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Help me choose a wagon.

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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for $5k i'd be looking at a mid 90s buick roadmaster wagon. tint that sucka up and just float down the road :thumb:

 

tmoney727t

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Feb 22, 2005
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my camry wagon is hot. Mack, u know i got the sick hookup with my shagin wagon. Dont get a camry wagon becasue tehn it will look like ur coppying me.
 

Repack

Turbo Monkey
Nov 29, 2001
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My mom has a '96 Volvo 850 GLT wagon. On flats it get 30+ mpg @ 80+mph. It averages ~25mpg overall. 2.4L i5. It doesn't seem to matter how fast you go. It won't win any drag races but has great highway sustain. It does not have any sort of traction control which sucks.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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SF, CA
Repack said:
My mom has a '96 Volvo 850 GLT wagon. On flats it get 30+ mpg @ 80+mph. It averages ~25mpg overall. 2.4L i5. It doesn't seem to matter how fast you go. It won't win any drag races but has great highway sustain. It does not have any sort of traction control which sucks.
I wanted one of the T5R versions. Those yellow ****ers. They were hot.
 

ALEXIS_DH

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Jan 30, 2003
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Lima, Peru, Peru
Repack said:
My mom has a '96 Volvo 850 GLT wagon. On flats it get 30+ mpg @ 80+mph. It averages ~25mpg overall. 2.4L i5. It doesn't seem to matter how fast you go. It won't win any drag races but has great highway sustain. It does not have any sort of traction control which sucks.

wtf?????? what kind of gas you guys use to get those amazing mpg???
even when new, my moms 850 never got more than 23-24mpg on 97 oct gas...
average was aroung 30km a gal (20mpg maybe).
 

ALEXIS_DH

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Changleen said:
My Dad had one for a test drive. It did kick ass.
they are sweet, am getting one...
actually am still waiting for an ok one to show up on the market... in the last month or so i´ve seen one, and a few low pressure turbo s70 (which are kinda neat, but i like the 850 more)...
there are not that many 850 t5 manuals in Lima with less than 50k miles....
 

Repack

Turbo Monkey
Nov 29, 2001
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ALEXIS_DH said:
wtf?????? what kind of gas you guys use to get those amazing mpg???
even when new, my moms 850 never got more than 23-24mpg on 97 oct gas...
average was aroung 30km a gal (20mpg maybe).
You are from Peru? What altitude? 30mpg was only on flats. The trip was from Boston to Snowshoe last summer. Cruise control the whole way, about 1,600 miles total.

And btw, you are literally burning your money by using 97 octane. High octane gas is designed to prevent pre-detination in high compression motors. On a n/a Volvo or most other cars for that matter, Octane rating has NO EFFECT on anything but your wallet. Its one of the greatest urban legends of all time.
 

ALEXIS_DH

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Repack said:
You are from Peru? What altitude? 30mpg was only on flats. The trip was from Boston to Snowshoe last summer. Cruise control the whole way, about 1,600 miles total.

And btw, you are literally burning your money by using 97 octane. High octane gas is designed to prevent pre-detination in high compression motors. On a n/a Volvo or most other cars for that matter, Octane rating has NO EFFECT on anything but your wallet. Its one of the greatest urban legends of all time.
i live in lima, which is sea level.
i use 97 oct, because we only get 84, 90 and 97 at the pumps... 90 causes some problems, and if not, it retards the ignition noticeable on most cars i´ve driven... 97 works fine, and since there is no middle point between 90 and 97 plus, i suspect the 97 oct gas we get here is rigged.

there is 95 oct, but is pretty rare...
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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wow, those are some weird octanes. around here it's all 87, 89, 91/92/93. in montana i saw an 85 pump and it just about made my jaw drop...
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
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Lima, Peru, Peru
Toshi said:
wow, those are some weird octanes. around here it's all 87, 89, 91/92/93. in montana i saw an 85 pump and it just about made my jaw drop...
yeah i remember that when i lived in the states.. the difference between top premium and regular were less than spread between 2 octanes here.

