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How cool is this bike (Yamaha)

Feb 14, 2004
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Pegs for grinding?! On a bike "lighter than a yz250!"?! No thanks, but the concept is cool, I think a full on DH bike with a tiny motor would be cooler... wait... why not make a full on DH bike with a HUGE motor?! Then we could ride on like flat ground and stuff! We could call it "motocross"!
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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i'd actually want the original "tricker" more. 250cc kinda scares me... aren't 250cc mx bikes supposed to be a handful?
 

Acadian

Born Again Newbie
Sep 5, 2001
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Toshi said:
i'd actually want the original "tricker" more. 250cc kinda scares me... aren't 250cc mx bikes supposed to be a handful?
ya I remember that one...it was posted here a few years ago. useless or not, I like both...just another cool toy if you ask me
 

Kornphlake

Turbo Monkey
Oct 8, 2002
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somebody should tell them the fork is on backwards. :D

I actually like the look of it, although I can't really see it catching on. I mean really, when are you going to use the pegs, it's not like they're going to let you ride that thing in a skate park. I just can't see concrete parks being built to a scale large enough for a bike like that to really be ridden.

On a side note, wouldn't bar spins be kind of difficult with the gyroscopic force of the giant front wheel trying to keep the tire going straight?
 
Sep 10, 2001
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Motionboy2 said:
So does that have cable actuated discs? Or is there a cylender at the other end of the head tube?

I think the gyro set up is for the clutch and gas only.... Looks like a hydro line through the steer for the front brake and the rear brake is with the right foot...

Brian
 

dfinn

Turbo Monkey
Jul 24, 2003
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aren't 250cc mx bikes supposed to be a handful?
um...yeah. my yz250 w/mods would hit power band in 4th gear at probably 60 or so mph and the front wheel would start to come off the ground. so much fun. my lower back reminds me reguarly that i shouldn't get another one.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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dfinn said:
um...yeah. my yz250 w/mods would hit power band in 4th gear .
you know that the power band just means the entire range of power from least to highest right? That its not an actually physical thing or measurable place, right? You may hit the meatiest or best part IN your power band, but you dont just randomly hit it. Youre always in it as long as the bike is revving.
 

dw

Wiffle Ball ninja
Sep 10, 2001
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heh James, I wish man

I think that project is so rad. Ive always wanted a trials bike. If they sell the things I would buy one.

why not

dw
 

DLo

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Feb 26, 2003
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BurlySurly said:
you know that the power band just means the entire range of power from least to highest right? That its not an actually physical thing or measurable place, right? You may hit the meatiest or best part IN your power band, but you dont just randomly hit it. Youre always in it as long as the bike is revving.
Do you have to get all technical like that? :eviltongu :D
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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So let's see...kids on their bikes imitate MX riders/racers, inspiring BMX, mutating into the freestyle/flatland/ramp stuff, which is paralleled in street BMX riding, with a simultaneous evolution of both MX and BMX dirtjumping as their own niches, and suddenly MX is imitating the BMX bikes, which themselves started off as wannabe MotoX bikes!

That's not to mention the imitation of moto-trials by mountain bikers...

Wow.
 

dfinn

Turbo Monkey
Jul 24, 2003
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BurlySurly said:
you know that the power band just means the entire range of power from least to highest right? That its not an actually physical thing or measurable place, right? You may hit the meatiest or best part IN your power band, but you dont just randomly hit it. Youre always in it as long as the bike is revving.
You know what I mean. I don't really care much about the details but I know that there was a distinct point in my old bikes rpm range where it would start to be really fun (and somewhat out of control).

here's the definition from about.com
Definition: The subjectively defined rpm range over which an engine delivers a substantial fraction of its peak power. The power band usually extends from slightly below the engine's torque peak to slightly above its power peak.
 

Hulkamaniac

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Oct 10, 2001
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dfinn said:
You know what I mean. I don't really care much about the details but I know that there was a distinct point in my old bikes rpm range where it would start to be really fun (and somewhat out of control).

here's the definition from about.com
When I used to work part-time in a moto shop back in my high school days I used to get tons of people coming in to buy or question about a bike that asked me if it had "powerbands". They always referred to it as though it was a special feature of the tranny and would never accept the explanation that I gave them about it only being a term for a noticable "hit" of power in a certain rpm range. I even watched a few rednecks and newbies walk away from amazing deals on a given bike because other shops in the area would play along to their dumbness and tell them the bike had "powerbands".
 

Rik

Turbo Monkey
Nov 6, 2001
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Yeh, dirtbikers talk of "powerband" like it's NAAAAAAWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSS.
At least powerbands don't blow the welds on your intake manifold.
 

zedro

Turbo Monkey
Sep 14, 2001
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Hulkamaniac said:
I even watched a few rednecks and newbies walk away from amazing deals on a given bike because other shops in the area would play along to their dumbness and tell them the bike had "powerbands".
well, its not like you'd be lying if you said it does have a powerband...
 
Jul 17, 2003
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Well if we want to get technical on it, the powerband isn't actually the entire RPM range. Almost every internal combustion engine on the market, diesel engines excluded, hits the torque peak at somewhere between 55% - 65% of the RPM range, and the horsepower peak is usually somewhere between 75% - 90%. If you graph out the horses and the torque on a dyno chart, the area between the two peaks is what is referred to as the powerband. Subaru uses such a chart in their print advertising for the STi, only they call it the "sweet spot" for some reason.

Anyway, short answer, powerband is the RPM range between max torque and max horsepower.
 

dfinn

Turbo Monkey
Jul 24, 2003
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Subaru uses such a chart in their print advertising for the STi
i haven't seen it but i'm guessing that's showing the bump in the torque curve due to boost. similar but different.
 

zedro

Turbo Monkey
Sep 14, 2001
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dfinn said:
i haven't seen it but i'm guessing that's showing the bump in the torque curve due to boost. similar but different.
that 'bump' would be there regardless of boost, since peak torques and HP happen between idle and the redline. The boost would change the curves characteristic between that of a normally aspirated engine.
 

TWISTED

Turbo Monkey
Apr 2, 2004
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Duh! That's not a real motorcycle it's a prop from the next Star Wars movie, "Attack of the Jedi Ewoks North Shore Revenge".

Instead of having Jar Jar Binks, and go after the preschool audience, George Lucas is marketing the next movie toward the "EXTREME" generation of rad teenagers, totally!

A few years ago a friend of mine was working in a motorcycle shop, they had a lot of ummm "interesting " customers. Larry and Ron got some various sized rubber bands, stuck them individually in plastic bags and then made some labels describing the products as "POWERBANDS". Even though the larger rubber bands cost more, they sold out first. There are still some small Powerbands left if anyone needs a new one.