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$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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Md. Judge Dismisses Sex-Abuse Charges (Clerk Is Unable To Find Suitable Translator In Time)
A 7-year-old girl said she had been raped and repeatedly molested over the course of a year. Police in Montgomery County, acting on information from a relative, soon arrested a Liberian immigrant living in Gaithersburg. They marshaled witnesses and DNA evidence to prepare for trial.

What was missing -- for much of the nearly three years that followed -- was an interpreter fluent in the suspect's native language. A judge recently dropped the charges, not because she found that Mahamu Kanneh had been wrongly accused but because repeated delays in the case had, in her view, violated his right to a speedy trial.
if nothing else, we are a nation of rights.
 

LordOpie

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Oct 17, 2002
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Kanneh spent one night in jail and was released on a $10,000 bond with the restriction that he have no contact with minors. He later waived his right to a speedy trial -- in Maryland, defendants have a right to be tried within 180 days following an indictment -- because the defense wanted time to conduct its own analysis of DNA evidence. That waiver was effective only until the next trial date, Chernosky argued in court.
How did Kanneh (the accused/defendant) understand what bail was or that part of the release agreement was for him to stay away from minors?

The state noted that Kanneh attended high school and community college in Montgomery and spoke to detectives in English. The defense insisted that he needed an interpreter to fully understand the proceedings.
How could he have graduated High School with passing grades to allow him to go to Community College if he didn't have at least 10th english skills?

Couldn't they get teachers to tesitify that he spoke English well enough?

Sounds to me like his lawyers advised him to pretend he didn't speak English. If they can get Kanneh on tape speaking English, his lawyers should be disbarred and sent to jail for obstruction of justice.


Plus, someone needs to put a bullet in that sick fvck's head -- assuming the evidence was overwhelming.
 

Silver

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Jul 20, 2002
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Seems pretty simple here...the father of the girl basically has carte blanche to do anything he wants to the guy. I'd castrate him, and then dump him in front of an emergency room with his cock in his mouth.

Then when he complained to the police, I'd simply point out that he can't speak English...
 

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Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
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and they wonder why it's hard to keep good people in law enforcement. what's the point of doing good work in this field when the suspects have more rights than the victims?
Stepping back from the emotional content of this case, is it realy true that suspects have more rights than victims? Surely everyone has the same rights?
 

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Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
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Well, the same rights apply to everyone in a particular situation no? (Unless you're not a US citizen, in which case you have fewer rights.)

It is part of the system of justice that the accused should have rights that allow them a fair trial to prevent innocent people being incarcerated. No system is perfect but it seems that here it may simply be that the people running the system screwed up.
 

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Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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and they wonder why it's hard to keep good people in law enforcement. what's the point of doing good work in this field when the suspects have more rights than the victims?
Oh please, your country has a higher percentage of its population behind bars than just about anywhere else bar China, Iran and North Korea. You routinely execute the retarded, juveniles and the poor. You send people away for longer periods for lesser crimes than just about anywhere else and it's the criminals that have all the rights? You have absolutely got to be f*cking kidding me. It seems to me the crims are getting well and truly f*cked over in America.
 

MMike

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Sep 5, 2001
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Oh please, your country has a higher percentage of its population behind bars than just about anywhere else bar China, Iran and North Korea. You routinely execute the retarded, juveniles and the poor. You send people away for longer periods for lesser crimes than just about anywhere else and it's the criminals that have all the rights? You have absolutely got to be f*cking kidding me. It seems to me the crims are getting well and truly f*cked over in America.
But OJ balances it out....

...oh and Scooter Libby.
 

$tinkle

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Oh please, your country has a higher percentage of its population behind bars than just about anywhere else bar China, Iran and North Korea. You routinely execute the retarded, juveniles and the poor. You send people away for longer periods for lesser crimes than just about anywhere else and it's the criminals that have all the rights? You have absolutely got to be f*cking kidding me. It seems to me the crims are getting well and truly f*cked over in America.
why all the froth? someone swap in the placebos?

{ (freedom == money) && (money == freedom) }
 

stinkyboy

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Oh please, your country has a higher percentage of its population behind bars than just about anywhere else bar China, Iran and North Korea. You routinely execute the retarded, juveniles and the poor. You send people away for longer periods for lesser crimes than just about anywhere else and it's the criminals that have all the rights? You have absolutely got to be f*cking kidding me. It seems to me the crims are getting well and truly f*cked over in America.
:clapping:
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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ok, now it's time to ask a direct question:

anyone here - or anyone close to anyone here - ever been a victim of a crime? if so, when justice was meted out, did you feel it was too harsh?

yes, you tarts, i'm appealing to emotion.
 

