i cant figure out a way to get my ladder ride 5ft off the ground without it being really wably.any suggestions.im gonna have 130ft of2/4s to make it with and its not ghonna be any more then 50ft long.
how should i get my ladder ride off the ground
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Get a 4ft tall friend to hold it over his head while you huck huck huck your way to happiness.
duct tape
all his friends are probably under 48inkidwoo said:
Well first you can detonite some explosives under it which should lift it into the air sufficiently as well as blowing it to smithereens. Now you are free to ride your bike on a actual trail the way it was meant to be; rather than on a "stunt" like a circus clown....... 
<---- hating on stunts since 2001
<---- hating on stunts since 2001
wow, you guys really know how to treat the newbs....... 
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youre smart :love:Toshi said:being mean to newbies and having little tolerance for stupidity are two entirely distinct matters
thanks for all the help.how bout i get all of u to come to my house and stand under it thenlet me blow it to smitherenes!!! come on help me.and dromond i bet the reason that u hate stunts is cause u had a bad reck cause usuck at riding!
hey can u help me!!!!
I hate stunts around my way because they're the latest fad, are usually poorly constructed, offer no real purpose, and pollute the environment. Plus they usually draw enough attention for the authorities to justify closing down the trail.face planter said:
It's all about appropriate use of constructions. A ladder for the sake of a ladder is dumb. And if you don't know how to build it, then don't. You're putting yourself and others at risk if you use substandard construction techniques, and you risk having a trail shut down, which ruins it for everyone.
Take a look at the pictures on the Northstar photogallery and see how they built there's...They might be cemented but the design is good within itself.
And also..anybody here in a downhill forum who is pissed off by ladders seriously deserves to be shot. Stunts are a bad thing now?
Also to the idiot who says ladders pollute the environment IMBA did a study that showed it was less harful because it kept the bikes off the topsoil more. Go look on their website if you don't believe me.
And also..anybody here in a downhill forum who is pissed off by ladders seriously deserves to be shot. Stunts are a bad thing now?
Also to the idiot who says ladders pollute the environment IMBA did a study that showed it was less harful because it kept the bikes off the topsoil more. Go look on their website if you don't believe me.
theres two sides to every coin. yeh they keep us off the top soil but when you look at what a stunt out in the woods is made of its made from trees that have been choped down. now that can be a good thing if done right but its never done right so both sides have a good argurment. and if you are a newb dont correct a more experianced rider just cause he stated his opinion thats what this forum is here for. ohh and for the record i love stunts there so much fun and they bring a new aspect to ridin. they work on your technical skill when it comes to balance. peace and keep ridin
Do you think painted and treated construction material should be littered throughout the trails? I'm a real idiot when I worry about trail closures because the place looks like a dump...
You got it!
The4AssedMonkey said:
well thanks for the help and keep the help comin.cYa
hey could some1 tell me what ther northstar website is cause i cant find it.
looky here
face planter said:
The4AssedMonkey said:
So does a freeway overpass. Doesn't mean it's pretty to look at or that it enhances the existing evironment.
face planter said:
Funny you mention it. I actually stood there at my local mountain at the top of the new "log ride" trail and watched all the freeriders fall on their ass attempting it... then rode the first section first try on my long ass downhill bike
People talk about people looking like circus clowns on a bmx bike.... cumon; "skinnies"? Gimme a break. They are boring and make a perfectly good trail choppy and slow. Build whatever you want in your own backyard....
Since when does downhill have to include stunts? How many teeter-totters have you seen on a norba or wc course? Weee flame warThe4AssedMonkey said:
Toshi said:being mean to newbies and having little tolerance for stupidity are two entirely distinct matters
a cave man could figure out how to support 2 logs with some slats across it. use your head bro... :eviltonguhey im wanting this to be very sturdy and very strong i know how to get it ff the ground but i just could not figure out how tomake it sturdy!!!
face planter said:
This is not the place to ask, go to www.nsmb.com. Properly built ladders and "stunts" enhance the trail and in allot of cases up here lifts you up and over ecologically sensitive bits-o-land.
