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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by iamjoel5, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. iamjoel5

    iamjoel5 Chimp

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    Whats up fellas,
    Well i took that good fall and broke my nose, more specifically ripped my septum pretty nicely. So i guess its about time to get one of those Full face helmets :) I was hoping I could come in here and ask some more experienced people on maybe some options of helmets they would recomend on price and quality and even style. i have viewed a couple i like, such as the specialized deviant and the 661 pro bravo carbon (07 model - only $140) but I do not know if these would be recommended or not. I would hate to buy one without an unbiased opinion.

    Any help and suggestions would be appriciated
    It also helps to know I live in Tx and it gets VERY hot, I'm sure this is a factor.

    thanks,
    Joel
     
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    fellow pinner Monkey

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    troylee d2, sixsixone strike, or evolution.
     
  3. Arkayne

    Arkayne I come bearing GIFs

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    I use a Gyro Remedy and THE Carbon helmet and the Gyro outbreathes it by far. That thing has tons of vents and you can't beat the price, especially if its on closeout.
     
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    CA_Descender Chimp

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    Find one that fits comfortable around the cranium and snug on the cheek bones. If wearing it for anything other then DH look for something with a few more vents so ya do not fry the brain to much.

    Cratoni
    Giro
    Fox
    Bell
    661
    TLD
    etc etc etc ...

    all make good helmets but they do fit differently so go try 'em on.
     
  5. ultraNoob

    ultraNoob Yoshinoya Destroyer

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    Tried the 661 Bravo and found that it was a bit constricting. Even though it fit well, I felt cramped in side because the nose guard was so close. I also found that larger goggles really didn't sit too well. Tried the Remedy. Although it fit well, I didn't get it because I looked like a bobble head with it on. T.H.E. industries 07 carbon series fit me well and is probably the best helmet I've ever tried on. It's easy to clean too.
     
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    bdamschen Turbo Monkey

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    Make sure it meets ASTM 1952 standards and you should be good to go. Lately I've had my eye on the 661 evolution
     
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    iamjoel5 Chimp

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    Thanks guys!

    great advice, the only thing is I hear that the carbon is 1. more likely to crack upon impact (not lasting as long) and 2. only typically about 150-200g difference, which is about .2-.3 of a pound.

    Has anyone tried the Specialized Deviant? What drew me to this was the great work of 21 vents! It gets sweltering here in Texas!

    Lastly, my budget is about $150 at most...being a college student I can't really take a dive into the best/top-end helmets, so that Troy Lee is definitely not an option, nor most Carbons

    Please remember, one of my main concerns is the heat, well vented is a must!

    thank you,
    Joel
     
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    iamjoel5 Chimp

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    Update^ being in Texas there is very little demand for Full face helmts so I lack the opportunity to go try on all sorts of helmets :(. The only store I found that carries helmets that had 3 styles (1 fox, 1 giro, and 1 something...all poor quality)...and that was it...

    So unfortunately I am not able to try on different types to see what fits best, I will be ordering from the internet
     
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    remedy pricepoint 89.00
     
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    iamjoel5 Chimp

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    That's a great price!!

    I need to ask though, has anyone tried to Specialized Deviant? The 21 vents is VERY appealing but if the Remedy is as good, then that seems like the obvious way to go. Am i misdirected with the Deviant, does specialized make a typically better helmet?
     
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    buildyourown Turbo Monkey

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    Buy one based on fit. Period. If you can't find one to try, at least try on the same brand of half shell.
    I ordered a 661 last year and promptly sold it cause it was just the wrong shape.
     
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    iamjoel5 Chimp

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    would love to, but as stated above there are no stores within 500 miles that carry full face
     
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    i just picked up a 661 Flight moto helmet..
    was concerned with the weight at first, but after a weekend at Northstar i concluded that it's the most comfortable helmet i've ever tried...

    Those new Evolution helmets look super nice too.. lighter than Flights and offer a great deal of protection for your dome and grill. I just prefer the feel and look of the Flight over the Evo, and don't really care about the weight difference.
     
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    I noticed the Evos were very under ventilated, I live in very hot weather so this is a huge factor, would you say the helmet is not fit for hot conditions because of this?
     
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    What kind of riding are you doing? Are you going to wear this for pedal/trail riding or just for DH riding (ie shuttle up, ride down). If you are shuttling, the venting will be less of an issue as you will remove the helmet often, and the speed/wind will cool you off.

    If you are using this for longer pedaling events.....go for the vents. I have not tried on the specialized helmet, but there were good reviews when it first came out. IIRC, it also meets the more stringent 'DH mtb' helmet standard, so it should protect as well as any other (and better than most). The deviant is also more similar to a XC helmet as it has the same back-of-head adjuster that you find in XC helmets. Do you have any specialized dealers to try on a Spec Xc helmet as a rough comparison for fit?

    THere are not many other 'all mountain' full face helmets available in the US because of liability. Giro used to make one, until people started to use them for 'real impact mtb' and kept breaking the helmets and their faces. The euros still have a few of those type of helmets (really an XC helmet with a chin bar) as they both seem to understand the limits of use, and are not so sue happy as we are here....

    as mentioned before, for giro, bell, and specialized, you should be able to find an XC or road helmet to try for fit/shape. Some helmets fit more round and some are more oval or egg shaped....and they tend to cary this fit characteristic across all models....for example you will most likely fit either a bell or giro, but not both (same company, different fit shape)...
     
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    I think people go overboard when they say they want a carbon helmet, If you think it will crack you are wrong...its going to be stronger than fibreglass......

    Also people go overboard when they thinking about helmets, you want it to absorb asmuchof the forces as possible.....

    I had a Carbon probravo smashed it head on.... It looks perfect...... but I got a compression fracture in my vertebrae. (T5).....

    I dont think too much about the strength now..... depends on the type of fall, speed etc..I think in certaincircumstances some helmets are better than others....

    I would probably go for the specialized deviant its the best ventilated.... the Remedy is wellventialted too....
     
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    I use a Spec Deviant here in Singapore(constant 30++ degrees celcius). Vents real good, but like all full face helmets, it does tend to get a little warm once I stop moving. It does stay cooler than the Fox Rampage, the TLD D2 and the Bell Bellistic(these are helmets I have actually worn). The Deviant has XC style clips in the back of the helmet to help dial in the fit(if you're worried about head shape) and it is quite long in the jaw, some people say that helps with the ventilation. Hope that helps.
     
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    If you want to get a sense of how the Specialized Deviant fits, see if your local dealer has an Instinct helmet. They use a very similar foam piece, just remember that the Deviant will fit just a little bit tighter because of additional padding (the Instinct only has a traditional brow pad inside)