[CheetaMike]

Good point. I guess as long as you're adept at changing head gaskets and 4 wheel drifts, they're bro-worthy...says the guy who desperately wants a Trail Pistol with clown wheels

As for bar ends, I am hopeful they become the next full-enduro accoutrement...I mean shit, they have brush guards now, so why not?

bark busters is what the dirt bike guys use , there has been a few guys who have done it over the years on there mtb ,s , I have considered it on some hills , nothing like trying to tear your pinky finger off on a tree or branch

 

[jstuhlman]

bark busters is what the dirt bike guys use , there has been a few guys who have done it over the years on there mtb ,s , I have considered it on some hills , nothing like trying to tear your pinky finger off on a tree or branch

the trails i like to ride on are often remote and quite overgrown with rhododendrons goat head thorns, and other such vegetal aggressors. as such, infrequently emerge from said trails with my forearms ripped to shreds looking like i have been battling a cougar (either the feline OR the 60-year old ex-milf manicured variety-take your pick). perhaps we could come up with an endur-bro approved, extended version, which would cover one's entire forearm? please submit clever names, preferably with stylishly-place apostrophes, for approval of said concept and possibly a shot at a free set (this is NOT a Tantrum-style contest). i.e., Arm'R; Cou'Gard; etc.

 

[jackalope]

The Alternative Princess Glove

Or to satisfy your inner dentite, how 'bout the Copper Centurion-

 

[StiHacka]

@roflbox Since you're new to the scene, Iet me offer this useful graphic, which can help with making all sorts of important life decisions:

You forgot root beer anodizing and PIIHB.

 

[CheetaMike]

the trails i like to ride on are often remote and quite overgrown with rhododendrons goat head thorns, and other such vegetal aggressors. as such, infrequently emerge from said trails with my forearms ripped to shreds looking like i have been battling a cougar (either the feline OR the 60-year old ex-milf manicured variety-take your pick). perhaps we could come up with an endur-bro approved, extended version, which would cover one's entire forearm? please submit clever names, preferably with stylishly-place apostrophes, for approval of said concept and possibly a shot at a free set (this is NOT a Tantrum-style contest). i.e., Arm'R; Cou'Gard; etc.

Lol got several scars from black berry bushes and the likes.

 

[UncleRico]

+1 for a megatrail ss coil option. How about somethIng similar for the trail pistol?

 

[mtg]

+1 for a megatrail ss coil option. How about somethIng similar for the trail pistol?

Noted.

Trail Pistol coil shocks are already on order, and I have one on my Pistol now

Anybody else feel free to keep adding input on shock options.

 

[UncleRico]

Noted.

Trail Pistol coil shocks are already on order, and I have one on my Pistol now

.

Please elaborate

 

[HAB]

[QUOTE="mtg, post: 4182874, member:
Anybody else feel free to keep adding input on shock options.[/QUOTE]

Any idea if Fox is joining the metric party? The Float X2 is hands down the best shock I've tried on my (unrideable, tiny wheel) MT, over both air and coil DBs.

 

[mtg]

Any idea if Fox is joining the metric party? The Float X2 is hands down the best shock I've tried on my (unrideable, tiny wheel) MT, over both air and coil DBs.

Not sure on Fox.

 

[mrgto]

I wonder if a Ford pickup is a suitable replacement for the Toyota...

My F350 gets better mileage than my wife's Tacoma if that helps.

 

[mrgto]

It can haul a tiny wheel MT up to Molas Lake along with a 5th wheel too.

 

[HAB]

I don't own it so certainly haven't put it through it's paces. But on that new transition patrol carbon, that thing is tits. Super supple off the top. Probably the most so of any air shock I've experienced. Like with a coil, I could just about initiate movement with my index finger on the seat.

They still don't make good compression damping circuits so pairing it with an intelligently designed bike (talking leverage here) is a good idea. But that's always the case with any shock.

"It doesn't have any compression damping but it's plush, so I like it"


Who are you and what have you done with @kidwoo?

 

[Flo33]

"It doesn't have any compression damping but it's plush, so I like it"


Who are you and what have you done with @kidwoo?

I sense Lizzzzardzzzzz.

@mtg any chance to buy an old and completely outdated and unrideabru MT with 200x57 shock dimensions? I have 6 of those in my bike hole... Would consider buying without shock, can be a demo whore, don't care about colors... even in tiny wheel fashion. Any?

 

[mtg]

I sense Lizzzzardzzzzz.

@mtg any chance to buy an old and completely outdated and unrideabru MT with 200x57 shock dimensions? I have 6 of those in my bike hole... Would consider buying without shock, can be a demo whore, don't care about colors... even in tiny wheel fashion. Any?

Give us a call, there are a couple left

 

[Metamorphic]

I had a DB Air CS on my Spitfire for a year. About a month ago, I switched to the DB Coil Inline. There is a lot of online sciencing that may stand to suggest even this bike isn't ideal for a coil. But ho-lee-gawd. It's fantastic.

The DBCoil[IL], with spring, is within grams of a piggyback DB Air CS. So weight wise, it's a wash. And it rips. I'd imagine other manufacturers are developing trail coils as well that should put the weight issue to bed. I'd also posit that the more these trail coil shocks get better (better damping, lower weight), the more people will be riding them. Still relatively new to have a trail specific coil shock made for not DH. I mean come on, my coil has a climb mode.

That said, @SuboptimusPrime nailed it. A coil'd ~140mm bike with a 160mm fork. All over NC, it is giddy amounts of fun. And we have everything from smooth flats to gnar chutes full of baby heads.

All that rambling to say, yes, coil option for SS. +1.

 

[mrgto]

I'd love to try a coil shock but I'd need a 600lb coil so it would weigh a to and I don't think CC makes one.

