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Ice Bullit · Apr 23, 2004

My friend has one and he loves it, they are burly strong and ment to last.

They are made up in Canada where the Big Foot roam.

SuspectDevice · Apr 23, 2004

Originally posted by Ice Bullit

They are made up in Canada where the Big Foot roam.

That is the part near Taipei right?

BostonBullit · Apr 23, 2004

Originally posted by SuspectDevice
That is the part near Taipei right?

hehehe

Banshees are NOT made in Canada....

mrbigisbudgood · Apr 23, 2004

I love mine, sucks that I have to sell it as I have no frikkin use for it in Illinois. :angry:

mrbigisbudgood · Apr 23, 2004

Originally posted by BostonBullit
hehehe

Banshees are NOT made in Canada....

Sure they are, they're made in East Cantiawanada.

binary visions · Apr 23, 2004

Some people are gonna get mad, no doubt but:

IMO, Banshee's are over-built and under-engineered. There's no reason the frame needs to be that heavy. They machine big thick stock and gusset everywhere and call it strong. It IS strong, but it's unnecessarily heavy too.

But hey, if you like the design/geometry you know what they say about the shoe fitting..

Oops. Forgot to put on my flame-proof suit.

zane · Apr 23, 2004

They're super strong but WAY too heavy.....

llkoolkeg · Apr 23, 2004

Originally posted by binary visions
Some people are gonna get mad, no doubt but:

IMO, Banshee's are over-built and under-engineered. There's no reason the frame needs to be that heavy. They machine big thick stock and gusset everywhere and call it strong. It IS strong, but it's unnecessarily heavy too.

But hey, if you like the design/geometry you know what they say about the shoe fitting..

Oops. Forgot to put on my flame-proof suit.

At what point does a FR or DH frame become "unnecessarily heavy"? 10 pounds? 12 pounds? Tell me what bike is comparably strong and weighs less? I looked around and didn't see too many options within $500 of the Scream's price; heck, I didn't see too many options within $1,000 of the Scream's price!

jimmydean · Apr 23, 2004

If you are a big guy, they are great. I don't go big enough to justify one, but for people who ride hard, that are over 200 pounds, they can be perfect.

I agree they are a little heavy, but I know people who have broken lesser bikes and since moved to the Scream with no issues. For some people, there isn't much option (except steel).

The HT is overkill though.

jmvar · Apr 23, 2004

when the scream first hit the market I heard everyone saying "it is heavy but it feels light"....I thought that was a load of she!t! If your gonna buy a heavy bike, go for it and buy a heavy bike but don't talk yourself into believing it is lighter than it weighs, weight is weight, right?

I jumped on one last weekend and after I got off I made the best effort I could to stick my foot in my mouth. It rides lighter than it is. Don't ask me to explain it, because I can't......it really does ride lighter than the frame feels when you pick it up. just an observation.

PS....describe your riding style (do you do drops, ride rough terrain or is it smooth, at that stuff) before some of these guys on here jump on you for not posting right......

you have a huge selection to chose from so have fun.

Darryl · Apr 23, 2004

My '04 ships Monday, I'll let you know.

binary visions · Apr 23, 2004

Originally posted by llkoolkeg
At what point does a FR or DH frame become "unnecessarily heavy"? 10 pounds? 12 pounds? Tell me what bike is comparably strong and weighs less? I looked around and didn't see too many options within $500 of the Scream's price; heck, I didn't see too many options within $1,000 of the Scream's price!

I am not saying that, as a freeride bike, it is too heavy. I'm simply stating that it could be significantly lighter for the same strength if it were engineered better/differently.

For a really big guy, it can be a good bike, but most of the population - even the big guys - could get away with a LOT less frame. Would most of these guys really break a Yeti AS-X? Nope.

I concede, for the price, you probably can't but a stronger frame. But 98% of the riding population simply doesn't need a frame that strong and is hauling around the 3 extra pounds of frame weight for no good reason.

DamienC · Apr 23, 2004

About 45 lbs on the shop scale (sz small frame). A little porky? Sure but whatevs. It pedals well, geometry works well for the terrain around here, and it's fun to ride. I hop on and go, go, go up the mountain and down the mountain with a big smile on my face. Good enough for me.

I consider the extra 3 lbs of frame as weight training - no need to lift at the gym.

Custom headbadge... :devil:

llkoolkeg · Apr 23, 2004

Originally posted by DamienC
[Custom headbadge... :devil:

That still cracks me up. I wanted her in the worst way as a young laddie. Those tiny, thin shorts and tops ruled. :love:

binary visions · Apr 23, 2004

Originally posted by DamienC
I hop on and go, go, go up the mountain and down the mountain with a big smile on my face. Good enough for me.

...and really, that's all that matters anyway.

DamienC · Apr 23, 2004

Upon further thought, one instance when I REALLY notice the heft of my Scream is after riding all day when I'm totally cashed and broken - and then have to carry that POS up a few flights of stairs to my apartment :dead:

.

Lizard0fthetrai · Apr 23, 2004

chapparral?

mrbigisbudgood · Apr 23, 2004

Originally posted by Lizard0fthetrai
chapparral?

Bisquick

mrbigisbudgood · Apr 23, 2004

I'd get an RM7 when they finally make one for freeriding.

Seriously though......how big do you go? Whaddya weigh?

klunky · Apr 23, 2004

How do they compare to transition bikes? i thought the Dirt bag looked similar although i was told somewhere that transition bikes have a nasty leverage ratio on shocks

Toshi · Apr 23, 2004

Originally posted by 243-Man
thanks guys

which bike should i choose that less heavier than the Scream?

i forgot to say that im going to do many urbanriding on this bike(that means - many drops to flat n' doubles )

what do you guys think about the VP-free or the V8 ? is it will be able to suffer aggressive urbans ? of better i will forget about it?.

thanks guys )))))

urban? ride a hardtail. seriously.

Lizard0fthetrai · Apr 24, 2004

I strongly suggest you come to SOME sort of conclusion prior to asking everyone about one frame and then switching to something entirely different...narrow your options down...use the search tool. No offense...Also, why replace all the Saint stuff? I'm sensing either a dreamer or a major waste of money.

Ice Bullit · Apr 25, 2004

Originally posted by klunky
How do they compare to transition bikes? i thought the Dirt bag looked similar although i was told somewhere that transition bikes have a nasty leverage ratio on shocks

I havent had any issues with mine at all, send Kyle a e-mail and he will answer all the questions you have on the technical side of things:

kyleyoung@transitionbikes.com

T0mo · Apr 25, 2004

Originally posted by klunky
How do they compare to transition bikes? i thought the Dirt bag looked similar although i was told somewhere that transition bikes have a nasty leverage ratio on shocks

use the search thing. It's 2.5:1 for 5" and 3:1 for 6". Thats not too bad at all.

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