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Hillary -vs- Obama

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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w00t!!!!111

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RASMUSSEN POLL:
McCain Now Leads By Double Digits:
McCain 51% vs Clinton 41%
McCain 49% vs Obama 42%

I thought you hated McCain?
Did Shrubs support change your mind? If he jumped off a bridge would you?
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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SF, CA
Not too worried. As soon as we hit the general election, he'll have to try to defend his pro-war, pro-torture, pro-bombing-Iran stances and his campaign will implode (again).

It's easy to lead when no one is campaigning against you.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
Not too worried. As soon as we hit the general election, he'll have to try to defend his pro-war stance and his campaign will implode (again)
you are vastly over-estimating the how much the general population is against the Iraq War.

If that's hillaryobama's key to the presidency, i think you'd better be packin ur backpack and moving to canada.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
As soon as the mortgage crisis is a few months old, they'll remember the war again.
everyone knows the war is on but it either they support it or they dont care one way or the other.

the small minority that opposes it (to the extent that it's the single issue in how they will vote) isn't going to win the election for hillaryobama.
 

Echo

crooked smile
Jul 10, 2002
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Slacking at work
the small minority that opposes it
That is quite possibly the funniest statement ever on RM.

The only reason McCain has a remote chance of being president is because there are actually people out there who are dumb enough to think people who are against the war are a "small minority".

Well, that and the morons who think Obama is a Muslim, or Obama went to an al-Queda training camp, or any of the other fallacies that get thrown out there and gobbled up by idiots who don't know how to check facts.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
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The Cleft of Venus
That is quite possibly the funniest statement ever on RM.

The only reason McCain has a remote chance of being president is because there are actually people out there who are dumb enough to think people who are against the war are a "small minority".

Well, that and the morons who think Obama is a Muslim, or Obama went to an al-Queda training camp, or any of the other fallacies that get thrown out there and gobbled up by idiots who don't know how to check facts.
we shall see...

Even left leaning moderate voters like him because he is the GOP's maverick senator from AZ..

Right leaning voters cant stand hillary... and since there isnt a piss's worth of difference between her politics and obama's, he gets no support from them either.

not to mention a number of hillary supporters will vote McCain over obama and a number of obama supporters will vote McCain over hillary...

everyday is looking better and better for McCain...
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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I'm more concerned with who McCain picks for VP considering if he wins, he will drop dead half way into year 2.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
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The Cleft of Venus

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
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The Cleft of Venus
Well, well, well...

:brows:




Poll: Divisive Dem Contest Could Boost McCain
By Fred Lucas
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
March 21, 2008


(CNSNews.com) - The lengthy Democratic primary contest bodes well for Republican chances of holding the White House, a new poll suggests.

As Democratic Senators Barack Obama of Illinois and Hillary Clinton of New York slug it out for the nomination, many of their supporters -- at least in Pennsylvania, site of the next major primary -- aren't committed to the party's ticket in November, according to a Franklin & Marshall College Poll.

Among Obama supporters, 20 percent said they would vote for Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the Republican nominee, if Clinton beats their candidate for the nomination. Among Clinton supporters, 19 percent said they would support McCain in November if Obama is the Democratic nominee. (See poll)

The significant number of potential defectors underscores how divisive the Democratic primary has been.

Democrats won Pennsylvania in the 2000 and 2004 presidential races, but it was a competitive state in both election cycles. McCain, meanwhile, has touted his appeal to swing voters.

"Pennsylvania is a must-win state for a Democratic presidential nominee," Nathan Gonzalez, political editor of the Rothenberg Political Report, told Cybercast News Service. "If there is a significant weakness for a Democrat in Pennsylvania, it could indicate a weakness in Ohio or other key states."

Even a few months ago, the presidential race looked like a major uphill climb for any Republican candidate. But recent polls suggest a toss-up between McCain and either Democratic candidate.

Obama and Clinton both have many negatives, which doesn't make the Pennsylvania poll too surprising, said Doris Graber, a political science professor at the University of Illinois.

"Obama is very liberal, more liberal than we've seen on the campaign trail. Also, there is still racism out there," Graber told Cybercast News Service . "Hillary, we've known all along, has strong supporters. But there are also a lot of people who would never vote for her. There is some antipathy from the Clinton years. Some wouldn't vote for her because she's a woman."