84 oct is basically crap, in fact i really doubt is actually 84 it basically exists for the millions vw bugs and old carburated cars running with very retarded distributors.... 90 is pretty decent for most cars with less than 9.0 compression... 97 is a must for any turbo, aluminum block, or higher compression car....

i heard the gvmt said they were gonna drop the 84 sometime soon.... (but soon by SA gvmt standards means anytime in the next 20 years....)
 

Pau11y

Turbo Monkey
Subis don't get nearly as good a gas milage as you might think. Remember this:
"It get better gas milage than a Ford Explorer..." for the Outback wagon. Look at what they're comparing it to. When I was shopping for a car a couple of months back, I read it was like 18 city and 24 Hwy for the Outback.
Now, my suggestion isn't for the "sports util" type. But if you "need" a wagon, get a Jetta TDI in the wagon flavor. 38mgp stop/go and 46 hwy. Get the German made ones tho vs the Brazil or Mexico ones - do a VIN check and it'll tell you.

Edit: Oops, didn't see your $$ limit. I guess this is out for you. For $5K, just get any 4 banger manual and you'll do better than most on milage. Toyota is the first to come to mind - Carolla maybe?
 

Repack

Turbo Monkey
Nov 29, 2001
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ALEXIS_DH said:
i live in lima, which is sea level.
i use 97 oct, because we only get 84, 90 and 97 at the pumps... 90 causes some problems, and if not, it retards the ignition noticeable on most cars i´ve driven... 97 works fine, and since there is no middle point between 90 and 97 plus, i suspect the 97 oct gas we get here is rigged.

there is 95 oct, but is pretty rare...
Very strange indeed.


Maybe its not what you are looking for, but a Honda CRV may fit the bill. Much more space than it looks, AWD and 25mpg. My boss has one. Ridden in it a couple of times and it is actually not bad if you can get by the "not exactly a chick magnetc" factor. But it does sound like it fits your bill. As sad as it is to think about, and AWD minivan would prob be my ideal vehicle, but that'll never happen!
 

TreeSaw

Mama Monkey
Oct 30, 2003
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Toshi said:
wow, those are some weird octanes. around here it's all 87, 89, 91/92/93. in montana i saw an 85 pump and it just about made my jaw drop...
We sometimes see 86 but that's usually at the Oneida Reservation or the gas companies that they own right near the casinos in the Syracuse area.
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
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The Natural State
Pau11y said:
Subis don't get nearly as good a gas milage as you might think. Remember this:
"It get better gas milage than a Ford Explorer..." for the Outback wagon. Look at what they're comparing it to. When I was shopping for a car a couple of months back, I read it was like 18 city and 24 Hwy for the Outback.
Now, my suggestion isn't for the "sports util" type. But if you "need" a wagon, get a Jetta TDI in the wagon flavor. 38mgp stop/go and 46 hwy. Get the German made ones tho vs the Brazil or Mexico ones - do a VIN check and it'll tell you.

Edit: Oops, didn't see your $$ limit. I guess this is out for you. For $5K, just get any 4 banger manual and you'll do better than most on milage. Toyota is the first to come to mind - Carolla maybe?
I'd beg to differ on this one, I'm getting 27 mpg doing my daily driving with my 2005 Impreza 2.5 RS wagon............
 
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Forester XT's are out of the price range... but I've hit 28mpg in my 06. And its quite fun to drive. On average, w/ sportworks and a bike on it, and semi-rational driving, 24-25mpg. BUT, the turbo's do require premium fuel.

-James.
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
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In a van.... down by the river
Pau11y said:
Subis don't get nearly as good a gas milage as you might think. Remember this:
"It get better gas milage than a Ford Explorer..." for the Outback wagon. Look at what they're comparing it to. When I was shopping for a car a couple of months back, I read it was like 18 city and 24 Hwy for the Outback.
Yeah - seems the newer Sube just get worse and worse WRT mileage. Of course, with his budget he could get an older one and get a *whopping* 25mpg. :p
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
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In a van.... down by the river
Andyman_1970 said:
I'd beg to differ on this one, I'm getting 27 mpg doing my daily driving with my 2005 Impreza 2.5 RS wagon............
I think he was talking about the much larger Outback wagon - not the little one. My '97 full size Outback (2.5) gets 25mpg fairly regularly in mixed driving.