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Hayes HFX problem/question.....need advice

Spunger

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Feb 19, 2003
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Hey guys,

I have an older set of Hayes HFX-Mag brakes (the G1 caliper design). After time and time again of messing with this 1 brake, it's driving me nuts.

I changed my tires today, so I put the bike upside down. Well......when putting it back side up, the rear brake lever went to the bars, I pumped it, and eventually got a regular lever back. I thought there was air in the lines (so I bled the system) and got some out. Right now the bike is upside down to see how it acts in a day or 2 being that way.

The history on this rear brake is I at one point with 6" rotors either boiled the fluid or royally messed something up. I took a long decent, hit the breaks, and the lever got so hard I couldn't squeeze it. It was like it had been stuck in open mode. After letting things cool down everything seemed to be working fine. I then found that my pistons were damaged so I replaced them, along with new o-rings and a new transfer port o-ring. I bled the system with new DOT3 fluid, new pads etc.....and got some power back, but still didn't feel like it should. I have another set of Mag's on my DH bike that were brand new and feel totally different (as far as rear's go). I do have a spare set of Hayes levers/calipers/lines etc...so parts aren't a problem.

After riding outside after this last bleed it seemed like I had the power back I wanted. It's currently at a 8" rotor (because I thought it'd give me some more power) on a hard tail. I can now skid the tire (which I couldn't do before).

I'm just wondering.........if I bleed and bleed till no end and there still is air in the lines, and I know I am bleeding it right (per hayes instructions) are there any ideas or places to check to see where air would be entering the system? They've never been crashed on or anything, just that once where the fluid must have boiled. The line doesn't appear to have any leaks nor does the master cylinder or caliper so I'm stumped.
 

Quo Fan

don't make me kick your ass
When I bleed, after I determine that no more air is in the line, I close the port at the lever and give the bottle anther squeeze then I close the bleed valve on the caliper. This puts a little more fluid in the master cylinder.

Hope it helps.
 

Dartman

Old Bastard Mike
Feb 26, 2003
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I had found one set of HFX's (brand new) where the air was entering from the threads around the bleed fitting on the caliper. I was getting a steady stream of bubbles when drawing back on the syringe. A little teflon tape and it was good to go, though thread seal compound would be better. I didn't have any at the time.

Mike
 

Spunger

Git yer dumb questions here
Feb 19, 2003
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If when I go tip it upside down today and it is full of bubbles again, I'll have to do that to that bleeder. I don't see or feel any leaks so I'm stumped. I just know when I went to bleed it last night I had air bubbles coming out........which I had thought I had a good bleed.

It could be that lousy bleeder though. I think I wrapped teflon tape around it.......but I do have some thread seal compound I'll use instead.

I'll post back later and let you guys know :)
 

Spunger

Git yer dumb questions here
Feb 19, 2003
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Tilted the bike up, even squoze the lever while upside down, and it was still hard (like a decent bleed). So I guess that it's fine from what I can gather. I guess I'll go ride it and see how it acts.
 

freerider858

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Aug 14, 2005
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Instead of starting a new thread, I just wanted to ask if the bleeder cap on the caliper of my HFX 9 is an important part. It has disapeared from my rear brake and I dont want to mess anything up if I ride without the bleeder cap. Is there anyhting I could make easily at home to replace the part with? Sorry for jacking the thread
 

Dartman

Old Bastard Mike
Feb 26, 2003
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Richmond, VA
Instead of starting a new thread, I just wanted to ask if the bleeder cap on the caliper of my HFX 9 is an important part. It has disapeared from my rear brake and I dont want to mess anything up if I ride without the bleeder cap. Is there anyhting I could make easily at home to replace the part with? Sorry for jacking the thread
If you get dirt in the bleeder screw you may contaminate the system when you bleed them.