[narlus]

hey, can any of you overseas types (vb, fluff, changleen, etc) access bush's website? i started up DC++ this morning and had this pop-up window from the programmer:

interesting...

It is of course interesting that www.georgewbush.com is not accessible from outside america (europe at least) , but then again freedom of information has never been on bush's agenda...i'm not very surprised though, that's what religious fanatics usually do when pressed...when they're not busy blowing up buildings in afghanistan, iraq, or new york. Use http://proxy.guardster.com/cgi-bin/nph-proxy.cgi/010100A/68747402f7777772e67656f72676577627573682e636f6d2f to access it instead, and watch him scare americans into voting for him using the very same terrorist threats that he can't handle himself! www.johnkerry.com works as it should though. Yes, this is an annoying spam message that won't go away until the election is over or the site opens.

 

[valve bouncer]

No, got a 403 error message whatever that means. It's in Japanese.

 

[preppie]

No, got a 403 error message whatever that means. It's in Japanese.

Same here
I'm in Holland at the moment :

http://www.georgewbush.com ---->

You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied.

HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden
Internet Explorer

AND

http://www.johnkerry.com ---> works just fine, every single page.

 

[narlus]

nice. good one, republicans! you wankers.

 

[Motionboy2]

Wow... that is incredible!

 

[narlus]

i guess he doesn't care about the ex-pats who will be voting in the election.

 

[Motionboy2]

i guess he doesn't care.

I think that is more appropriate

 

[narlus]

buddies of mine in ireland (republicans, even) have also confirmed the IP blocking.

cheney or ashcroft is probably behind this somehow. i would LOVE to hear the reason behind this.

 

[I Are Baboon]

What the hell???

 

[Westy]

I bet they will give the same excuse that the DOD gave on why foreign IP's could not access their absentee voter pages: To prevent foreign hackers from accessing the servers.

The thing that gets me is that anyone smart enough to hack into a secure server is also capable of spoofing their IP so as a security measure it does nothing.

 

[zod]

Maybe those foreign countries are the ones doing the blocking and not the Bush people???

 

[zod]

Nevermind, a little blogging tells the story.........

 

[Dirt rider]

Canada , or at least my computor can get in.

 

[valve bouncer]

Maybe those foreign countries are the ones doing the blocking and not the Bush people???

Bwahahahahaha......good one....you are joking, aren't you?

 

[zod]

There was a (hinted)denial of service attack on their website, most likely it was/is organzied by hackers on IP ranges in Europe/Asia. Those IP ranges are likely blocked while their techs work around the issue despite what some anti-Bush papers are reporting as an isolationist stance.

 

[narlus]

so no one would attack the site from the US?

this is bush's strategy. mirrored in his foreign policy strategy too.

 

[narlus]

more info:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3958665.stm

 

[Motionboy2]

Mike Prettejohn, president of Netcraft, speculated that the blocking decision might have been taken to cut costs, and traffic, in the run-up to the election on 2 November.

Yeah, you know how those Bush/Cheney guys don't have enough money to run a web site for 2 more weeks

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

I get this. 403. not authorized.


No está autorizado a ver esta página
Puede que no tenga permiso para ver este directorio o página con las credenciales proporcionadas.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Si cree que debería poder ver esta página o directorio, intente ponerse en contacto con el sitio Web en cualquier dirección electrónica o número de teléfono que aparezca en la página principal de www.georgewbush.com.

Puede hacer clic en Búsqueda para buscar información en Internet.


HTTP Error 403 - Prohibido
Internet Explorer

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

Maybe those foreign countries are the ones doing the blocking and not the Bush people???

hahahahahaha! yeah right. and republicans dont like the idea of conspiracies. btw, that hacking-fear stuff is way overrated.

i can access the page from a proxy server, and if i was a hacker i could hack it thru a proxy probably.
or if i was very into it, i could have somebody within the states hack it.

 

[zod]

so no one would attack the site from the US?

Sure someone could attack from within the US, what I am saying is that if the IP ranges of a mass attack were within certain countries then those would be the ones to do a temp range block on. Looks for sure that South America, parts of Asia, and Europe are currently blocked but Canada is not. What's the word from Aussie Land????

