I know, I was just busting your balls.
When I was a kid in MI it wasn't uncommon, nor a cause for lockdown, for us to have rifles in our cars at school. Times have changed.
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When I was a kid in MI it wasn't uncommon, nor a cause for lockdown, for us to have rifles in our cars at school. Times have changed.
You put a gun in a gun rack? I thought those were for fishing poles and baseball bats.
We called them Assault Racks but the correct term is Modern Sporting Racks.You put a gun in a gun rack? I thought those were for fishing poles and baseball bats.
I guess those items wouldn't be totally out of place.
What a couple of idiots...if Portland PoPo couldnt find something else to charge these guys with they just arent trying..."observe the person to determine if the person is aggressive..." Because I often take my M4 for a leisurely stroll down to $tarbuck$...
man, it's those violent computer games... they really should be banned...
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So full of win.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/15/16524425-nra-releases-practice-range-shooting-app-after-blaming-video-games-for-violence?lite
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/15/16524425-nra-releases-practice-range-shooting-app-after-blaming-video-games-for-violence?lite
<edit> I played it this morning, it sucks.
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Someone page syadasti so I can get an irony check on this.So full of win.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/15/16524425-nra-releases-practice-range-shooting-app-after-blaming-video-games-for-violence?lite
<edit> I played it this morning, it sucks.
Hypocrisy - Yes. Irony - TBD.
It's NOT violent, it's only people shaped targets. Damn you guys, the NRA wouldn't do anything to put youth at risk.
One thing that made me chuckle is the random gun safety tips while the game is loading.
Gun Safety Tip #8
Never use alcohol or drugs before or while shooting.
<edit> OMG
Gun Safety Tip #10
Stop shooting immediately if you think you may have experienced a gun malfunction.
One thing that made me chuckle is the random gun safety tips while the game is loading.
Gun Safety Tip #8
Never use alcohol or drugs before or while shooting.
<edit> OMG
Gun Safety Tip #10
Stop shooting immediately if you think you may have experienced a gun malfunction.
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Yeah games and movies only make you kill people when it's gory and realistic. When death looks like no consequence fun it's all ok and there is no way it will turn you into a killer. I love how many of the gun advocates use that logic.It's NOT violent, it's only people shaped targets. Damn you guys, the NRA wouldn't do anything to put youth at risk.
One thing that made me chuckle is the random gun safety tips while the game is loading.
Gun Safety Tip #8
Never use alcohol or drugs before or while shooting.
<edit> OMG
Gun Safety Tip #10
Stop shooting immediately if you think you may have experienced a gun malfunction.
soooo why are people freaking out about obamas executive actions? I've heard people go so far as to say he's "wiping his ass with the constitution" 
i've read the 23 executive orders, most of which seem to improve programs already in place (background checks, safety programs, training for first responders), and making some first steps to improving access to mental health care. here they are:
1. "Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system."
2. "Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system."
3. "Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system."
4. "Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."
5. "Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun."
6. "Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers."
7. "Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign."
8. "Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission)."
9. "Issue a presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations."
10. "Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement."
11. "Nominate an ATF director."
12. "Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations."
13. "Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime."
14. "Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."
15. "Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies."
16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."
17. "Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities."
18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."
19. "Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education."
20. "Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover."
21. "Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges."
22. "Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations."
23. "Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health."
i've read the 23 executive orders, most of which seem to improve programs already in place (background checks, safety programs, training for first responders), and making some first steps to improving access to mental health care. here they are:
1. "Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system."
2. "Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system."
3. "Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system."
4. "Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."
5. "Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun."
6. "Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers."
7. "Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign."
8. "Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission)."
9. "Issue a presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations."
10. "Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement."
11. "Nominate an ATF director."
12. "Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations."
13. "Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime."
14. "Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."
15. "Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies."
16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."
17. "Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities."
18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."
19. "Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education."
20. "Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover."
21. "Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges."
22. "Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations."
23. "Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health."
coughcoughIh8Ricecoughcough
If you are for the executive order changes, what part of of Obama's proposed legislative changes do you find problematic? Serious question as they seem pretty mild to me. If anything, they are less aggressive than gun measures taken by the 2nd to last Republican president. Large majorities of nearly every voting block including NRA members support universal background checks.
careful chief, you start throwin them kinda words around you'll get a quick ticket to the -rep train
[edit] also, you sound like a pretty big freakin' idiot when you say "haven't read the thread, don't plan on it", and then immediately proceed to pass judgement on everyone because of their opinions that you haven't read. [/edit]
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let's take a bit of a poll here...
how many of you have actually lost a friend or family member due to gun violence?
how many of you have actually lost a friend or family member due to gun violence?
