Quantcast

Guerrilla Gravity, badass frame manufacturer in Colorado

  • Two more days to enter the Secret Santa!

    Entries must be in by midnight on November 29th. We're kicking off the 2024 Secret Santa! Exchange gifts with other monkeys - from beer and snacks, to bike gear, to custom machined holiday decorations and tools by our more talented members, there's something for everyone.

    Click here for details and to learn how to participate.

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
88,941
27,128
media blackout
Ah, I misunderstood you the first time. As far as what the other industry composites guys said, it’s unlikely they would tell a reporter “shit, we should have figured this out and started doing it ourselves by now”. However, that has been happening privately. Our material supplier said they’ve heard almost exactly that from some “big guys” in the industry.
so is that the closest you're gonna get to hate mail? :D
 

Sandwich

Pig my fish!
Staff member
May 23, 2002
21,871
7,112
borcester rhymes
finally read that article. Not much to comment besides I think it's fantastic you guys are getting as much coverage that you are, that people are buying your frames the way they are and that you have been successful in collecting additional grants in addition to just selling bikes. I'm thrilled that you are able to keep making frame in the US and at the same time, they're pretty cutting edge. There's very little I would want to change on such a bike, and I can really pick a nit with the best of them. Looks like I don't need to look far for my next frame, whenever that is.

Also, I hate the way the headtube looks with the headset -10mm.
 

Happymtb.fr

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2016
2,074
1,442
SWE
From the article: "The bike industry could (need) some reinvigoration right now. Revenues have been flat to declining since 2010, and in 2018, sales of bikes decline in units by 10 percent year over year. The mountain bike category especially suffered, with a 28 percent decrease in bikes sold."

Do you know if it is for the US market or a worldwide trend?
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
1,862
1,604
Denver, CO
From the article: "The bike industry could (need) some reinvigoration right now. Revenues have been flat to declining since 2010, and in 2018, sales of bikes decline in units by 10 percent year over year. The mountain bike category especially suffered, with a 28 percent decrease in bikes sold."

Do you know if it is for the US market or a worldwide trend?
I’m not sure on the specifics of those numbers. It seems grim, but maybe that includes recreational mountain bikes (sub $2000), or encapsulates some other shrinking market.
 

junkyard

You might feel a little prick.
Sep 1, 2015
2,618
2,349
San Diego
I called in, two more weeks “maybe” for delivery of my new megatrail. Not sure what to do with my first gen megatrail. If I remember correctly it’s number 329, it may be one of a kind as I ordered it with no bottle cage nuts installed. What’s up with getting the rear triangle on the new one in raw?
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
1,862
1,604
Denver, CO
No raw on the rear triangle, the purpose of only doing one powder coat color/finish was to speed things up quite a bit in manufacturing. We knew there were going to be lead times, and this helps more than you would think at keeping them moving faster through the system.

Speaking of serial numbers, my personal Pedälhead is s/n 666. Back when I put it in the queue, we noticed that number coming up soon, and I put dibs on it.
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
1,862
1,604
Denver, CO
No problem. It’s pretty crazy, scaling manufacturing at this pace is a thing. When we hire the next round of folks, we may need to put a Johnny on the Spot in the parking lot. There’s almost a line for the pooper now.
If anybody followed Tesla scaling up the Model 3 production in 17-18, this must feel similar, albeit obviously not quite the same scale.
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
1,862
1,604
Denver, CO
And, Size 2, Ben and I have both been cranking out a number of the details to get production rolling. Bailey has been keeping up to date to give the most accurate time lines possible. Probably late April is when the first will be headed to customers. We’re behind schedule, but working on getting production going 7 days/week to get back on track.
 

jackalope

Mental acuity - 1%
Jan 9, 2004
7,707
6,112
in a single wide, cooking meth...
No problem. It’s pretty crazy, scaling manufacturing at this pace is a thing. When we hire the next round of folks, we may need to put a Johnny on the Spot in the parking lot. There’s almost a line for the pooper now.
If anybody followed Tesla scaling up the Model 3 production in 17-18, this must feel similar, albeit obviously not quite the same scale.


So stoked for mtg and GG
 

dan-o

Turbo Monkey
Jun 30, 2004
6,499
2,805
Mike Sinyard wants to know when you're suing Santa Cruz for the Megatower name.

I was waiting for the release of that bike to determine my next bike and, as nice as it sounds, it failed to knock the smash off the top of the list.
Whoever delivers goon size to market first, once funds come together, will be ultimate decider.
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
67,942
14,220
In a van.... down by the river
Mike Sinyard wants to know when you're suing Santa Cruz for the Megatower name.
This was the FIRST thing that came to my brain when I heard about the Megatower a few days back. :rofl:

<snip>
Whoever delivers goon size to market first, once funds come together, will be ultimate decider.
How big are you? Because at 6'1" the L Megatrail felt HUGE to me.
 

dan-o

Turbo Monkey
Jun 30, 2004
6,499
2,805
This was the FIRST thing that came to my brain when I heard about the Megatower a few days back. :rofl:


How big are you? Because at 6'1" the L Megatrail felt HUGE to me.
6'4
I'm wholly unfamiliar with GG sizing as they don't exist around here, yet.
My XL nomad3 is smaller than I'd like so the XXL megatower (again need to check new fit versus HT-LT) was the plan before the smash caught my eye.
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
1,862
1,604
Denver, CO
At 6’4”, Size 4 in The Smash is exactly your size. Availability for size 4 orders is planned for May.