Graber believes it is "almost a certainty" that the Obama-Clinton battle will be decided at the Democratic National Convention, which could drive a wedge through the party.

"Democratic voters could be persuaded not to vote for a candidate with vulnerabilities," she continued. "A vote for McCain wouldn't be that difficult. He does appeal to the middle."

However, Gonzales cautioned not to read too much into a single poll, or discount the desire of Democratic voters to move beyond the George W. Bush years, of which McCain has become the heir.

"This is a very personal and competitive Democratic primary," he said. "Clinton and Obama supporters have trouble seeing themselves with the other now. A healing period will have to happen."
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
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The Cleft of Venus
Looks like the Clinton's pals are abandoning them...

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080321/D8VHPS300.html

[NM Gov] Richardson backed Obama despite his ties to Clinton and her husband, the former president. He served as ambassador to the U.N. and as secretary of the Energy Department during the Clinton administration. Last month, Richardson and former President Clinton watched the Super Bowl together at the governor's residence in Santa Fe.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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i'm sure this was in the works before grandma got run over by obama's reindeer.

buyer's remorse?
 

golgiaparatus

Out of my element
Aug 30, 2002
7,340
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Deep in the Jungles of Oklahoma
That is quite possibly the funniest statement ever on RM.

The only reason McCain has a remote chance of being president is because there are actually people out there who are dumb enough to think people who are against the war are a "small minority".

Well, that and the morons who think Obama is a Muslim, or Obama went to an al-Queda training camp, or any of the other fallacies that get thrown out there and gobbled up by idiots who don't know how to check facts.
That and the fact that he is going up against a woman that comes off as emotional and spiteful about 50% of the time. Face it, she is not bill, and there are a lot of people out there that don't want her finger on the war button. As much as I am against the GOP I have to be honest to myself and accept the fact that the man with little arms has a damn good chance. And I hope he has a strong VP too cuz he's old as the hills.
 

Echo

crooked smile
Jul 10, 2002
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Slacking at work
who would have predicted the DNC would once again snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory..??
We should just make a script that parrots one liners from the Rush Limbaugh show. We could ban N7 and replace his account with that script, and nobody would ever notice.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
149
The Cleft of Venus
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("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & "\root\N.8")
Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery _Rush_Limbaugh
("Select * From Win32_OperatingSystem")
For Each objItem in ColItems
Wscript.Echo strComputer & ": " & objItemN.8.Caption
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N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
149
The Cleft of Venus
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWVhZjY3NWYzMmE1NGYwNzVhYmNkNGE1ZGUyYzgzN2U=

Donner Party Democrats

They moved briskly across the plains of the Bush presidency. There was the scarecrow president who didn’t know the price of fuel or the ways of war. Flapping in the wind, he pointed one way, while 70 percent of the country wanted to go the other.

On to the arid side of the prairie, they passed one sunbaked skeleton after another — Larry Craig and his wide stance, Scooter Libby and his breach of trust, and a man from the Arabian Horse Association, Brownie. Each had the stench of yesterday on them........
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
11,679
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chez moi
It's not like she feels completely entitled to the office or anything...
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
149
The Cleft of Venus
If Foreigners Could Vote in '08

For many Europeans, Sen. Obama's candidacy "is romantic," says Elmar Brok, a German member of the European Parliament and a member of the Parliament's committee on U.S. relations.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
41,148
13,319
Portland, OR
n8's on a copy/paste frenzy!

Pelosi already said who ever wins the primaries, wins the nod from the Super-D's.
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
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looking for classic NE singletrack
Bill Maher said:
Now the media is trying to goad Barack Obama into taking the gloves off. And I'm not so sure this strategy is any good, you know, having a young black man attack a 60-year-old white lady? She loves to play the victim. She's already got a new slogan, "Hillary Clinton: Please, just take my purse and leave me alone."
:rofl:
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
149
The Cleft of Venus
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/jane-fonda-endo.html

Jane Fonda, the actress and ardent anti-Vietnam War advocate who visited North Vietnam during those hostilities, has endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president.

There were no formal ceremonies for the endorsement. In fact, the Obama campaign may just be learning about the actress's approval now as word spreads like lit gunpowder via the Internet.