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Gun Control
You should also be allowed to crash your car through the front window of that bar because cars and guns are the same.
How do you spot a 'Murican?
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Pffftt... The NRA already is an extremist organization, no need to worry about being confused for one.
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This is mostly aimed at Dirt but its also some general ramblings mixed in
Gun owner here, Ive got a Sig P226 with 3, 15 round mags. I dont have my concealed carry license, its for home protection only. I shoot at least 200 rounds monthly to stay proficient, and do dry fire drills weekly.
If the military and law enforcement mandate weeks of training before their members are issued and allowed to carry a firearm as part of their job, why is the same not true for civilians? Why in the world would we trust some dumbass untrained civilian with a weapon very similar to what is issued to our military? Ive lost count the FB pictures Ive seen where dumbass gun owners have their pic taken with a FINGER ON THE FING TRIGGER!!! WTF!!!! These people have zero trigger discipline, why in GODs NAME would we trust people like that with AR/AK/SKSs and the like????
The idea that its easier to purchase an AR/AK/SKS at a gun show than it is to purchase a car is ludicrous. The 2nd Amendment doesnt mandate it should be easy to acquire a firearm. As much as Id love a nice full quad railed 14.5 middy Bravo Company AR or a HK MR223 and go out and play DEVGRU in an abandoned field somewhere in north central Arkansas, its not going to happen, and it shouldnt happen and that is NOT an infringement on my 2nd Amendment rights. I have the right to protect myself and my family, which I can do quite effectively with my 226, if I need more oomph Ill spring for a Remington 870. Thats more than enough to protect my family in the event something Katrina like happens here in central Arkansas.
AR/AK/SKSs and the like should either be ridiculously difficult to own/purchase or banned altogether. If youre a law abiding citizen then you have nothing to hide, if you want one of these go through a LONG detailed background check (including checking for any mental illness issues) and mandatory training. Dont give me the its my right to protect myself/family/home because if you NEED one of those you a) have ZERO clue about CQB b)are a horrible marksman with a pistol c) youre compensating for something. If its the middle of the night and my front door is bashed in by badguys Id much rather have a suppressed Mk25 with a Surefire light than an AR any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Your argument FOR AR/AK/SKSs and the like is invalid, period. No one (or very few, they are not optimum) hunts with those, they are designed to kill people and they are not optimum for home defense.....so there's no legitimate NEED for that sort of weapon. Youre right to own those doesnt not trump my childrens right to live, or anyones right to live.
Gun owner here, Ive got a Sig P226 with 3, 15 round mags. I dont have my concealed carry license, its for home protection only. I shoot at least 200 rounds monthly to stay proficient, and do dry fire drills weekly.
If the military and law enforcement mandate weeks of training before their members are issued and allowed to carry a firearm as part of their job, why is the same not true for civilians? Why in the world would we trust some dumbass untrained civilian with a weapon very similar to what is issued to our military? Ive lost count the FB pictures Ive seen where dumbass gun owners have their pic taken with a FINGER ON THE FING TRIGGER!!! WTF!!!! These people have zero trigger discipline, why in GODs NAME would we trust people like that with AR/AK/SKSs and the like????
The idea that its easier to purchase an AR/AK/SKS at a gun show than it is to purchase a car is ludicrous. The 2nd Amendment doesnt mandate it should be easy to acquire a firearm. As much as Id love a nice full quad railed 14.5 middy Bravo Company AR or a HK MR223 and go out and play DEVGRU in an abandoned field somewhere in north central Arkansas, its not going to happen, and it shouldnt happen and that is NOT an infringement on my 2nd Amendment rights. I have the right to protect myself and my family, which I can do quite effectively with my 226, if I need more oomph Ill spring for a Remington 870. Thats more than enough to protect my family in the event something Katrina like happens here in central Arkansas.
AR/AK/SKSs and the like should either be ridiculously difficult to own/purchase or banned altogether. If youre a law abiding citizen then you have nothing to hide, if you want one of these go through a LONG detailed background check (including checking for any mental illness issues) and mandatory training. Dont give me the its my right to protect myself/family/home because if you NEED one of those you a) have ZERO clue about CQB b)are a horrible marksman with a pistol c) youre compensating for something. If its the middle of the night and my front door is bashed in by badguys Id much rather have a suppressed Mk25 with a Surefire light than an AR any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Your argument FOR AR/AK/SKSs and the like is invalid, period. No one (or very few, they are not optimum) hunts with those, they are designed to kill people and they are not optimum for home defense.....so there's no legitimate NEED for that sort of weapon. Youre right to own those doesnt not trump my childrens right to live, or anyones right to live.
