That is really hard to do with Austrian Techno blasting in the background while ripping lines of coke.
Hardline Wales 2024
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That is really hard to do with Austrian Techno blasting in the background while ripping lines of coke.
No, 1 bike and. 2nd guy on a shotgun seat...One cool stunt would be to have two riders do it at once and then switch bikes mid-jump.
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Andi Kolb was invited 2022 and stepped down after seeing the big jumps that were first ridden in that year. He said his race results are more important to him than the short Hardline fame. 2023 has been his best season to date. Ironically he hurt himself in a relatively harmless looking incident in the off season this year in NZ.
So the guys who test shouldn't be allowed to race?
Props to Kerr for Guinea-pigging that thing. Has to be the GOAT Free-racer at this point.
SuperDave Osborne!
Appears that the gap has been removed.
Source? All I've seen so far is the same rumor.
Pinkbike made a social media post and I saw another site too, but do not remember. Looks to be speculation at this point. I could see it gone for this year though..
Singletracks and OTB were the sources cited on vital.
So now they have to ride down the bank of the ravine and then hike-a- bike back up the other side?
Good. Downhill racing and freeride/Rampage/evel Knievel stuff are two different disciplines, which is fine.
Just because Redbull sponsors a bunch of freeride athletes doesn't mean their needs should be catered to in a race format, in my opinion. Freeracing never was and still isn't a real thing beyond a novel marketing buzzword... Fairclough looking smooth and stylish while losing races didn't require a whole new racing format to be created.
I'd much rather see fresh and difficult natural race tracks with multiple line options, not single line wooden canyon jumps and straight MX rhythm sections.
Just because Redbull sponsors a bunch of freeride athletes doesn't mean their needs should be catered to in a race format, in my opinion. Freeracing never was and still isn't a real thing beyond a novel marketing buzzword... Fairclough looking smooth and stylish while losing races didn't require a whole new racing format to be created.
I'd much rather see fresh and difficult natural race tracks with multiple line options, not single line wooden canyon jumps and straight MX rhythm sections.
I dunno, organizers are free to create whatever event they want, and riders are free to compete or not. Organizers should listen to riders when it comes to the safety/stupidity of certain features regardless (as apparently happened with the canyon gapper here), but still, I don't think every event needs to fit so neatly into an established category. In fact I think Hardline is cool precisely because it takes a mix of skills you don't see in other events.
It gets complicated the more risky your "organized" event is IMO. Red-bull fueled kids 18-25 don't have fully developed brains and with group think and all that, they aren't going to make the best decisions. No matter how many waivers they sign, there is still some liability on the side of the organizer. Obviously we expect the participants to have an extraordinary amount of skill and ability...but at the same time, it's not reasonable to expect them to perform feats that are not within their capabilities or those that will have so much risk associated that the chances of serious injury are high. In other words, we expect their abilities and skills to allow them a reasonable chance/outcome of pulling it off safely. If the conditions do not allow for that...that brings liability on the organizer. That's the road you do down IMO if you want to use it for profit/promotion, etc.
100% this
This wood ramp evil kinevil stuff is ridiculous.
Its narly as hell but honestly evil kinevel jumped 100 ft gap in the 1960's. Its nothing new or exciting just unnecessary risk to the riders.
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i'm fine with this type of feature existing in an event like hardline. the issue - which the racers seemed to echo - is that it simply wasn't ready in time. it should have been finalized and tested long before the week leading up to the race.
Agreed. I'm not sure who came up with the idea, but isn't Dan Atherton one of the main guys? Sounds like riders were involved at least to some extent in the concept and design, and then riders decided it just wasn't working as executed (and couldn't be fixed in time), so it was nixed. If that's even close to what happened here, it's better than another report of riders being ignored from start to finish.
In Bernard's video, Gee or Dan made some comments where it sounded like some other guys were up there building the new part during the winter. So it probably wasn't even done by people who could ride it.
Also interesting that Gee said he wanted no net, while not being a rider this year.
Bernard needs to leave his dog at home while walking down cliffs. Jeez.
I think the feature and event is fine. As long as riders who get invited feel no obligation to actually ride it. It's their choice at the end of the day.
Also don't broadcast it live, which I don't think they do. Similar to Rampage. If something happens, I don't want to see it.
Also interesting that Gee said he wanted no net, while not being a rider this year.
Bernard needs to leave his dog at home while walking down cliffs. Jeez.
I think the feature and event is fine. As long as riders who get invited feel no obligation to actually ride it. It's their choice at the end of the day.
Also don't broadcast it live, which I don't think they do. Similar to Rampage. If something happens, I don't want to see it.
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Its progression. Has the human body progressed to trauma? No oh well fuck it. It will get clicks thats more important right. HARDLINE 2024…all thats born is born to die.
at least the mtb community collectively stopped bitching about warner bros discovery and the UCI for a week
That is dry Funny Shit Brother. I got good Laugh. I actually thought of them doing that.
Avy
Hope tahnee doesnt get any more commentary gigs, shes mono tone, boring, has very little insight and her voice goes right through you!
Word. His comparisons and hyperbole are -using his own words- "almost landing on a different continent".
In other words, I sincerely hope Red Bull grows Hardline into a successful world series. It has the potential to reach a much broader audience than UCI's paywalled junk.
Hardline's problem is that it just isn't competitive.
Perhaps if they can attract more than 2 top racers it would be more interesting, otherwise it feels more like some reunion tour.
I think the risk vs reward isn’t worth it to absolute nail yourself should it go wrong
Good point. Maybe something toned down a bit would be enough?
Kinda like an old-school DH track, before the bike park phase took over?
I don't mind some dirt sculpting if needed and a bit of woodwork if required to get to something really cool... I like the new top of the track, and the tech bit after the road gap best. Scale that down to only stupid from idiotic and you may have something.
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Just wondering with both out with flats, if both the Jones' brothers were on Goodyear?
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I don’t know about the tire?
My first thought is they need safety nets on a couple of those turns,it would be Death if they went over. It could happen.
The Track was Great. Nasty Steep Sharp Blind with nice Berms.
Great Race,Top 10 was just like UCI to me? Just Insane. Heart pumpin shit.
Avy
Mine too Avy. When Glencoe DH track here was first built it was a major step up in technicality to any other UK track. I was there for a few early dig/ride days in preparation for its use as a Scottish race venue. There was one sketchy kinda rough bermed corner that had the possibility of spitting a rider over and down a natural ravine/waterfall. I witnessed Rhuardh Cunningham come into it at warp speed but get bucked on the entrance and ultimately get him and his bike spat over the back. Luckily they didn't roll too far (death). But a fuck off rock came with him and pinned his bike to the hill. Subsequently that corner got a wooden barrier built around it.
To this day not too many people ride that track. Especially since they built a far easier alternative.
Shoot me. But what WC racing needs is genuinely technical slower speed sections (think the Leogang section Reece skooled everyone on) Rather than one line death to one side shit! and fest sized rhythm sections or Rampage size gaps. Those actually dilute the "racing"