigger guys seem to have better luck with those than the Inline.
I'm a touch over 200 on an inline (granted on a spitfire, not a GG), thankfully haven't had any issues yet, been very pleased with it. :knocks on wood: granted, not riding anything really gnarly on it.
You need to pedal harder into those solitary roots and rocks.
You can do that?
Be right back..............
Be right back..............
niner?
e-fat-plus-niner. with booooooooooooooooooooost.
