How big of a sell out do you have to be?

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  1. jimmydean

    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    I heard on the radio this morning that the "new" Guns and Roses album is being released Exclusively at WalMart.

    Ironic that the album is titled "Chinese Democracy".

    Granted, I'm not a fan of them, but to sign a deal like that is just sad. Were they not making enough money on the county fair circuit?
     

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  2. sanjuro

    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    Who is Guns N' Roses
     
  3. MMike

    MMike A fowl peckerwood.

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    I think Slash used have a band by that name...
     
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    I Are Baboon Run, Forrest, Run!

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    Things like this make the dinosaur extinction event look like nothing.
     
  5. sanjuro

    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    Slash? I thought he was the boss from Guitar Hero III? Is he a real person?
     
  6. MountainDrew

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    you are all wrong...it was Bucketheads failed band.
     
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    Buckethead rules!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. MountainDrew

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    I agree, but what was he thinking starting a band with that jackass?
     
  9. jonKranked

    jonKranked Press Button, Receive Stupid

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    Even Buckethead had/has enough sense to realize that GnR is done. Axl Rose is apparently still the only one holding onto that delusion. Oh and Wal-Mart.
     
  10. jimmydean

    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    I guess WalMart exclusivity is about as far on the other side of the spectrum from what Radiohead did as one band could get.

    But I think if G&R tried to pull that, nobody would download it. Not even for free as it's a huge waste of bandwidth.
     
  11. Jeremy R

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    Welcome to the Wal-Mart,
    We've got fun and games,
    We've got everything you want,
    Honey we know the names,
    We are the people that can find,
    Whatever you may need,
    If you got the money, honey,
    We got your disease

    In the Wal-Mart
    Welcome to the Wal-Mart
    Watch it bring us to our
    knees, knees
    I wanna watch our country bleed
     
  12. moff_quigley

    moff_quigley Why don't you have a seat over there?

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  13. JohnE

    JohnE filthy rascist

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    I guess this ensures that the target audience for the new G&R will all have wife beaters and mullets...
     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    Welcome to the walmart
    Our employees get no pay
    If you want it they're gonna bleed
    But it's the price they pay
    And you're a very cheap dumbass
    That's very hard to please
    You can see the plastic ****
    And you'll get it for next to free
    In the walmart
    Welcome to the walmart
    Feel my, my, my firm choke hold
    I, I wanna hear you scream


    Welcome to the walmart
    It gets worse here everyday
    Ya learn ta live like an fat-ass slob
    In the walmart where we play
    If you got a hunger for what you see
    You'll take it eventually
    You can have anything you want
    And you will get it for damn near free


    In the Wal-Mart
    Welcome to the Wal-Mart
    Watch it bring us to our
    knees, knees
    I wanna watch our country bleed


    And when you're high you never
    Ever want to come down, so down, so down, so down YEAH!


    You know where you are
    You're in the walmart baby
    You're gonna die
    In the walmart
    Welcome to the walmart
    Watch it bring you to your shu n,n,n,,n,n,,n,n,n,,n,n,,n,n,,n knees, knees
    In the walmart
    Welcome to the walmart
    Feel my, my, my firm choke hold
    In the walmart
    Welcome to the walmart
    Watch it bring you to your shun n,n,n,n,,n,n,,n,n,,n,n,,n.n, knees, knees
    In the walmart
    Welcome to the walmart
    Watch it bring you to your
    It's gonna bring us down!
    Ha!




    A walmart opened 4-5 years ago in my town, and I've yet to go in.
     
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    Shhh...

    They're watching...

     
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    I, actually, like most of GnR's songs and don't like any of Bucketheads...
    I wonder if it'll have any decent music on this one....
     
  17. jimmydean

    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    And don't like none of that there cussin' on them there CD's neither.
     
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    yeah, Axel is a sell out. i guess he figures (or for that matter knows) that the new album won't make a dime so why not sign with Walmart and get some guaranteed cash.
     
  19. Brian HCM#1

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    I used to love Guns n Roses. I'll probably even buy the new album. As far as a "Sell Out" goes. In this day & age of music, bands don't make the money they used to. Now you can download music for a couple of bucks, the Ipod/MP3 players are the dagger. It's not like to olden days when who had to buy it on CD, cassette, vinyl or in JBP's case 8 track, or chisel and stone tablet;) The bands of today need the tour to make the money, so maybe what Axl is doing isn't such a bad thing, at least financially for him.
     
  20. TN

    TN Hey baby, want a hot dog?

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    Nirvana sold out to WM too. They changed the art on In Utero so it could be sold in WM. That is when I stopped listening to them.
     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    Wasn't it that they made a version that had "rape me" listed as "waif me" or something like that?
     
  22. jimmydean

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    So how did Radiohead do so well with the Name Your Price approach (I think they averaged $5 per download. Much better than 20% or whatever)? Also, as I understand it, bands get a larger cut from iTunes sales than from CD sales.

    Back in the day, bands made money on tour, not on MTV. So making a bad tour is like making a bike racer ride a bike. Rather than sit back and get paid from Monster Energy Drinks for sporting a shirt at the mall.
     
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    TN Hey baby, want a hot dog?

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    I don't remember that.
     
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    I believe it.
     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    That's what I thought. I don't recall hearing anything about them censoring the artwork though.
     
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    BMXman I wish I was Canadian

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    wow it never ceases to amaze me how many people like to jump on the " I hate Walmart" bandwagon...D
     
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    Its not without good reason though. They treat employees like third class humans.
     
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    I have not been a fan since I lived in Woodburn in '99. I saw first hand what happened to that town in the 2 years I was there. A while back I watched WAL-MART: The High Cost of Low Price and it further helped me to understand the negative impact they have.

    Not saying Target/Kohl's/Others are much better, but at least they aren't as openly offensive.
     
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    I work at a VERY large toy company that will remain nameless. And WM is our biggest customer. A lot of my job involves catering what I design to their demands and specs. And the toy industry isn't the only one that's basically being forced to do this.
     
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    and yet they still manage to stay open for business...hmmm
     
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    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    Are you surprised people like n8 shop there regardless of the larger picture? Seriously, the US is packed to capacity with sheeple.
     
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    BMXman I wish I was Canadian

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    exactly...I think Walmart is just the scapegoat for people who aren't willing to accept responsibility for the situation....that being said I have never shopped there...just never needed to...D
     
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    because American consumers are cheap bastards. They think they are entitled to pay the lowest prices possible.
     
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    BMXman I wish I was Canadian

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    see one post above yours :D
     
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    I don't think it's that easy. I think WalMart gets away with crap because they can. That's like saying GWB isn't a bad guy, he just has a bad rep. Stupid people put him into power and he (or at least his partners) have taken full advantage.

    Not saying people aren't stupid, just saying WalMart uses it's position to exploit. I don't see them as a scapegoat at all.

    I admit I used to shop there before I knew the impact. Knowing what I know now, I am trying to move before the WalMart gets built 5 miles from our house as it will kill the awesome community we live in.
     
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    Brian HCM#1 MMMMMMMMM BEER!!!!!!!!!!

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    It's way harder these days, I just heard on the radio that WalMart just signed a deal with AC/DC to sell their next album. Right off the bat it's 3 million copies. So before it's even released into the public, that new album has gone platinum. WalMart pays up front for the album. If you're an artist, that's one hell of a security blanket. It's too good to pass up.