thanks bigmike that is what im thinking i dont see why people have to be buttholes!i am building it on my property and im gonna let other people ride it and im gonna ride it alot and i want it to be safe and sturdy.and could u keep the posts coming but dont be a butthole and the way that most of u are being is a great way to make people think that our sport is full of buttholes and that could make them not wanta be involved with it.so keep that in mind when u start throin all this hatred at a newb.
I sent you a PM. Some of the stuff in it has already been said here, but that was because I only read page one of this thread : . Still, it might help.
Are you buying the wood yourself?
I would never do that, I just go to construction sites and get free wood. I have over 200 feet of ladders in my woods and have not spent any money at all on anything, not even nails!
This post by dwaugh, at neilan11's house. Good luck!
Please allow me to translate: "Based on my original question -- that of how to construct proper and safe ladder bridges -- your link to Dangerous Dan's Flowriders site, while quite interesting and enjoyable, was not helpful. Thank you very much for your effort, though."
And you sound like an undereducated adolescent posterchild for the campaign to increase government funding to education.
I don't mean that offensively, but incorrect spelling, grammar and sentence structure are not something to be proud of.
And sorry I was so discouraging to you (if you indeed take my post that way), but I have broken many ladders and stunts that were poorly built by kids who didn't know what they were doing. Build the stunts way stronger than you think you should.
Also, do you really think it's a good idea to encourage stealing from construction companies? Why not just use deadfall in the forest, and split it with a hatchet and a hammer until you have flat pieces (like Dangerous Dan)? It's cheaper, more natural and affords better traction in wet conditions (nothing like a wet processed 2x4, or worse yet, wet plywood).
I would use 4x4 for the vertical parts and 2x4 for the bracing. I actually use 2x4 for all of it but the 4x4 would be much more stable. Also dig the virticle parts into the ground 6-12" into the ground for added stability.
I just finished a good length of ladders that is about 3-4' in the air, I will take some pictures when I get the chance and post them.
When did I say they weren't fun, when did I say I didn't like riding it? and that I wanted to stop people riding constructions? In fact, I love the challenge of a good skinny, and for some crazy reason, my balance seems to be one of my better skills right now.
But there is a factor of appropriate use of construction. I am talking about where I ride, which I can guarantee is vastly different to what you ride. Trail constructions pollute the environment, be it treated offcuts scattered about, trees cut down to make way for constructions, or just the presence of the construction which can be seen as "pollution" by other land users.
Where I ride, as I said, I haven't come accross a really useful trail construction yet. I love the terrain around here, it's very challenging as is. Right now we have alot of erosion issues, as well as land access issues. It's a shame that people aren't motivated to solve those problems, yet they're more than happy to copy their latest DVD heroes and build all sorts of stunts. But interestingly enough, I'm sure the erosion issues I mentioned could be countered through creative and intelligent constructions, alas it never seems to happen where I ride.
The issue of safety is a very big issue. I've had a few crashes due to poorly built constructions, as have my riding friends. I never want to see that sort of thing happen to anyone, and it also opens up huge problems with liability and land access again. But to learn how to make strong, safe constructions? Get taught first hand, through other, experienced builders, or even through an adult learning course. In my mind, and I say it about alot of things from bicycle repairs to trail constructions, if you don't know how to do it, and you don't have anyone to show you first hand, don't do it at all. It's not the best view, I know, as I love learning, and I'd like to see more people learn for themselves. But at the same time, when there's safety issues for yourself and other people, I hope the job is going to be first rate.
To sum up my thoughts... if the construction is going to add something unique to the trail, if it's going to be built well, with regular maintainence, and it's not going to create impact on the environment, then go for it. But if it isn't going, then you'd probably be better off picking up a shovel and doing some trail maintainence, instead, of creating new things which will just end up being problems in the future. These are my own views formed from what I've seen around my riding area, and I understand that other areas have vastly different issues... but please, if you're going to do it, do it right for you and for everyone else.
I'm going to stop ranting now, as I'm sure my dinner is now burnt!
shipping pallets work good , you can construct a-frames out of them and set your bridge across them , i usually space em about 10-12 ft apart , turn your bridge platform 2x4's vertical and it will be rock solid - i have a 50 footer in my backyard - it has held up for 3 years
ok i dont know here i can get someshipping pallets but iwilltry to get some.thanks for all the help and please keep it comin.and erikkellison u should not judge peoplewhen u dont even know them.i know idont alwaysuse proper grammar and punctuation but u havent even talked to me any really.
Dude, your poor spelling and grammar distracts from the intent of yoru posts. If you haven't noticed yet you're the only one who is using adolescent white boy ebonics on this board. I'm not trying to come across as high and mighty, but on this board it's not commonplace to misspell intentionally, which you must be doing at this point. Seriously who spells "you" with a single letter without knowing it. If it really takes you so long to type it's actually faster to think about how you can misspell a word to reduce its character count, then I'd strongly suggest a begginer typing course, you'll find that it'll be quite helpful later in life if you ever plan on working outside the fast food industry.
One does not have to know you to judge you, you're portraying yourself as an ignoramus in a public forum, the image you present rather real or fabricated is what we all see. People here are spending their own time to try and help you out despite your slight typing skills and general dissreguard for grammar, it is common courtesy to respond to them in the same way. You'll find that the more you take time to thoughtfully and carefully post questions the more people will be willing to give you straight up answers.
As far as pallets go, the lumber is usually a very poor grade, I've seen a lot that are smashed to pieces during shipping, which is what they are intended to be used for. I've heared that in europe pallets are made better, if you've only got a few euros in your pocket you might check that out, here in the western hemisphere pallets should be an absolute last resort for construction materials. The wood is very brittle and knotty, you'd be as well off using MDF or particle board.
man this is what it is like EVERYWHERE i go!!!
(and i probably spelled that wrong to)
and it sucks cause im a slow typer and no i dont spend extra time just figuring out ways to have to type less.and i am tryin to get better at typin and i am in a little online thingy ok.so could you look past how i type and just answer me.
and you are a pro at turning people away from forums.
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