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rockofullr

confused
Jun 11, 2009
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East Bay, Cali
https://local.theonion.com/man-with-20-rifles-can-t-remember-if-his-goal-to-start-1826236224?utm_campaign=SF&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=Facebook&utm_content=Main

Man With 20 Rifles Can’t Remember If His Goal To Start Or Stop Violent Overthrow Of Government

I mean, when Obama was president, they were for sure so I could overthrow the government. But now, I feel like it might be to defend it? Man, I sure don’t know. I got that ‘Don’t Tread On Me’ flag on my truck and all, but I can’t remember who that’s talking about either
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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9,586
I have to wonder if the victims were white, because they are making a huge deal about this.
why?

any place i have lived the news generally makes a big deal out of someone getting shot....no matter the color.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
18,975
9,637
AK
They were white. It was a fairly high-affluent area in the city. I don’t think a couple colored people getting shot in some neighborhood would have generated the non-stop coverage.
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
40,575
9,586
They were white. It was a fairly high-affluent area in the city. I don’t think a couple colored people getting shot in some neighborhood would have generated the non-stop coverage.
a hispanic and a honky got their guns and killed another honky.....
 

rockofullr

confused
Jun 11, 2009
7,342
924
East Bay, Cali
Someone was gonna shoot up the school down the street from my office! I could have been a crisis actor!!

http://abc7news.com/report-student-planned-columbine-20-at-school-in-san-ramon/3548182/

A new report says a student in San Ramon was planning to commit what he called "Columbine 2.0" at California High School, but wanted his to be deadlier.

According to our media partner the San Jose Mercury News, a police report says officers searched the kid's home and found a tactical vest, camouflage helmet, a toy shotgun, handwritten notes and digital data.
Although...... the fact that he had no guns makes me think this was not a huge threat.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
9,319
5,074
Ottawa, Canada
waiting for gun violence to disappear from movies/television by morally superior actors who love to protest in 3, 2, 1.....
that's such utter bullshit. The rest of the world watches the same tv shows and movies, and has access to the same video games (and porn). The only country where it's a problem?! You figure it out.
generation x parents suck.
bullshit.
why solve something that you can exploit for votes....
if you're insinuating the Dems exploit gun control for votes, tell me again how that worked out for them?! But maybe you're on to something. Maybe this is why you don't have a Yuge Wall(tm) yet... Or a Mooslim Ban either.
 

eric strt6

Resident Curmudgeon
Sep 8, 2001
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13,564
directly above the center of the earth

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
18,975
9,637
AK
Watch till the end to see how stupid our elected officials really are.

 
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pnj

Turbo Monkey till the fat lady sings
Aug 14, 2002
4,696
40
seattle
I've been waiting for that one to happen. Was just a mater of time..

Nothing but LOL's over here.
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
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19,446
Canaderp
I don't usually get involved in this stuff, because I find it all silly. But this, this is just silly...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/26/americas/toronto-handgun-sale-ban-proposal/index.html

Of all the shootings thing year, I wonder how many were with legally purchased hand guns? Banning gun and ammunition sales in the city sounds like a pretty big waste of time. And I mean, then what, just travel 40 minutes out of the city into the boonies and get one there??
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
18,975
9,637
AK
I don't usually get involved in this stuff, because I find it all silly. But this, this is just silly...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/26/americas/toronto-handgun-sale-ban-proposal/index.html

Of all the shootings thing year, I wonder how many were with legally purchased hand guns? Banning gun and ammunition sales in the city sounds like a pretty big waste of time. And I mean, then what, just travel 40 minutes out of the city into the boonies and get one there??
I’d say a majority of handguns used in killings are legally purchased...they may not be legal at the time of the shootings, but how did they get into circulation? Someone gave it away, sold it, let it get stolen, etc. This is exactly how the US has gotten flooded with guns.
 
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canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
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Canaderp
I’d say a majority of handguns used in killings are legally purchased...they may not be legal at the time of the shootings, but how did they get into circulation? Someone gave it away, sold it, let it get stolen, etc. This is exactly how the US has gotten flooded with guns.
Making them illegal to purchase in one city won't exactly solve anything though..

Ban them in one spot and they'll just come from another.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
18,975
9,637
AK
Making them illegal to purchase in one city won't exactly solve anything though..

Ban them in one spot and they'll just come from another.
Not a reason to do nothing. Again, those are the same arguments people give that we should "do nothing" in the US. You like school shootings?

There is no such thing as a "law abiding gun owner". Ever gun owner I know chooses certain laws to obey and others that they discard. A "law abiding gun owner" is like a "True Scotsman", it doesn't exist. I'm all for gun ownership IF we make the requirements realistic, testing, licensing, controls in the system that help to ensure that people that own guns will do so responsibly. Right now, it's fuck-all give-away-guns-in-drawings (I shit you not). I don't trust the guy down the street with a gun any more than I trust him with my credit card number.
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
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Canaderp
Not a reason to do nothing. Again, those are the same arguments people give that we should "do nothing" in the US. You like school shootings?

There is no such thing as a "law abiding gun owner". Ever gun owner I know chooses certain laws to obey and others that they discard. A "law abiding gun owner" is like a "True Scotsman", it doesn't exist. I'm all for gun ownership IF we make the requirements realistic, testing, licensing, controls in the system that help to ensure that people that own guns will do so responsibly. Right now, it's fuck-all give-away-guns-in-drawings (I shit you not). I don't trust the guy down the street with a gun any more than I trust him with my credit card number.
Of course I'm not saying to do nothing, that is asinine. Something needs to be done, but a knee jerk reaction to an event or a series of events won't solve things in the long run. Banning the legal sale of guns in a city will do nothing to stop guns from coming into the city, when you could buy them literally anywhere else in the province.

I am with you, the requirements for owning or purchasing firearms need to be strict. And the consequences if you fuckup or if your firearm ends up being used in a crime need to be much stricter. I don't care, build more jails for those asshats if we currently cannot handle them all.

My view might be slightly skewed as a Canadian, which I can understand. We don't have the same level of problem as you guys have. But no doubt, it still exists. Look up the history of Canada's gun registry and what it did. Quebec has their own now.

As for there be no "law abiding gun owners", I'm not sure about that. Perhaps if you include things such as speeding or something similar. All of the people I know who own any sort of firearm all follow the appropriate firearm laws. Including keeping them locked and secure, keeping ammunition separate and locked, transportation laws, registration rules if there are any, where and when you can use them etc etc. I would expect serious consequences for any of them, if they didn't follow the law.

For the record, I don't own and guns and will never own any guns.