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Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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why all the froth? someone swap in the placebos?

{ (freedom == money) && (money == freedom) }
Well it seems like this bloke probably on balance got away with it, but fair suck of the sauce bottle, you well know that when someone gets the shaft it's gonna be the "crim" 99% of the time. To suggest otherwise is to ignore the evidence of your ever growing jail industry.
 

LordOpie

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Oct 17, 2002
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Stepping back from the emotional content of this case, is it realy true that suspects have more rights than victims? Surely everyone has the same rights?
In the courts, I don't think victims have any rights at all as they're not on trial. Someone who knows more can chime in, but they're represented by the state and have no say in the matter. They can always sue civilally, but that's just for money, not jail time.
 

Frorider1

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Apr 28, 2006
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Oh please, your country has a higher percentage of its population behind bars than just about anywhere else bar China, Iran and North Korea. You routinely execute the retarded, juveniles and the poor. You send people away for longer periods for lesser crimes than just about anywhere else and it's the criminals that have all the rights? You have absolutely got to be f*cking kidding me. It seems to me the crims are getting well and truly f*cked over in America.
When a person can kill someone and get away with it becuase they are famous, then yeah I would say that the criminals have more rights. Or when a rapest or child molester can molest a 5 or 6 or whatever year old then go to jail for just 5 years for it then yeah I would say criminals have more rights. Minorities have more rights, mentally challenged people have more rights. Pretty much if you can say you are being treated unfairly becuase of something you are(different races, mentally disabilities) or are associatied with (religion etc) then you have more rights then someone who isnt a minority or a certain religion.

Manimal is 100% correct, when police work their asses off to catch a guy then his case gets dismissed becuase the sick f*cks trial is taking too long then yeah i would say criminals have more rights then the victims.
 

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Monkey Turbo
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ok, now it's time to ask a direct question:

anyone here - or anyone close to anyone here - ever been a victim of a crime? if so, when justice was meted out, did you feel it was too harsh?

yes, you tarts, i'm appealing to emotion.
I've not personally been a victim of a violent crime that required punishment. I have been close to people who have been victims of truly horrible violent crimes and without compunction I would have meted out violent retribution myself had the opportunity arisen.

I am not in favour of the death penalty, though I do see a certain justice therein; I am not in favour as I feel that sooner or later innocent people would be executed. Life imprisonment for murder is my preference.

Having typed all that, there are certain crimes that are too heavily punished on occasion. If I were to counterfeit substantil sums of money for my personal use I would be liable for a sentence greater than that for murder. How can that be right?

Also you cannot remove the right to a fair trial in the name of justice simply because you desire revenge.
 

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Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
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In the courts, I don't think victims have any rights at all as they're not on trial. Someone who knows more can chime in, but they're represented by the state and have no say in the matter. They can always sue civilally, but that's just for money, not jail time.
But that's the point - they have the same rights - it is simply that they are not on trial and they are not at risk of losing said rights.

What is more important is that money appears to buy you a better shot at acquittal.
 

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Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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When a person can kill someone and get away with it becuase they are famous, then yeah I would say that the criminals have more rights. Or when a rapest or child molester can molest a 5 or 6 or whatever year old then go to jail for just 5 years for it then yeah I would say criminals have more rights. Minorities have more rights, mentally challenged people have more rights. Pretty much if you can say you are being treated unfairly becuase of something you are(different races, mentally disabilities) or are associatied with (religion etc) then you have more rights then someone who isnt a minority or a certain religion.

Manimal is 100% correct, when police work their asses off to catch a guy then his case gets dismissed becuase the sick f*cks trial is taking too long then yeah i would say criminals have more rights then the victims.
Please join planet reality. The jails are full of minorities and the mentally challenged. They don't get any special dispensation, in fact a fair arguement can be made that they get it worse than anyone. One case does not a trend make.
 

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Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
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When a person can kill someone and get away with it becuase they are famous, then yeah I would say that the criminals have more rights. Or when a rapest or child molester can molest a 5 or 6 or whatever year old then go to jail for just 5 years for it then yeah I would say criminals have more rights. Minorities have more rights, mentally challenged people have more rights. Pretty much if you can say you are being treated unfairly becuase of something you are(different races, mentally disabilities) or are associatied with (religion etc) then you have more rights then someone who isnt a minority or a certain religion.

