WHOA how did I miss that, where's the link? Thanks!We've seen Minnaar running 10-speed stuff now
again - what's the point?We've seen Minnaar running 10-speed stuff
The point is probably to test SRAM's XX group in a hostile environment.again - what's the point?
selling parts to rich DHers. I'll be looking to pick up some NOS 8-speed stuff. I rarely use all my gears while DHing, and I see little reason to keep narrow spacing, or go even narrower. Makes perfect sense for roadies, makes 0 for dirt riders.again - what's the point?
Until DH becomes big enough for component companies to offer a true "DH" component group, we're always going to be just an off-shoot of XC or at best lumped in with the FR group. Think about it, a true DH group would be something along the lines of 5sp, 10-23t, short cassette spacing so that you could have a wider hub flange and get almost a symmetrical wheel build on a 135x10 spacing. Add in a short but bullet-proof derailleur, enough cable pull to ensure continuous shifting if your hanger gets tweaked, and make everything light and you're done.selling parts to rich DHers. I'll be looking to pick up some NOS 8-speed stuff. I rarely use all my gears while DHing, and I see little reason to keep narrow spacing, or go even narrower. Makes perfect sense for roadies, makes 0 for dirt riders.
yup.selling parts to rich DHers. I'll be looking to pick up some NOS 8-speed stuff. I rarely use all my gears while DHing, and I see little reason to keep narrow spacing, or go even narrower. Makes perfect sense for roadies, makes 0 for dirt riders.
This would be very cool, how many times have you wanted to go up to an easier gear and have fluffed the shift by not pressing it enough or to damn much, I do it all the time! 5 or 6 speed would also be the icing on the cake!yup.
i do, however see the merits of electronic shifting - light-touch shifters (a button on each side - one for upshift, one for down would be cool), w/ no cable stretch or contamination issues ever (esp. rad for we of wet climates). i'm sure they've got the tech to pull off something effective & bomber.
You need to get on the Pointless Bling Bandwagon. Electronic shifting is a good idea because it means more technology. Sheesh. Even a dummy like me can see that.I Seriously cannot see a genuine point.
Moar technology and all the new gimmicks have one big problem. They are VERY easy to break. Firstly they would need it shock resistant(I doubt the system could survive even crashless riding for longer time) and at least a bit hit resistant. Also repairing it on your own would probably be hard (even though I study this damn electro thingys )You need to get on the Pointless Bling Bandwagon. Electronic shifting is a good idea because it means more technology. Sheesh. Even a dummy like me can see that.
Personally, I can't wait until we have shifting powered by nuclear reactor. That will be BADASS.
For the cost lets say x.9/xt if they were low profile (ie. like sram rival ) I would gladly use them. Anything more would be a big no no for something as disposable (tore of my rival this year - just when I thought my days of insta killing derails are over)I wouldnt be surprised if we saw some of the top shimano WC racers using the MTB Di2 on their bikes within the next year or so.
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http://thesebrokenpaths.blogspot.com/2010/05/electronic-shifting-on-downhill-bike-oh.html#more
then install one of these...
Electric shift is not to far away, Campy is coming out with theirs pretty shortly, its going to be very expensive. But I feel Shimano will come down in their price a little bit and try to blow Campy out with theirs. If I was offered to run a MTB Di2 I would run it in an instant.
There is no money in that.It amazes me that shimano or sram haven't developed a DH IG hub.
take your logic elsewhereYou guys go right ahead and smash a $1200 deraileur off a rock. Have fun.
Me, I'd use the money for a gym membership, maybe a training camp, trip to whistler...you know, things that would actually make a difference.
Agreed.You guys go right ahead and smash a $1200 deraileur off a rock. Have fun.
Me, I'd use the money for a gym membership, maybe a training camp, trip to whistler...you know, things that would actually make a difference.
Because custom high end technology to shave .06 seconds off a run has no real relevance to me. From the sidelines sure its cool, but for weekend warriors, its far beyond overkill.Ok so before you guys get your panties in a bunch about spending 1200 on a derailleur that your gonna rip off in 4 seconds. Think about the WC level sponsored riders say at... World Champs. Neko lost Jr World Champs by .06, could he have won if he was using a Di2 derailleur? maybe, who knows but maybe if he was running the Di2 his shifting might have given him that .07 that he needed. Then it would totally be worth the "$1200.00 +" dollars.
Look at Fabian at World Champs, he goes nuts trying to make his bike super efficient. They put in hundreds of hours of dialing in his bike, making 1 off products and what not. Do you guys know how much money goes into that 1 race run? Big companies dont mind paying that extra bit if their rider has a chance of being a World Champion for a year. Trust me.
Why are you guys so quick to write off expensive products that could be the future of racing? Just because you cant afford it doesnt mean its a dumb idea.
Ok so before you guys get your panties in a bunch about spending 1200 on a derailleur that your gonna rip off in 4 seconds. Think about the WC level sponsored riders say at... World Champs. Neko lost Jr World Champs by .06, could he have won if he was using a Di2 derailleur? maybe, who knows but maybe if he was running the Di2 his shifting might have given him that .07 that he needed. Then it would totally be worth the "$1200.00 +" dollars.
Look at Fabian at World Champs, he goes nuts trying to make his bike super efficient. They put in hundreds of hours of dialing in his bike, making 1 off products and what not. Do you guys know how much money goes into that 1 race run? Big companies dont mind paying that extra bit if their rider has a chance of being a World Champion for a year. Trust me.
Why are you guys so quick to write off expensive products that could be the future of racing? Just because you cant afford it doesnt mean its a dumb idea.
Because:Why are you guys so quick to write off expensive products that could be the future of racing? Just because you cant afford it doesnt mean its a dumb idea.
Thats what I was thinking. Hell was pissed when I broke my saint derailleur, I'd go into a week of mourning if I broke a 1200.00 derailleur!!You guys go right ahead and smash a $1200 deraileur off a rock. Have fun.
Me, I'd use the money for a gym membership, maybe a training camp, trip to whistler...you know, things that would actually make a difference.
Stuff derialeurs. Give us a 100mm wide geared hub that can be used inboard as a gearbox with 135mm dishless rear, and spacing to make whatever BB width designers want. Whack electric shifting on it if need be. and if you must keep pushing deraileurs, just bring back the sh!t you already made FFS, 8 speed, so all you need to make is a nice new shifter for us , and ideally a lightweight bolted together type cassette with sprockets sold seperately, so we can make our own custom gearing to suit us, and where we ride.