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Agreed. The only thing that is as effective as sex for marketing purposes is fear. And the NRA does a great job of using it to their advantage.
Don't you be talkin bad about the NRA!! They've helped me form my well regulated militia for years! All those pamphlets, internet guides, public regulated militia outreach programs.......They're really the only thing keeping the 2nd amendment alive in this country.
 

JohnE

filthy rascist
May 13, 2005
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Front Range, dude...
and your point is? is being in the military some sort of requirement for his position?
No, obviously it is not. But you dont find it interesting, ironic or sickening that the guy who says "You can take my assault rifle over my dead body!" weaseled out of his big chance to carry and use one? And get paid for it? If I have to explain the irony behind the chicken hawk mentality you are beyond help...

The crazy is strong down at the NRA headshed. Check out the enemies list...

http://nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=15
 
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$tinkle

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Spoken like a man who's never running for office again.
don't bet on it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche_U.S._Presidential_campaigns

their similarities are rather notable

what were we talking about? oh yeah: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/04/obama-to-appeal-to-public-law-enforcement-for-support-on-new-gun-control-laws/ [tl;dr - NRA living out "perfect is the enemy of good"]

so now obama appears to be the only adult in the room. brilliant.
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.
Another good freedom loving american on teh loose.

He ominously added: “The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC [tactical] alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR [intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance] is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey.”

Dorner adds that he owns a high powered Barrett .50-caliber guns and SA-7 Manpads, a portable anti-aircraft weapon. The search is still underway.
 
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JohnE

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Front Range, dude...
Asymetrical warfare is simply the latest greatest term for unconventional warfare, one side has numerical and logistical superiority, the other is forced to use unconventional tactics to be succesful.

The Army definition- "Asymmetric warfare is the application of dissimilar strategies, tactics, capabilities and approaches used to circumvent or negate an opponent’s strengths while exploiting his weaknesses..."

I have never used the term unconventional twice in a post before. Make that 3 times...
 
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Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
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Riding the baggage carousel.
The US government of, uh, the United States.
do you think the natives recognized the US government as their government?

tl:dr - It's a fine line between patriot and terrorist.
The only difference between patriotism and treason is timing.

Edit: Yee gads, someone has definitely slipped a gear. How well do you think Daryl Gates and Mark Fuhrman are gonna sleep tonight? Or any of the redacted officers? :tinfoil:
 
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Westy

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Ooh you must mean these states?
Fun facts:

Mohawk confederacy (north east green) Had a government that highlighted individual freedoms and had a representative democracy (albeit by unanimous vote and not majority). Many feel that these ideals contributed to the revolt over british rule and are reflected in our constitution.

The Mississippian tribes (yellow) kept prisoners of war in lifelong forced slavery which helped spawn a slavery based economy in the south. Indian based slavery only turned to sources across the Atlantic when disease and warfare reduced the supply, not to mention being native to the area captives were able to escape with relative ease and had a penchant for killing their captors. The border between the yellow and green areas roughly reflect that of the mason-dixon line and pro/anti slavery states before the civil war.
 

boostindoubles

Nacho Libre
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Sorry for the large copy/paste but this fits in here

I find these two events strange... Both are prominent advocates for gun rights and vocal - one has a top ten youtube channel about guns - other is known for his finely crafted combat rifles...

John Noveske of Noveske Rifleworks killed in single car accident - 1/4/13

Keith Ratliff of FPSRussia (youtube) found with hands bound and bullet it brain - 1/3/13



This is the last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was 'killed':

Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...")

Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."

Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.

Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....

What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az

What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado

What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or

What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven't heard about being on drugs of some kind.
 
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boostindoubles

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Hey I think its strange those two vocal and popular gun rights advocates were both killed within a day of each other - on opposite sides of the country.

That knarly cut n paste was the last statement the combat rifle manufacturer made on his FB account before he died.

I'm just sharing the crazy - not trying to 'say' anything.

Personally, I think guns don't kill people - people kill people with guns. Guns are a right and if society wasn't so feckered up there could be guns in every home and no homicides.
 

DaveW

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JohnE

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Front Range, dude...
The human race is doomed to implode, caused by the weight of its own hubris. I told a Christian friend of mine that if I were the Christ, there is no way I would return to this ****ed up mess of a planet and this species. I would say "Look, Dad, remember how they treated me last time? It hasnt got any better, lets just start anew..."
 

Jm_

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The human race is doomed to implode, caused by the weight of its own hubris. I told a Christian friend of mine that if I were the Christ, there is no way I would return to this ****ed up mess of a planet and this species. I would say "Look, Dad, remember how they treated me last time? It hasnt got any better, lets just start anew..."
Well, if you were christ, you could just snap your fingers and fix everything!
 

syadasti

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Don't you be talkin bad about the NRA!! They've helped me form my well regulated militia for years! All those pamphlets, internet guides, public regulated militia outreach programs.......They're really the only thing keeping the 2nd amendment alive in this country.
One of NRA's real legacies is one of the most counterproductive examples of corporate welfare. This is not an industry we should be competing with China on but thanks to the NRA, at the taxpayer's expense, we are...

The number of people serving time in state or federal prisons increased 100 percent between 1990 and 2005. But California and Texas, the two states where the NRA had expended the most capital, were the most striking examples. The Golden State's three-strikes law differed from most of the other 29 in that it applied to an exceedingly broad definition of what amounted to a "strike." Under its guidelines, nonviolent crimes—including, in one famous case, the filching of a slice of pizza—were enough to put someone behind bars for life.

"There's actual real-life academics who have studied this stuff, and there's actually no evidence whatsoever it's had an impact," says Marc Mauer, executive director of the Sentencing Project, a criminal justice nonprofit.

But mandatory life sentences ensure that thousands of inmates will grow old behind bars, which is rather expensive. Senior-citizen inmates cost the state about twice as much per year (approximately $68,000) than their younger counterparts, due to health care expenses—even as those inmates become increasingly less likely to commit crimes should they be released.

The prisons became simultaneously more crowded and more expensive to maintain. Writing for the majority in 2011, Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy noted that inmates in California were forced to live in "telephone-booth-sized cages without toilets," and often went more than a year without receiving medical attention. The state's corrections system, Kennedy argued, was "incompatible with the concept of human dignity and has no place in civilized society."

The consequence of California's reforms is that Texas now leads the nation in incarceration, with 154,000 people behind bars—more prisoners per capita than all but three countries. The construction boom addressed what criminal-justice watchdogs considered to be a serious problem: Violent felons were being released before they were even eligible for parole because there simply wasn't any room. But CrimeStrike and its allies did nothing to curb the underlying problem—a sentencing system that locked people up for the smallest of crimes, kept them there for a while, and openly mocked efforts to keep them from coming back.

All that's left of the NRA's prison-building arm 20 years later is a television show by the same name. Hosted by LaPierre, Crime Strike features weekly reenactments of gun owners defending their turf, with the mantra: "Take aim and fight back." But the program's legacy lives on in concrete ways.

Prisons "cost $3.3 billion a year in Texas alone," Deitch says. "Around the country it adds up to about $52 billion a year. It's just a phenomenal cost, and what social cost is this causing?"


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