Here. More than one...
I personally lost a few friends in high school. High school I went to served one of the highest crime areas in Pennsylvania.
None.
If you have to supress reasearch in order to solidify your position, maybe you need a new position.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/01/14/169164414/lack-of-up-to-date-research-complicates-gun-debate?roundtwo
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/01/14/169164414/lack-of-up-to-date-research-complicates-gun-debate?roundtwo
This was posted to fb by someone I know that is a gun owner:
Aye.
Not a family member but the mother of a friend in high school. THAT high school where she was shot.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-03-06/story/episcopal-school-head-dale-regan-killed-fired-teacher-who-then-kills
None that I am aware of. No family members and no friends that come to mind.
I have been chased by someone who emptied a revolver at us. Fortunately, no one was hit.
Is anyone else concerned that the Dems might not be stepping on their own dicks on this issue? To be clear, I'm not against anything I've seen so far, but is the greater American® public going to view this as an over reach?
Not friends, but classmates in high school.
-Classmate Bryan Britton slaughtered his whole family: parents, sister,brother. This was back in the good old days where kids had rifles in their cars, he used to bring his gun to school and actually worked on it in metal shop.
-Another classmate was accidentally shot and killed by his neighbor.
-20 years after I last spoke to him a kid who used live down the street was murdered.
I have been shot at twice, once as a teenager by some knuckle dragging moron who thought it would be funny to shoot at my feet.
Had a bullet whizz by me when hiking out in the Cascades. No idea what the intent was but standing on the top of a snow capped peak wearing blue and orange clothes I doubt I was mistaken for an animal.
Edit: Britton article
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/23/nyregion/parents-and-a-brother-slain-by-self-styled-rambo-16.html?src=pm
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I'm not sure many of them actually comprehend what is going on and being said.
There is that.
http://www.king5.com/news/cities/seattle/SPD-Arrest-made-in-Justin-Ferrari-murder-case-163090866.html
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How about suicides with a stolen gun? (Guns should be locked up, mmmkay)
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I'm starting to hate RM
haye guise, wats goin on in this thread?
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.I'm starting to hate RM
you misspelled judgment
3 suicides in high school
apparently, it's really tough being white & middle class
also, anybody else notice the littleton hs massacre happened smack dab in the middle of the fed'l assault weapons ban? just in case anyone here speculated this might be a silver bullet [/mmike]
i like these heart-warming stories, especially when they're local:
http://www.gazette.com/articles/arrested-149882-apartment-encountered.html
tl;dr version - iraq vet & newlywed couple comes home to robbery in progress & are shot dead by a 17yo kid w/o a stable family.
fabulous
e: stormfront forums have a predictable response
http://www.gazette.com/articles/arrested-149882-apartment-encountered.html
tl;dr version - iraq vet & newlywed couple comes home to robbery in progress & are shot dead by a 17yo kid w/o a stable family.
fabulous
e: stormfront forums have a predictable response
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the one where they used banned weapons like the tec 9? The one where there was a shootout with armed officers and supposedly an armed officer on premises when the shooting brokeout? The one where they got their guns illegally through friends or through fun loopholes ie da gun show?
how would actually preventing them from getting those weapons not have reduced the death toll?
There's no silver bullet.
how would actually preventing them from getting those weapons not have reduced the death toll?
There's no silver bullet.
it would have eliminated the death toll, most likely. i'm just assuming they wouldn't have used a knife, club, hands, feet, or homemade bomb lethally. i could be wrong. it is just speculation, after all.
oh, that story about the iraq vet & wife who were murdered a couple days ago? yeah, well, his wife was 3mo pregnant when she was slaughtered w/ a gun. so that's just fkking awesome
When the fvck did that happen? This is the first I've heard of that. And why the fvck are you on the stormfront forums?
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just this week. i'll have to ask a buddy of mine if he's gone hands-on w/ him (works in jail & courthouse)
b/c these guys* need to diversify
*cuidado: highly racist link