 

[zod]

i can access the page from a proxy server, and if i was a hacker i could hack it thru a proxy probably.
or if i was very into it, i could have somebody within the states hack it.

I don't think you could do a denial of service attack very effeciently thru a proxy server in another country, especially not a public proxy. You could however have someone within the US do it however denial of service is an attack that is done by many, it's a coordinated attack. Even if some of it did come from within the US the President is not going to block his site from his most important audience.

 

[DRB]

And all of this matters Why?

 

[narlus]

it just goes to show the mentality of the people running the show.

 

[Westy]

And all of this matters Why?

The thousands of overseas workers, military families, ex-pats, etc..

 

[BurlyShirley]

GWB HIMSELF of course asked for all of this because he HATES other countries.

 

[zod]

That's why I am voting for him, I hate other countries as well.....

 

[Westy]

GWB HIMSELF of course asked for all of this because he HATES other countries.

Smart move, write in votes could make the difference in some swing states.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Smart move, write in votes could make the difference in some swing states.

Given the number of military overseas who would no doubt overwhelmingly vote Bush rather than Kerry, I dont buy that idea.

 

[Westy]

Given the number of military overseas who would no doubt overwhelmingly vote Bush rather than Kerry, I dont buy that idea.

The majority of absentee ballots are no doubt military and pro Bush, but in a state like New Mex. that was won last year by only a few hundred could have easily been won or lost by normal folks living and working overseas.

 

[BurlyShirley]

The majority of absentee ballots are no doubt military and pro Bush, but in a state like New Mex. that was won last year by only a few hundred could have easily been won or lost by normal folks living and working overseas.

Right but Id still bet there are more military people from new Mex overseas than civilians.

 

[Westy]

Right but Id still bet there are more military people from new Mex overseas than civilians.

Yes I know, but there are probably more than 300 non military people who will vote from NM that are only exposed to "liberal" foreign press, you think that Bush would want to have some sort of access to them.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Yes I know, but there are probably more than 300 non military people who will vote from NM that are only exposed to "liberal" foreign press, you think that Bush would want to have some sort of access to them.

Oh, ok. I get what you're saying. That the military are already going to vote for him so they dont need access to his site.

But that raises a question. How does not showing his site stop people from voting against him? If all they'd seen is anti-bush media, you'd think he want them to see his own, self-pomoting site, rather than having nothing to counter the negativity.

 

[Changleen]

No, I can't hit it.

 

[Changleen]

Didn't you guys see that story about the Online registration to vote oversees being blocked oversees too?

Look, it's pretty simple. The Republicunts said they were scared of hacking. This is obviously BS as has been pointed out above. In reality we know that 80%+ of ex-pats (not including military) will clearly vote democrat. Hence, first chance they can, block them from registering. The GW official site is blocked too to make it look more authentic.

So, You can't vote if you've got a criminal record, if you're black, if you've been oversees....You can't be voted for if you're independant in most states... Pretty soon being a democrat maybe a good enough reason to stop your vote counting.

YAY DEMOCRACY! The US sucks at it.

 

[Westy]

But that raises a question. How does not showing his site stop people from voting against him? If all they'd seen is anti-bush media, you'd think he want them to see his own, self-pomoting site, rather than having nothing to counter the negativity.

That was my whole point about 5 posts ago. I was being sarcastic, I guess you did not pick up on it.

 

[zod]

 

[BurlyShirley]

That was my whole point about 5 posts ago. I was being sarcastic, I guess you did not pick up on it.

Oh ****. Im stupid. You know better than to go acting clever around me

 

[Westy]

Oh ****. Im stupid. You know better than to go acting clever around me

RM just needs a sarcastic font.

 

[narlus]

The majority of absentee ballots are no doubt military and pro Bush, but in a state like New Mex. that was won last year by only a few hundred could have easily been won or lost by normal folks living and working overseas.

actually according to what i just read, this is false. there are anywhere from 3.5 to 7 million ex-pats living abroad, and only 0.5 million are military. so that's 20% at it's most optimistic.

the write-in votes can and will matter.