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how well has the stock market done under GWB?

narlus

Eastcoast Softcore
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behind the viewfinder
front page of yesterday's WSJ says :plthumbsdown:
"The stock market is trading right where it was nine years ago. Stocks, long touted as the best investment for the long term, have been one of the worst investments over the nine-year period, trounced even by lowly Treasury bonds".
"When dividends and inflation are factored into returns, the S&P 500 has risen an average of just 1.3% a year over the past 10 years, well below the historical norm, according to Morningstar Inc. For the past nine years, it has fallen 0.37% a year, and for the past eight, it is off 1.4% a year".
another glowing testimonial to GWB's performance. and this from his own right wing.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
really? i saw a decline of the market when the dem's took control of congress alonq with a huge increase in the cost of oil.
 

ire

Turbo Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
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9/11 has a lot to do with those figures. The market went in the toilet after that. The fact that we have been fighting two wars doesn't help either.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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You must be the guy who gets in the "7 items or less" express line with 244 cans of cat food, and says it's OK because they are all the same item.
it's b/c of bush's economy i have to eat cat food, but at least it's fancy feast
 

H8R

Cranky Pants
Nov 10, 2004
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really? i saw a decline of the market when the dem's took control of congress alonq with a huge increase in the cost of oil.
They don't call him "Big Picture n8" for nothing.
 

H8R

Cranky Pants
Nov 10, 2004
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9/11 has a lot to do with those figures. The market went in the toilet after that. The fact that we have been fighting two wars doesn't help either.
All on GWB's watch.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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funny how some types acknowledge we were simultaneously fighting the japs, germans, italians, all on multiple fronts in both eastern & western hemispheres, and comfortably & correctly call that a singular "world war", yet this is somehow starkly different.
 

skinny mike

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Jan 24, 2005
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funny how some types acknowledge we were simultaneously fighting the japs, germans, italians, all on multiple fronts in both eastern & western hemispheres, and comfortably & correctly call that a singular "world war", yet this is somehow starkly different.
you're kidding me, right?

you're equating the war on terror and the iraq war with world war 2?
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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how would you identify the entity which is being fought in the gwot?
is it also present in iraq?
why should it now be categorized as separate & distinct?
 

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
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Brilliant. You can further reduced the number of wars we fought in if you just call a bunch of them the Cold War too:think:
 

Secret Squirrel

There is no Justice!
Dec 21, 2004
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Up sh*t creek, without a paddle
how would you identify the entity which is being fought in the gwot?
is it also present in iraq?
why should it now be categorized as separate & distinct?
Uh...because there was....

hold on...big boy pants time...

NO F*CKING LINK TO AL QAIDA WITH REGARDS TO IRAQ.

We went to Afghanistan with the purpose to get Osama and al Qaida.
Some might still think we went into Iraq with the same purpose (al Qaida) ....BUT....

hold on...big boy pants again...

IT WAS A LIE. NO LINK BETWEEN THE TWO ACTUALLY EXISTED.

It does now because of the....

hold on....

BIG F*CKING POWER VACUUM...

That's why it's two separate instances. I continue to view it as two separate fronts.

We continue to bomb caves and get the shaft from mountain goats in one area.
We ousted a #1 a-hole and put a country into civil war in another.

They do not go hand in hand like GerItalApan.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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when i bring up WWdeucebigalo, it's not to assert congruence, but to demonstrate strong correlation.

strong enough for john kerry to connect the dots when he was campaigning for prez last go around.

funny how so many anti-bush types in congress (a.k.a. non-lieberman democrats) bemoan the "iraq war", but in spite of being in control of both chambers in congress, have yet to do anything short of "emboldening" our war president. not one bit of wartime funding legislation has ever failed to make it off the hill.

now why is that?
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
Pick at least one!

1. they were for the war before they were against it.

2. that soap-dish IQ'ed Bush tricked them into voting for war stuff.

3. only voted for war funding because of the troops (ok, for re-election purposes).

4. anti-war voters are so stoned that congress can blame everything on Bush.. yeah.. Bush did it!!!
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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After watching the Frontline show, I no longer blame GWB. He is an idiot and only does what he is told. I would argue that over the course of his presidency that the only choice he ever made on his own, was to eat pretzels and that nearly killed him.

You can't blame the mentally incapable.
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
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After watching the Frontline show, I no longer blame GWB. He is an idiot and only does what he is told. I would argue that over the course of his presidency that the only choice he ever made on his own, was to eat pretzels and that nearly killed him.

You can't blame the mentally incapable.
He still deserves blame...in a just world he'd be tried and hung just like his good buddy Saddam.

How do you choke on a piece of snack food that comes with an existing airhole anyways?
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
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Pick at least one!

1. they were for the war before they were against it.

2. that soap-dish IQ'ed Bush tricked them into voting for war stuff.

3. only voted for war funding because of the troops (ok, for re-election purposes).

4. anti-war voters are so stoned that congress can blame everything on Bush.. yeah.. Bush did it!!!
I'll choose:

5. we'll be granted as liberators - McCain
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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funny how so many anti-bush types in congress (a.k.a. non-lieberman democrats) bemoan the "iraq war", but in spite of being in control of both chambers in congress, have yet to do anything short of "emboldening" our war president. not one bit of wartime funding legislation has ever failed to make it off the hill.

now why is that?
you're spot on. the dems are not anti-war except to garner votes.

this doesn't justify the war, however, but instead just shows how useless both parties are.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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After watching the Frontline show, I no longer blame GWB. He is an idiot and only does what he is told. I would argue that over the course of his presidency that the only choice he ever made on his own, was to eat pretzels and that nearly killed him.

You can't blame the mentally incapable.
i wouldn't go so far to say he was an idiot, but he was out of his league, and heavily manipulated. i don't believe any other electable conservative would have faired better.
 

Secret Squirrel

There is no Justice!
Dec 21, 2004
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I'm with Toshi on this one. The peeps getting the votes whore themselves out to whatever demographic they need to to stay where they are. (Someone once said, "It's good to be King.")

Of course there's a "strong correlation" where someone wants there to be one....just look at any of Renegade Rick's comments in any thread...Conspiracy Theory 101.

What I was trying to get at is that "strong correlation" doesn't equal "what the hell really happened".

Plus, the only good use for connect the dots is to spell "BOOBS". Just like 4004+4004 on a calculator.