My parents were really anti-ACA because their cost went up. At least until they found out that I would not be able to get insurance coverage for my epilepsy without it. ~$15k/yr for drugs just to function as a normal person... They still say that I'm an outlier and that my coverage allows me to function to generate more than I cost, so it's fine. They didn't like it when I pointed out the cognitive dissonance to them.
Health Care Reform is Dead
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Tweet thread by a doctor that is really quite shocking.
https://twitter.com/hshanawaniMD/status/1121892356981252097
https://twitter.com/hshanawaniMD/status/1121892356981252097
Stop fearmongering about 'Medicare for All.' Most families would pay less for better care.
The case for Medicare for All is simple. It would cover everyone, period. Done right, it would lower costs. And it would ease paperwork and confusion.
www.usatoday.com
Obamacare Premiums to Fall and Number of Insurers to Rise Next Year (Published 2019)
Despite President Trump’s efforts to undermine the Affordable Care Act, premiums will fall for plans sold under the law, and the number of insurers offering policies will rise.
That may be Obama care, but our insurance just went up an additional $60 a month from last year in addition to our co-pay.Obamacare Premiums to Fall and Number of Insurers to Rise Next Year (Published 2019)
Despite President Trump’s efforts to undermine the Affordable Care Act, premiums will fall for plans sold under the law, and the number of insurers offering policies will rise.www.nytimes.com
mine went up last year too, and i have insurance through my employer
We go through my wife's company, so that helps quite a bit.
even employer health care can suck it sometimes... get this.... my wife and i work for different business units of the same parent company. same insurance plans available to both of us. it was cheaper for us to have individual plans than to have a family plan. and not by a small amount, something like 3 or 4 thousand a year.
Did your portion go up, the total premium, or both?
I've seen the total premium go up each year on my HDHP. But my employer changes their subsidy such that my pre-tax portion of the premium stays the same each month, at $19.
I still wonder where all the money comes from. Warren talks about taxing the 1% and raising corporate taxes. My guess would be, the day Warren gets elected, the 1%er's money exits the country. Then raising the corporate taxes will cause mass lay-offs. Saddling the burden on the middle class making in unaffordable. At least Sanders is open & up front saying, Yes..... Your taxes will go up. I don't see how it will work without bankrupting people. Maybe a flat rate tax of 35% across the board may work, but a lot of people could not afford it. Putting everyone back to square one.Stop fearmongering about 'Medicare for All.' Most families would pay less for better care.
The case for Medicare for All is simple. It would cover everyone, period. Done right, it would lower costs. And it would ease paperwork and confusion.www.usatoday.com
both. it wasn't a huge amount though. maybe 2 hundred for the year.
Enjoy Mexico. Make room for more pleasant types in California, will ya?
he's also assuming they still have money in domestic accounts in the first place.
Our premium went up (this year) and our co-pay went up $10 a visit last year, not sure yet this year. 20 years ago I have ACL surgery, it was no cost out of pocket. 6 years ago I had ACL surgery and it was $100 out of pocket. January 2018 I had elbow surgery and my co-pay jumped to $1900 out of pocket. My costs may reflect on where we live, but it really sucks.
I wish I was in the tax bracket, no such luck. Taxes here already are killing us!
Actually, Obamacare at work. Premiums jumped substantially for us ever since.
no, its just a convenient scapegoat.
Perhaps you're starting to see that healthcare is not a service that follows the normal rules of capitalism?
Because it FUCKING DOESN'T.
Much like fucking roads, fire and police service, national defense, municipal water delivery, the shit-pipes in most communities, and a myriad of other services, it DOESN'T FOLLOW THE NORMAL RULES OF CAPITALISM.
The wealthiest country in the HISTORY of the fucking PLANET, and there are still people asking, "where is the money going to come from?"
You do realize that fucking ITALY has universal healthcare, right? FUCKING ITALY. Just think about that.
Goddam! Conversations like this are sometime infuriating.
Oh, please enlighten us to your rough times, working-class dude.
Does it look something like this?
Tell me how you really feel.Conversations like this are sometime infuriating.
Not necessarily.
MA had an ACA type system before Obamacare.
This year I lost my primary physicians (as did all family members), increased premium, increased copays, increased deductibles.
I pay for our health coverage through a small business group. $1600/mo
I’d love to see healthcare costs drop.
Not interested in a plan that only lowers healthcare line item but ultimately results in less in pocket at end of year though.
Looking at you Liz.
Well to start, it would be nice making $350K, mortgage property taxes are close. We're paying $4+ for a gallon of gas, x 3 vehicles. Utilities average about $1200 a month. Son's college, Colorado State @ $45K a year. Plus I'm insuring 4 people & 3 cars. It's ugly what's left over, trust me.Oh, please enlighten us to your rough times, working-class dude.
Does it look something like this?
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Everything else aside, Next time you come through CO let me know. If you've got time let's meet up for a ride, ski or a burger and beer.
Did your 35% from the other thread include various and sundry non-Federal taxes then?
Pool? How do you manage to rack this up? Sweet baby jeebus.
is that you / your family / employees?
I like ignoring all those lines that relate to small expensive little people.Oh, please enlighten us to your rough times, working-class dude.
Does it look something like this?
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my total gas/electric burden was just under $1k last YEAR.
1,200' sq ft home, mild summer weather, most of the cost during winter months.
1,200' sq ft home, mild summer weather, most of the cost during winter months.
no gas here, but our electric is roughly $3k / yr, which is the highest its been, but it's up because my wife is home full time now with the kids. water/trash/sewer amount to maybe $1k a year.
My utilities run about $300/mo. That's for 3271 sq ft, with very tight temperature regulation of the house
due to wife + baby, a green lawn, and 2 electric cars sucking down juice.Brian must be running the heat non-stop in the servants' quarters or the like
Serously. $1200 a MONTH? PG&E really sticking it to ya? Or are there other expensive "utilities" that I'm missing that Californians suffer with? I don't think that my monthly utilities would even hit $250... and I'm not in some tiny, super-efficient house.
Fuck, man - you don't even have proper winters... WTF is going on with those utilities?
Fuck, man - you don't even have proper winters... WTF is going on with those utilities?
Let me guess - you're only making 1/4 million a year between you and the wife?
Family of 4
High deductible plan as well?
that's nuts. covering my whole family - at the more expensive family rate through my employer - would be well under $500/month.
Yeah - but how much is your employer picking up? 'Cause @dan-o is rolling his own, IIRC. And $1600/mo sounds about right if you're footing the whole premium...
offhand not sure but they do handle a pretty good portion of the premium. to be fair though, my company does employ just over 135k people in the US.