When guys who are too scared to ride bikes well started buying guns to compensate and started posting here?
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I'd say most of the assholes pulling off these type of acts are far too much of pussies to ever do anything that would require any sort of physical 'combat', even if it's just little kids they're attacking. They're self-pitying pussies to the core, and if it wasn't made so easy for them, they'd stay home and stick to video games and cutting themselves.
^You've met dirk I guess.
No, but I know the type.
Got a step-family member that reminds of the people pulling this kind of ****.
Would never step up to anybody where there's a chance of getting his ass kicked, but if it comes to those weaker than him, I don't trust him a bit. A couple years from now, he'll be able to buy whatever weapon he wants, and then the power is in his hands. We should all be thankful for people like Dirk, fighting to make it as easy as possible for unstable people to be able to do maximum damage just because they can't come to grips with their own paranoia. ****ing great. God forbid we make anybody jump through some extra hoops to prove they can handle the responsibility. Just like tractor trailer drivers are held to a different licensing standard, and you can't drive a monster truck or dragster down Main St, so should weapons be treated. Need some over the top killing machine to make you feel tough? Prove you're responsible enough to own one. Otherwise, you'll have to make due with something reasonable.
Got a step-family member that reminds of the people pulling this kind of ****.
Would never step up to anybody where there's a chance of getting his ass kicked, but if it comes to those weaker than him, I don't trust him a bit. A couple years from now, he'll be able to buy whatever weapon he wants, and then the power is in his hands. We should all be thankful for people like Dirk, fighting to make it as easy as possible for unstable people to be able to do maximum damage just because they can't come to grips with their own paranoia. ****ing great. God forbid we make anybody jump through some extra hoops to prove they can handle the responsibility. Just like tractor trailer drivers are held to a different licensing standard, and you can't drive a monster truck or dragster down Main St, so should weapons be treated. Need some over the top killing machine to make you feel tough? Prove you're responsible enough to own one. Otherwise, you'll have to make due with something reasonable.
The election of O'Bummer has been very kind to the gun industry, eh? It's one big harvest of paranoia.
is that an inverted 1050 of an english sentence?
It seems to me, in light of the recent events, that if you still cling to the selfish notion that you have the right to own military grade assault weapons that you view that right as more important than the right to live.
There have been a number of posts lately discussing the issue of mental health in this country, which is a good thing. But what about the mental well being of those who rush to the gun store to purchase the exact model rifle that was used two days prior to murder 20 children ?
There have been a number of posts lately discussing the issue of mental health in this country, which is a good thing. But what about the mental well being of those who rush to the gun store to purchase the exact model rifle that was used two days prior to murder 20 children ?
Well, just when you thought the GOP couldn't get any more nutty:
Apparently they have not considered the affects of having children grow up in an environment that is ruled by fear. Unfvcking real...
They want the US to be like Israel. All guns and checkpoints and suspicion.
Israel has more gun control than the US:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/mythbusting-israel-and-switzerland-are-not-gun-toting-utopias/
But once you do get set up, you can legally carry a weapon in any public place. Heck, you can conceal it, no special permit required.
Anarchy...law abiding citizens carrying guns around.
Check the statistics of crime in concealed carry states versus those that don't.
Gun control only works for dictators.
Check the statistics of crime in concealed carry states versus those that don't.
Gun control only works for dictators.
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Thanks for asking, gun control is working:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-geography-of-gun-deaths/69354/
Gun control great works for the entire civilized industrialized world. Every single OECD country in the world other than the US, Mexico, and Estonia have magnitudes less violent crime.
Thanks for helping make modern America more like a third world sh*thole...
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...and NRA platitudes work well for mouth breathers.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON that advocates "arming the teachers" should NEVER own a gun. Those are just the type of nut cases that we need to have systems to weed out. Yeah, every teacher needs to carry, then every mall-worker, and every pedestrian on the sidewalk, and everyone at sports event should be issued one when they walk in. Totally F-in ridiculous.
Of course, if some genius nuclear scientist ever figures out that you can shoot the teacher first, then they'll have access to at least an entire classroom of "killings".
Of course, if some genius nuclear scientist ever figures out that you can shoot the teacher first, then they'll have access to at least an entire classroom of "killings".
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So who is going to pay for arming, equiping and training all these teachers? Not to mention the recurring training neccesary to maintain proficiency. And all that overtime at the range...
