I am going to be building up a V10 and want to build it up as light as possable, I am about 130 and was wondering if I would be good running some minis
Hope mini for DH
- Thread starter TheMontashu
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i use minis ( the old type) in my dh bike, the power is good if you use 8in discs and different pads will help too. but then agian the m4s are only about 100 grams more then the mono minis and lighter then the old type minis. how much you weight also? i would stay away form them unless you are reasonably light.
im going to take a wild guess at 130pds. Thats just a guess though, what do i know?TheMontashu said:
Run it, you idiot, you're so light that you could pinch your rim with your fingers and stop just fine.
Ya but when I am riding my bike you are usualy simultaniously riding me so maybe I should go with M4sghettogt76 said:
Well in that case, I'd reccomend a corvette brake system to stop my fatass.TheMontashu said:
You are pretty fat, maybe you should get that canfield and ride that down the mountian and save riding me for after N* and back at the condo after whistler this summerghettogt76 said:
I am doing anything I can to save weight, middleburns, ti spokes (maybe), carobn bars, light tires (not sure on tubless), I'm even spending the extra money to get the ano to drop more weight (as soon as my lazy boss orders the thing) O and there will be picsdhkid said:
I like riding you down the mountain more, you have more suspension travel, and more "cushion" so when I am "pushing" really "hard" in a "fast" corner I stay in control.TheMontashu said:
No thats how it is when I ride you, I am totaly rigid, its all skin and boneghettogt76 said:
You're right, my rolls of fat are more plush than a fox 40.TheMontashu said:
Then why am I spending the money to get a 1600$ fork? O YA its lighterghettogt76 said:
****... ti spokes? thats a bit nuts, coz they snap quite easy even for trailriders. i would rather go with dt revolutions with alloy nipples, they are nearly the same weight (around 10 grams more) as ti with brass nipples. just that you would be changing nipples quite often, just that chaging nipples are nothing compared to chaging spokes. look into tubeless, make a huge difference even more if you use single ply tires.TheMontashu said:
edit:why dont you get a boxxer wc while you are at it... lighter then the fox 40.
Ummmmm my anus has more travel than your 40 though.... with the KY dampening system.....TheMontashu said:
I was planing on using ti spokes with alloy nipples but will consider a light double butted spoke. As far as tubeless goes I ride alot of tech stuff and do not want to pinch my tire, If I do go tubeless it is going to be in the fron tire onlydhkid said:
WOW......ghettogt76 said:
You don't want to use alloy nipples, they with probably snap off from braking. Plus I would just go with a light weight steel spoke. As far as power for brakes, you're probably better off getting M4's but at your size you may be able to get away with Minis. However I'd still go M4.
My questions is if you obsessed about getting a light weight DH bike, why are you getting a v10?
My chick team mate (110-120 lbs) ran a set of mono minis. They wroked great almost all year. I (160lbs) did a run after they were broken in at the start of the year. They were great, just enough power, great feel and modulation. I was riding on a small hill, so I don't know how well the would handle heat build up.
How ever she was saying they felt bad at St. Anne. I tryed them in the parking lot, felt like poo. I don't really know why. I would guess the brake lines had air in them, from the feel.
When they worked the worked quite well. If you easy on your brakes (ie not alot of long draging) then I would try them.
How ever she was saying they felt bad at St. Anne. I tryed them in the parking lot, felt like poo. I don't really know why. I would guess the brake lines had air in them, from the feel.
When they worked the worked quite well. If you easy on your brakes (ie not alot of long draging) then I would try them.
Because I basicly have 3 choices for a DH bike- Demo 8, Gracia, or a V10Zutroy said:
I am thinking of using a light weight steel spoke. As far as alloy nipples go I work with the guy who one norba DH for semi pro and didn't have ny problems using alloy nipples. I am still not sure on using the M4s or Minis maybe a mini inf the rear and an M4 in the frontBrian HCM#1 said:
I had alum nipples on my trailbike, which saw plenty of rocky dh, and my 190lbs couldn't snap them. I bet he'd be ok so long as they were well built wheels.Brian HCM#1 said:
And to the OP: what exactly is your fear about running tubeless on the rear? NO pinchflats b/c there is nothing to pinch...
i have always run alloy nipples on my bikes and never had a problem and i beat my wheels to death
I got rid of the Mini's (1st generation) on my xc bike because they would completely go away on long descents. The fluid would boil and the levers would just go to the bar. I flushed and bled them with fresh fluid but to no avail. I could revive them by spraying the calipers with water from my camelback. I was thinking of rigging up a pair of emergency syringes, when I gave up and just bought some Hayes Mags.
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A trail bike is a bit different from a DH bike since all it see's is rough/rocky terrain. Plus this bike I'm assuming will see mostly Northstar, which is not a very parts friendly place, it's where bikes/parts go to die.sbabuser said:
Exactly. The mini's will be fine with seven inch rotors for you Loren. I ran them on every course exepct Durango and then I needed the eight. You'll be fine with the mini's but the V-10 is a bit much. Go single pivot.Zutroy said:
There is something to pinch..... its called the tiresbabuser said:
I don't want a single pivot unless it is a DHR, but I can't get one so they are out. I don't like the new gracias I think its so much travel for a single pivot. Heath you are not going to get me on a Cdale for DH, A V10 may be to much for me right now but I do ride DH atleast once a week, and am going to be in whistler next summer for 10 days as well as north star alot.Heath Sherratt said:
If you want a light DH bike you need to look at bikes like the Orange 224 or the Cannondale Gracia. If you want to build a light V10, then saving weight on the brakes is not the answer. Hope m4s are the most you need but they may be the least you need. the weight difference is negligible and in many races, out braking the competition is the ticket to victory. A mini in the rear would be ok but not in the front. If you don't race then disregard what I've said, sort of.
I am not going to spend all that money to get a 223, its a single pivot and way over priced. Like I said in my last post I dont want a a gracia, I don't like them. If they are anything like the geminis they are to high for my likingRobsterCrw said:
3.5 years of running tubeless, I've never seen or heard of a tire getting snakebite, and that's anything from Maxxis dh treads to WTB superthin sidewall trail tires. Now cuts I've seen, but there's no way a tube would prevent a flat in most cases, anyway.TheMontashu said:
I ride in the Denver area, I know all about rocks...
The power of the older Mini I find is a little better, the M4 is a better option for the front.dhkid said:
looks like my all-mtn AS-X is becoming a mini-DH bike... 6 inch slider DC up front, mono minis, 200 mm rotor in front 180 in rear. mmm.
As for old minis vs. new minis: There was indeed a bit more power in the old ones. The feel is SO much better on the new ones. It feels to me like the pads in the new ones aren't the best, and I am waiting for some 3rd party pads to come out so I can try them.
Another issue is on a single-pivot you can't be dragging the brakes all the time, because it will make the rear wheel stop tracking. Float over the section and jam the brakes at the end to make the turn.
I wouldn't run mono minis on a proper DH bike, but I think they will be perfect for my mini-DH.
As for old minis vs. new minis: There was indeed a bit more power in the old ones. The feel is SO much better on the new ones. It feels to me like the pads in the new ones aren't the best, and I am waiting for some 3rd party pads to come out so I can try them.
Another issue is on a single-pivot you can't be dragging the brakes all the time, because it will make the rear wheel stop tracking. Float over the section and jam the brakes at the end to make the turn.
I wouldn't run mono minis on a proper DH bike, but I think they will be perfect for my mini-DH.
what fork are you going to run on that thing?