Ill translate thisface planter said:
Hi,
i want these ladders to be very sturdy and very strong, i know how to get them off the ground, but what i could not figure out is how to make them sturdy
thanks
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<rant>me89 said:
Okay, since this thread is somewhat derailled, I have this to say:
You imply that when stunts are made out of trees that aren't chopped down, that it's a good thing, but you go on to say that it is never done that way, so it's automatically bad. To say that it's a good thing WHEN stunts are built with deadfall, and then go onto say that it simply never happens is completely illogical. Go watch the bonus footage at the end of Quick and Dirty.
Also, if you're a n00b, and you're right, it is perfectly okay to correct a more experienced rider if they're wrong. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here, just that experience isn't the determinator of truth.
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I agree totally with what's being said here... either go learn some basic construction skills from someone, or don't build the stunts, especially in a public place. Oftentimes kids who weigh 120 will build stunts that are "sturdy" until someone who weighs 210 rides it, and it collapses, injuring the rider badly. If you don't know, it's not okay to experiment. This is not an area where mistakes are okay. I hate to discourage you from building trails, but really, if you're going to do some work on a trail, build a trail out of dirt, or a short ladder over an obstacle... try not to get creative and make a NS style ladder. Keep it simple, as the more complex it gets, the more dangerous it is, and the more building skill is required.
Best solution yet: Donate your wood to someone who knows how to build stunts.
Rik said:
Or, you could let people ride them because they think they are fun. and how do they pollute the environment? Just because you dont like riding somthing, doesnt mean that you have to put others down because they do. Riding is riding, you should be glad he is out supporting the sport, not inside dicking around on the internet and watching TV getting fat.
And how do you think people learn to build stuff? they are born that way? No, there is a learning curve, and asking questions before building shows that he DOES care about the saftey of others and himself, because he doesnt want it to be wobbly and unsafe.
I am not saying this directly to you either, I just happened to quote your statement. I dont understand why there has to be this hatred against other riders that are supporting the same sport you are
Simmons, Schley, Berrecloth, and all the others, I would say are DAMN GOOD riders, better than anyone on this board. But because they ride stunts does that make them dumb?
As far as keeping your ladder up off the ground, like was said earlier, do not use 2x4. Get some 4x4 or 6x6 and dig it into the ground 3+ feet. Then brace them with 2x4. Also, please do not screw/nail directly into living trees. It is bad for them.
just my 2 cents
thanks bigmike that is what im thinking i dont see why people have to be buttholes!i am building it on my property and im gonna let other people ride it and im gonna ride it alot and i want it to be safe and sturdy.and could u keep the posts coming but dont be a butthole and the way that most of u are being is a great way to make people think that our sport is full of buttholes and that could make them not wanta be involved with it.so keep that in mind when u start throin all this hatred at a newb.
face planter said:
Priceless.face planter said:
Good general trail building info:
http://www.nsmba.bc.ca/cms/index.php?option=displaypage&Itemid=52&op=page&SubMenu=
(and a great orginazation to belong to if you EVER ride or plan on riding the shore)
Here is a link to the Whistler Stunt Trail Standards. I recommend that if you don't plan on meeting these standards, you don't build on public trails... Build whatever you want in your own back yard.
http://www.whistlercycling.org/pdf/trail-standards.pdf
http://www.nsmba.bc.ca/cms/index.php?option=displaypage&Itemid=52&op=page&SubMenu=
(and a great orginazation to belong to if you EVER ride or plan on riding the shore)
Here is a link to the Whistler Stunt Trail Standards. I recommend that if you don't plan on meeting these standards, you don't build on public trails... Build whatever you want in your own back yard.
http://www.whistlercycling.org/pdf/trail-standards.pdf