Ha, I didn’t actually think the name Megatower was too close to Megatrail. We’ll leave the frivolous lawsuits up to other companies to pursue. :)
 

junkyard

You might feel a little prick.
Sep 1, 2015
2,618
2,349
San Diego
No raw on the rear triangle, the purpose of only doing one powder coat color/finish was to speed things up quite a bit in manufacturing. We knew there were going to be lead times, and this helps more than you would think at keeping them moving faster through the system.

Speaking of serial numbers, my personal Pedälhead is s/n 666. Back when I put it in the queue, we noticed that number coming up soon, and I put dibs on it.
Thats cool, as long as i get my fleshlight ill be happy.
 

dan-o

Turbo Monkey
Jun 30, 2004
6,499
2,805
@mtg, I'm likely going the Push route when I order.
Based on reviews it sounds like plush will be my go-to setup, with the shock modes set up for trail and lift/shuttle days.
My goal is to use shock to extend usable range of bike rather than a climb/descent mode etc.
For example, our VT trips often involve long trail rides in morning and shuttles/park in afternoon.
What push set ups have you seen/ridden and any suggestions?
 

SuboptimusPrime

Turbo Monkey
Aug 18, 2005
1,666
1,651
NorCack
@mtg, I'm likely going the Push route when I order.
Based on reviews it sounds like plush will be my go-to setup, with the shock modes set up for trail and lift/shuttle days.
My goal is to use shock to extend usable range of bike rather than a climb/descent mode etc.
For example, our VT trips often involve long trail rides in morning and shuttles/park in afternoon.
What push set ups have you seen/ridden and any suggestions?
When I got my 11-6, I talked with Darren about setting up my shock exactly like this (on a V1 Megatrail). It worked great--he suggested a digressive tune for the "trail" setting and it was great for trail riding and jump trails. The full on DH setting was actually still good for rougher trail riding, but was amazing for DH. Darren actually said this was a very common request from GG users.

Since then, I've run the same basic idea on a aluminum Shred Dogg and just got the shock rebuilt to go full strength Megatrail. Bottom line: I think this is the best use of the 11-6 and is what makes the cost and weight of the shock worth it for people with expected usage similar to ours.
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
88,941
27,128
media blackout
When I got my 11-6, I talked with Darren about setting up my shock exactly like this (on a V1 Megatrail). It worked great--he suggested a digressive tune for the "trail" setting and it was great for trail riding and jump trails. The full on DH setting was actually still good for rougher trail riding, but was amazing for DH. Darren actually said this was a very common request from GG users.

Since then, I've run the same basic idea on a aluminum Shred Dogg and just got the shock rebuilt to go full strength Megatrail. Bottom line: I think this is the best use of the 11-6 and is what makes the cost and weight of the shock worth it for people with expected usage similar to ours.
do you do any lift service bike park days on it?
 

jackalope

Mental acuity - 1%
Jan 9, 2004
7,707
6,112
in a single wide, cooking meth...
do you do any lift service bike park days on it?
I will answer for him and say "nope", but there's been a buncha Pisgah days on it, and those can be as brutal as almost any lift serve place. I would also say that several of the places close to us (e.g. Baileys, Sugar, Beech) aren't super conducive to anything short of a real DH bike. You of course can ride those places on basically anything, but it would beat the amoral fuck out of you if you're riding it at pace with a Shred Dogg or similar bike. For smoother, less hectic places, I'm sure a GG MT or Smash with a 11-6 would be great...
 

jstuhlman

bagpipe wanker
Dec 3, 2009
17,364
14,202
Cackalacka du Nord
I will answer for him and say "nope", but there's been a buncha Pisgah days on it, and those can be as brutal as almost any lift serve place. I would also say that several of the places close to us (e.g. Baileys, Sugar, Beech) aren't super conducive to anything short of a real DH bike. You of course can ride those places on basically anything, but it would beat the amoral fuck out of you if you're riding it at pace with a Shred Dogg or similar bike. For smoother, less hectic places, I'm sure a GG MT or Smash with a 11-6 would be great...
*reads with interest while sitting at the top of the yellowbuck hike-a-bike*
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
88,941
27,128
media blackout
I will answer for him and say "nope", but there's been a buncha Pisgah days on it, and those can be as brutal as almost any lift serve place. I would also say that several of the places close to us (e.g. Baileys, Sugar, Beech) aren't super conducive to anything short of a real DH bike. You of course can ride those places on basically anything, but it would beat the amoral fuck out of you if you're riding it at pace with a Shred Dogg or similar bike. For smoother, less hectic places, I'm sure a GG MT or Smash with a 11-6 would be great...
my dh bike is largely collecting dust these days. what i'm considering is having a set of DH wheels/tires for my MT (i already have stuff to build this up) and maybe a burlier fork for lift access days. a coil shock would be a nice upgrade, but maybe a little farther down the road. sell the DH bike to fund a trail pistol.

just out of curiosity, anyone ever stick a dual crown fork on a megatrail?