I'll go eat a salad now....

 

[StiHacka]

I don't feel the urge of going coil any more as my DVO Topaz does not have any detectable stiction I would want to get rid of with coil. IMHO there's more at play than just the air vs coil spring - I suspect the bladder instead of IFP has its effect as well.

 

[jackalope]

Maybe not a big issue, but as someone who just installed an Inline coil, I will be curious to see if a coil sprung shock offers less performance degradation as it approaches (or surpasses) the recommended service interval. I've always felt my air sprung suspension started to feel enshittened around or even before the recommended service interval.

 

[Jim Mac]

@roflbox Since you're new to the scene, Iet me offer this useful graphic, which can help with making all sorts of important life decisions:

I'm so confused...I mean I have 5.10's but still drive a Subaru....does it help that I fought with them for 2 years to get a new engine and am still in a huff about it?

 

[jackalope]

I'm so confused...I mean I have 5.10's but still drive a Subaru....does it help that I fought with them for 2 years to get a new engine and am still in a huff about it?

Bro cred approved, if for no other reason that you're a better man than me for suffering through the SOA "warranty" process. I gave up after the 2nd engine in my wife's Forester melted.

 

[mtg]

Please elaborate

I've already said too much

 

[djjohnr]

Subaru turbos usually go ~100k miles. The trick is to sell them at 90k.

 

[mdc]

I've got the Rock Shox Super Deluxe on my Pistola, and it is awesome. I think a coil shock for a 120 or 130 bike might be a wee bit of overkill- but options are good so who cares!

 

[4130biker]

Transition used to fill the short travel, coil sprung niche with the Preston and the first dirtbag. Those bikes were super fun (and the travel felt awesome), and I want to have a coil on my next do it all rig.
+1 for coil optionz!

 

[mtg]

Thanks for the feedback, guys.

 

[captainspauldin]

Subaru turbos usually go ~100k miles. The trick is to sell them at 90k.

At that point you're on engine #2 or #3... Trick is to not buy the 2.5L.

 

[mtg]

At that point you're on engine #2 or #3... Trick is to not buy the 2.5L.

My naturally aspirated 2.5L that I bought 10 years ago just keeps on going. Granted, no turbo...

 

[mtg]

Also for a coil option on the big Megatrail... Looking at first for Push 11-6, but a CCDB Coil CS would be a nice (and cheapest) option...

I didn't ask about opinions of running a coil shock on the full strength Megatrail.





Because we already have them on order

 

[slyfink]

I wonder if a Ford pickup is a suitable replacement for the Toyota...

Pretty off-topic (but this thread always has a way of coming home to roost...), but I was listening to this on the walk into work this morning: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2017/01/25/511663527/episode-632-the-chicken-tax and there was no mention of the popularity of the Tacoma in there. Why is that? Is it "built" in the US? Or is it just that much better that the American trucks that people will pony up the cash for it? Sorry to derail...

 

[dcamp29]

They still don't make good compression damping circuits so pairing it with an intelligently designed bike (talking leverage here) is a good idea. But that's always the case with any shock.

Hey @kidwoo what is your specific complaint? Harsh? Mushy? I know a guy who can make changes to these things.

 

[Jim Mac]

My naturally aspirated 2.5L that I bought 10 years ago just keeps on going. Granted, no turbo...

Operative words here are "10 years", anything after 2013 is shite (see: my '14 Outback for an example!)

 

[aenema]

Anything prior to 2013 was also shit. Head gasket on every one of them went out and they used a timing belt vs chain. Moral of story, if you have a long lived Subaru, count yourself among the very lucky.

 

[Nick]

Hey @kidwoo what is your specific complaint? Harsh? Mushy? I know a guy who can make changes to these things.

yea? can he tune the suck out of my Monarch Plus rc3??
pls let me know!

 

[jonKranked]

Anything prior to 2013 was also shit. Head gasket on every one of them went out and they used a timing belt vs chain. Moral of story, if you have a long lived Subaru, count yourself among the very lucky.

the redesigned imprezas from '12 forward don't have the issue as far as i'm aware; that year was a complete redesign from the ground up

 

[captainspauldin]

My naturally aspirated 2.5L that I bought 10 years ago just keeps on going. Granted, no turbo...

Yeah, that works also, just gotta watch for the Headgasket on those right?

 

[SkaredShtles]

Operative words here are "10 years", anything after 2013 is shite (see: my '14 Outback for an example!)

Stuff before that isn't great either. 2.5l head gaskets... 1996-2???. i suspect if mtg hasn't had this issue... he will.

 

[dcamp29]

yea? can he tune the suck out of my Monarch Plus rc3??
pls let me know!

Specifics please- what does it do poorly? What have you ridden that is better?

 

[djjohnr]

At that point you're on engine #2 or #3... Trick is to not buy the 2.5L.

No, the trick is to buy a WRX, not a Forrester/Outback

 

[Nick]

Specifics please- what does it do poorly? What have you ridden that is better?

At correct sag, I haven't found a combination of volume reducers to provide support through the entire stroke that doesn't leave it feeling harsh. The open setting seems very overdamped (granted it's a meduim tune) for my Turner RFX. If I could change anything I THINK I'd reduce the compression damping in open, running 4 reducers (5?) and use the mid setting for a little bit more low speed compression. Right now the baseline just feels over damped in normal riding conditions. I looked for a Low tune compression valve on line but wasn't sure I wanted to rip into it.

I've borrowed/tried a CCDBA which I liked, (in fact I bought a new CCDBAw/CS but it was DOA out of the box) then tried an 11-6 which I run now and love. Only downside to the coil is the weight. It shines in every other way.

Thanks.