Manimal is 100% correct, when police work their asses off to catch a guy then his case gets dismissed becuase the sick f*cks trial is taking too long then yeah i would say criminals have more rights then the victims.

You're confusing rights and justice - in the case of OJ money and fame enabled himto (apparently) escape justice. If sentencing is too light then that is a justice issue, not a rights issue - incarceration is a loss of rights. The victim suffers but loses no rights (and I have no desire to minimise the effects, rape is a particularly horrible crime) and arguably does not see justice done.

Minorities and the handicapped do not have more rights, but they have those rights more strongly protected at times because historically they have had them removed too easily. That is an attempt at justice that may occasionally cause problems.
 

Frorider1

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Apr 28, 2006
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You're confusing rights and justice - in the case of OJ money and fame enabled himto (apparently) escape justice. If sentencing is too light then that is a justice issue, not a rights issue - incarceration is a loss of rights. The victim suffers but loses no rights (and I have no desire to minimise the effects, rape is a particularly horrible crime) and arguably does not see justice done.

Minorities and the handicapped do not have more rights, but they have those rights more strongly protected at times because historically they have had them removed too easily. That is an attempt at justice that may occasionally cause problems.

I see what your saying, and I agree with it.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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Well it seems like this bloke probably on balance got away with it, but fair suck of the sauce bottle, you well know that when someone gets the shaft it's gonna be the "crim" 99% of the time. To suggest otherwise is to ignore the evidence of your ever growing jail industry.
having been both a perpetrator & victim of various crimes, i can anecdotally assert this is not the case. nevermind the "propaganda" of DNA & video "evidence" which seems to be more prevalent in shining a light on the truth when "shafting the crims".

but feel free to continue to carry that torch & march in front of korean markets.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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I am not in favour of the death penalty, though I do see a certain justice therein; I am not in favour as I feel that sooner or later innocent people would be executed. Life imprisonment for murder is my preference.
agreeance
Having typed all that, there are certain crimes that are too heavily punished on occasion. If I were to counterfeit substantil sums of money for my personal use I would be liable for a sentence greater than that for murder. How can that be right?
certain possession of drug crimes, too. in this respect, i feel our nation is too focused on judgment, and not prevention & rehabilitation.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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Please join planet reality. The jails are full of minorities and the mentally challenged. They don't get any special dispensation, in fact a fair arguement can be made that they get it worse than anyone. One case does not a trend make.
i could make the same case the judicial system is sexist, for the same proportions exist along gender lines.

you think better on drugs. or when you listen to Seal.
 

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Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
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The lower echelons of society will get the rough end of the stick for various reasons including less access to decent legal representation, less influence and general prejudice.

Doesn't make them all innocent, but then not everyone who's not in prison is innocent either.
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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but feel free to continue to carry that torch & march in front of korean markets.
F*cked if I know what this means but te-hee-f*cking-hee.
Feel free to ignore the fact your country incarcerates more people than any other comparable country and keeps doing it. That is giving people the shaft. Lock 'em up first last and always, wonderful solution.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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certain possession of drug crimes, too. in this respect, i feel our nation is too focused on judgment, and not prevention & rehabilitation.
The drug use laws here are the worst.

It makes zero sense to spend money and resources on putting a user in jail.

I'm just talking about using, not crimes that are sometimes associated with it.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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Feel free to ignore the fact your country incarcerates more people than any other comparable country and keeps doing it.
i don't ignore it; i embrace it. it's called leadership by example. we can't expect other nations uphold certain judicial standards we don't do ourselves, now can we?
valve bouncer said:
That is giving people the shaft. Lock 'em up first last and always, wonderful solution.
but not the final one. don't we get 1/2 cred for that? but speaking of, if the demographics are skewed, would you suggest throwing a few jews, japs, & abbos in the clink to make sure everything's even-stephen?
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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i don't ignore it; i embrace it. it's called leadership by example. we can't expect other nations uphold certain judicial standards we don't do ourselves, now can we?
but not the final one. don't we get 1/2 cred for that? but speaking of, if the demographics are skewed, would you suggest throwing a few jews, japs, & abbos in the clink to make sure everything's even-stephen?
You're not funny tonight. Maybe I should try a different drug.