As a first responder, the last thing I want to do is respond to a gunfight between 2 parties...my first instinct is to sit back and let them shoot it out, then apprehend the winner.
Turning our schools into armed camps is the wrong answer. Why not start with a concerted effort to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies?
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This. This is also how it works in Yurp. If you feel like you need to protect your family and you have to have a gun for it you will get it. It just won't come with a happy meal. I'm with you on this 100%. I like guns but let's be reasonable about them.
@Slope - never knew all those euro countries where I feel much safer than on any of my US trips are dictatorships.
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I was reading a thread on the CT killings on another forum, and a knuckle-dragger in there is insisting that he must own firearms because police occasionally make mistakes on "no-knock" warrants and enter the wrong house. Some comment was made about the killing of dogs, too.
He stated that if the police did that to his house, it might be the last mistake they made, and that he was fully aware he'd die in the process and was okay with that. This is why weapons should be legal and easy to obtain, and he believes we should have access to everything that you can afford: tanks, machine guns, whatever.
Let me re-iterate: he'd rather kill multiple police officers whose boss made a mistake and be shot in return, than surrender and work things out within the legal system.
Gosh, sir, you are a shining beacon for your cause.
He stated that if the police did that to his house, it might be the last mistake they made, and that he was fully aware he'd die in the process and was okay with that. This is why weapons should be legal and easy to obtain, and he believes we should have access to everything that you can afford: tanks, machine guns, whatever.
Let me re-iterate: he'd rather kill multiple police officers whose boss made a mistake and be shot in return, than surrender and work things out within the legal system.
Gosh, sir, you are a shining beacon for your cause.
Was this a Monkey?
No, no... another forum site entirely.
I think it's much more likely that he's just another typical gun-nut blowhard and he'll do exactly what the cops tell him to do. And maybe pee himself a little. Then he'll spend the rest of his days embellishing the story in front of the other constitutional scholars and wanna-be civil warriors down at the local sportsman's club.
Which makes me wonder - how come these guys haven't made good on all their 'civil war' bull****ting over the fact that they can't have full auto weapons? Where in the Constitution is that 'right' denied to them? Shouldn't they be jumping off of their bar stools and engaging the enemy somewhere?
Can the US government extradite the whole civil war gun nut movement to Quebec. The frenchies there also want their own country, no one wants them and they are also special beings. They would get together nicely and maybe they'd nominate Terry Crews to be their president (I like him so I hope he declines) and water the fields with a mix of wine and moonshine.
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Oh thank you very nice.
I do not possess the rep capacity..........
head of nail, meet hammer
Some of my best friends fit this description perfectly, so I've had years of practice heckling them about it. They love to blah blah blah all the same BS back and forth between each other, but none of them are going to do jack **** when it comes down to it. They're nothing but ****ing hobbyists no matter what they pretend to be with their buddies on Saturdays, just like nearly ever other 'assault weapon' owner, and it takes a whole 'nother level of idiot to actually shed blood over a hobby.
I still ride bikes. Just not in the summer in AZ. I do fear death by dehydration. Though I hear the hallucinations are not to be missed in that process.
Actually in the Constitution they are treated as equals as they're both choices. You chose to reproduce. Others choose to own weapons. In the Constitution, and this has been upheld in the courts, if its an item of choice than all items are equal under the law.
There is nothing in the Constitution about making it easy to obtain firearms. Being able to go to a gun show and by an AR/AK/SKS with ZERO background check and training is irresponsible and that's putting it lightly. One can go to a gun show and walk out with an AR, multiple 30rd mags and be batsh!t crazy in less than a half an hour. Hell I can't even buy a car from a dealer that quick, even if I threw down cash.
So much idiocy, so little time...if the frothers really want guns, I have recruiter friends I can hook them all up with. I cna get you all the guns you want. Only we have to follow range safety rules, be trained and show proficiency in order to carry weapons.
Sounds like your rights are being infringed upon.
Follow rules and show proficiency?
Sounds un American to me.
Sounds un American to me.
...much about the US military is un 'murikan...you should hear people freak when I explain how our medical care is essentially Socialized medicine...or ask them just whos freedom they think they are protecting. Its interesting being a Liberal in a world of Conservatives and those who dont have enough brains to take a position one way or another...
Equal under the constitution, equal under the law but not equal under common sense.
Massive numbers of high powered weapons placed in the hands of an uneducated citizenry is fvcking stupid. Many, MANY people in the USA are FVCKING DUMB. Dumb people do not have the right to destroy the lives of others.