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Hopey Porn

Fulton

Monkey
Nov 9, 2001
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hopey's are awesome, i'm really surpricsed more people aren't riding them. Weigh next to nothing, and when used with a DH headset, there is no chance of frame damage.
 

chicodude

The Spooninator
Mar 28, 2004
1,054
2
Paradise
Fulton said:
hopey's are awesome, i'm really surpricsed more people aren't riding them. Weigh next to nothing, and when used with a DH headset, there is no chance of frame damage.


I don't ride one becasue I am not dropping 200 bucks on that.........
 

captainpolution

Turbo Monkey
Nov 18, 2004
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thats 250 ^^^

and good choice, those look the the drop crown brackets woo, mine runs so good. and yea only reason i dont see more people with them is because of the price
 
Oct 1, 2001
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Michigan
Fulton said:
hopey's are awesome, i'm really surpricsed more people aren't riding them. Weigh next to nothing, and when used with a DH headset, there is no chance of frame damage.
Same here - I'm surprised more people don't run them. It improves handling so well, especially in rock gardens and corners. I've had mine for three years and love it. I run a King headset and have never had any problems (had it on a DHI, Giant and V10, getting ready to install it on my 2005 V10) with the frames. Someone says above that it makes it harder to steer - that's really not what it does, but rather it dampens your front wheel from deflecting off of objects. The main reason I bought one was that I was getting serious arm pump and wanted to see if it would help. After talking with Tim at an NCS I bought it and it's made a huge difference. I'm able to hang on to my bars with less effort but still hold better lines. Given the overall price of what it takes to get into our sport the xtra $230 (I believe that's retail on them) is well worth it.

If anyone wants to check them out on a bike just grab one of the team High Gear's guys/gals at a race - we'll be at Diablo, East Coast NMBS's, some Pkills and Masters Worlds.
 

Dartman

Old Bastard Mike
Feb 26, 2003
3,911
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Richmond, VA
dirtjumpP.1 said:
just curious... how does it work?
It resists the wheel deflecting on it's own keeping it tracking to center. Hopey's demo is a fork setup over a treadmill with climbing blocks mounted to it. The wheel just keeps going straight over the bumps without rider input. In this sense it make steering easier by not having to constantly correct for wheel deflection. It's totally adjustable from off to very stiff. I just haven't had the bucks to shell out on one but the idea intrigues me.

Mike
 

Duzitall

Monkey
Jun 20, 2004
452
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San Diego
I don't have a Hopey on my bicycle yet but I'm planning on it on this years frame. Once you try a Scotts or GPR on a dirt bike you will always want to have one. About 10 years ago I broke my wrist going thru tall grass at speed and found a hidden rock. I bought a Scotts the next week and have run one ever since.
 

guero

Chimp
Mar 27, 2005
81
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Vancouver now Halifax
I don't race downhill and I'm sure they're great for strictly getting down the mountain faster, which I guess is the point. But they kind of limit the appeal and watchability of the sport in my opinion. Who wants to watch some dude straight line it down a hill and not be able to cross it up or lay it flat?
 

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2002
2,030
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Phoenix, Az USA
here's my hopey. our team bought 3 units. i have not got much riding time at all with mine this winter. this dangerboy stem does not work good at all with spaces so i've ordered a different stem/bar combo.

Also, the hopey should be able to help the rider whip the rear end out more than not having one.

 

Brian HCM#1

MMMMMMMMM BEER!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 7, 2001
32,119
378
Bay Area, California
Fulton said:
hopey's are awesome, i'm really surpricsed more people aren't riding them. Weigh next to nothing, and when used with a DH headset, there is no chance of frame damage.
I think thats the MAIN reason, there's been a history of the headthube ovalizing in the past when used with a stock size headset. If you do a CK steelset the Hopey goes with the frame when you sell it.
 

Jesus

Monkey
Jun 12, 2002
583
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Louisville, KY
I loved mine, but after 2 headtube ovalizations, it's sitting on my bench.

If he could come up with some other way to mount it, i'd put it back on.
 

RhinofromWA

Brevity R Us
Aug 16, 2001
4,622
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Lynnwood, WA
Jesus said:
I loved mine, but after 2 headtube ovalizations, it's sitting on my bench.

If he could come up with some other way to mount it, i'd put it back on.
It would be cool iof manufacturers would put a Hopey frame mount like the ROtecs have.

It removes all the headset related issues altogether.
 

Jesus

Monkey
Jun 12, 2002
583
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Louisville, KY
RhinofromWA said:
It would be cool iof manufacturers would put a Hopey frame mount like the ROtecs have.

It removes all the headset related issues altogether.
It seems like the perfect solution, but near impossible to get mfgrs to do it.
 

llkoolkeg

Ranger LL
Sep 5, 2001
4,329
5
in da shed, mon, in da shed
Mine sits on my work bench because it stopped working. I would have the damping cranked up and after one run, would find that it had backed itself out to having almost no effect. The threaded post mount and steel lock wedges were significant improvements, but I can't see mailing it back for a rebuild unless it didn't cost that much to do so. I still have the bracket installed on my Scream, in fact.
 

Jesus

Monkey
Jun 12, 2002
583
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Louisville, KY
llkoolkeg said:
Mine sits on my work bench because it stopped working. I would have the damping cranked up and after one run, would find that it had backed itself out to having almost no effect. The threaded post mount and steel lock wedges were significant improvements, but I can't see mailing it back for a rebuild unless it didn't cost that much to do so. I still have the bracket installed on my Scream, in fact.
I think a rebuild is only $25 if memory serves me correctly.
 

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
4,561
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SC, CA
I'd say the S2 will be fine on an XC bike with the lighter loads of a woman rider.

Hopey's are cool. I can't imagine driving a big truck w/o a steering stabilizer so I can see how it would help on a DH too. The only reason I haven't started using them is because I've heard once you go Hopey you never go back. I don't know about the knee contact though, they seem to stick out kinda far.
 

næstep

Monkey
Mar 8, 2003
110
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SF Bay Area, California
punkassean said:
I'd say the S2 will be fine on an XC bike with the lighter loads of a woman rider.
Good, that's what I'm thinking as well. She's not dishing out any king of a beating, but I never want to make that fatal mistake that costs me a frame.

I think this damper is going to make a notable difference in her climbing.
 

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
4,561
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SC, CA
I seem to remember that CC headsets have a slightly deeper than normal cup to begin with. Also doesn't Hopey have a lo-pro adapter that's slimmer?
 

captainpolution

Turbo Monkey
Nov 18, 2004
1,017
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i asked Tim the question about the headtubes ovalizationing, lol. He said with the regular CK that it will be totally fine

and the lo pro i guess is the superlite for the weight wienies
 

Jesus

Monkey
Jun 12, 2002
583
0
Louisville, KY
captainpolution said:
i asked Tim the question about the headtubes ovalizationing, lol. He said with the regular CK that it will be totally fine

and the lo pro i guess is the superlite for the weight wienies
That's the headset I was using. BTW it was on an SLX.
 

næstep

Monkey
Mar 8, 2003
110
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SF Bay Area, California
I don't remember very many dreams, but I dreamt last night that the Cane Creek cup was an inch deep when I removed it.

Wow, in reflection, that's a pretty disturbing dream. I'd better keep it to myself.