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I've seen it happen in two cases.
1) Guy was riding his bike, He got hit by a car, Thats what his bike looked like after.
2) Guy was riding up in B.C. and snapped it. Not really sure how it happened, but i saw the after shot in some magazine
1) Guy was riding his bike, He got hit by a car, Thats what his bike looked like after.
2) Guy was riding up in B.C. and snapped it. Not really sure how it happened, but i saw the after shot in some magazine
The tubes could have had flaws which made them thinner in certain spots. I work at a welding shop and in theory if you weld correctly the weld should be just about as strong as the metal. When I worked at a bike shop I saw a bike like that and it was hit by a car. I have never seen that happen while riding.
saw something similar where a guy took a wrong turn and flew 15 or so feet to flat without expecting it. He landed in such a way that the Boxxer was unscathed but the Stab Primo had completly folded in half at that same point in the frame (guess the heavier gage tube didnt allow for a complete shearing, but the stress area appears to be the same)
just ridin' along and..........
it says trail "the highway"
rider" the highway"
rider" the highway"
maybe his nickname is "THE HIGHWAY"???? hahaha
It happened on a trail called highway at Blue Mountain in Collingwood Ontario. This run is short, but extremely high speed. If I recall correctly he crashed at high speed and when he looked at his bike the tubes were slightly crumpled. He kept riding the bike for a week or so after (not dh) and the bike eventually snapped in half.
The Highway trail is at Blue Mtn.... We have hit speeds in the low 40(mph) Its for the most part stright down the face... other than that there is a 3 foot kicker that lofts you up and over the next rise....
I have seen 2 santa cruzes do that. A bullet and there DJ hard tail
the bike...uhhh yeah...nickaziz said:
my friends famliy has broke 3 Santa Cruz Tazomonds. one broke in half on a big ass table top that he thought he was going to clear but he was about a foot to short, he was noised in and i snaped i half. another one was like 3 foot drop and some how, i dont know how but he crashed on it and there was a small hair line crack on it. an the other one they found three cracks on it when they striped the paint off cause they were going the paint it.
they all were at the head tub
they all were at the head tub
I saw a Tomac 98 do that. I was hanging out on a trail by a little 2 foot kicker built against a log, and a guy with the Tomac went for it. He was clipped into his pedals, and his rear tire got caught up on the log as his front went over- instant nose dive. With the pressure of his arms on the bars and his feet on the pedals, the top tube and down tube just snapped. Then again, it was a race bike, not a Kona.
when my friend broke the one in half on the table top he was cliped in too. it might have something to do with it but i dont know
OMG DudR i hurd that he suxs at bikng and stff! obvously he suks i do big gapz like 15+ ftt and pinkdyke!!!DßR said:One time, like, my freind? Wel, he liek did this jump? An i dunno I guess he sux0red it ro somethign like that lol and well he breaked his bike an d crashed hardd! lol
I've clocked 80km/h on the "Highway" dropin and probably hit the wedge jump at about 65km/h (uphill to it). You could land very hard off that if you lofted it on a hardtail considering it's an uphill landing.
The 1st Pic attached shows the run-in to the jump and a buddy launching off it with a little tweak.
The 2nd pic is a horribly blurred shot of team Mountain Cycle rider Terry Leimonis airing it, you can sorta see the ground at the bottom of pic.
The 1st Pic attached shows the run-in to the jump and a buddy launching off it with a little tweak.
The 2nd pic is a horribly blurred shot of team Mountain Cycle rider Terry Leimonis airing it, you can sorta see the ground at the bottom of pic.
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Breakage like this can happen on drops to flat -loading docks can do it with the wrong landing - and as was mentioned before, casing a jump. At least these are the situations I've seen it happen. Last guy I saw break a frame like this stuck it hard on a double and did not get back up. Got a luxury ride to the hospital though.
This is a good reason to ride steel frames. They don't snap like that (although they can snap at the welds).
This is a good reason to ride steel frames. They don't snap like that (although they can snap at the welds).
I have seen three santa cruz bikes and two konas (three now) snap like that. That's where companies like cannondale, rocky mountain and specialized just blow other companies away with their inhouse testing labs. Lots of companies just do whateve's to get bikes out there but some companies go the extra mile and actually do tests that tell them how long it will take a bike to break with certain pressures applied to it. I support those companies-they want me to live. 
Yeah, I've never seen a Cannondale or a Rocky breakHeath Sherratt said:I have seen three santa cruz bikes and two konas (three now) snap like that. That's where companies like cannondale, rocky mountain and specialized just blow other companies away with their inhouse testing labs. Lots of companies just do whateve's to get bikes out there but some companies go the extra mile and actually do tests that tell them how long it will take a bike to break with certain pressures applied to it. I support those companies-they want me to live.
Stop talking about stuff you don't know.
Yeah, cannondale frames have never broken, that crack 'n fail nickname was pureley coincidental. As for Rocky Mountain the whole joke about if there will be a RM7 for freeriding was another joke that was completely unfounded as well. Fact of the matter is, the only bike I can think of that has never been broken is the Evil Imperial, and even there I am probablly just be out of the loop.
Fact of the matter is, the only bike I can think of that has never been broken is the Evil Imperial, and even there I am probablly just be out of the loop.
OOPS, I meant to say, support your LBS, they'll sell you a mediocre bike because they are miss-informed and honestly believe that the brand they carry is superior.
As has been said before on this board: ANY bike can break in a catastrophic fashion if the right forces are applied. From the looks of that pic, it was one or both of these problems: a materials/tubing problem that was just a manufacturing issue or (more likely) some incredibly bad crash that would have killed most anything.Heath Sherratt said:I have seen three santa cruz bikes and two konas (three now) snap like that. That's where companies like cannondale, rocky mountain and specialized just blow other companies away with their inhouse testing labs. Lots of companies just do whateve's to get bikes out there but some companies go the extra mile and actually do tests that tell them how long it will take a bike to break with certain pressures applied to it. I support those companies-they want me to live.
I am NOT saying that c-dale, rocky or specialized are break proof. I said they do a lot of testing to try and reduce breakage. They also typically break in non-life threatening areas as compared to sheered headtubes-probably the most dangerous break a bike can have. I am not trying to offend anyone or start brand whore wars-just stating that there are companies who go out of their way to try and make strong-well built, safe bikes.
What exactly makes you think cannondale, rocky mountain or specialized does any more testing than giant, trek, kona, norco, or any of the other big brands? Have you seen inside the facilities of each of these manufacturers or are you speaking opinions?
you've never seen the pics of p.3's with the exact same damage?
I pity the fool who trusts blindly!
I pity the fool who trusts blindly!
well, i can say Kona at least doesnt it seems....Kornphlake said:
Well Heath implied that tested frames don't break and then said cannondale, rocky mountain and specialized tests their frames. Now you're saying that kona's break so they must not be tested.Zedro said:
so going back to my days of logical proofs....
If A then B
If B then not C
therefore if C then not A
where
A= testing
B= strength
C= not breaking
So if I've seen a cannondale break then I can assume it was not tested.
....zedro must be stupid, right?Kornphlake said:
i never said it was because they break (and i ddnt say anything at all), i am aware enough of my surroundings to know that others do. This has to with some insider info, in particular the Stinky9 which was released by the company despite the designer not even having finished designing the damn thing, and additionally where a local rider was consistantly blowing up the rocker plates and where i was asked by him to design new ones, and discovered a HUGE flaw in the design which confirmed why and how they were blowing up (Kona kept promising a newly designed set, he opted for a Primo instead). Also if you pay particular attention to their half-year models or new release models, you may notice some design oddities where they seem to be 'testing' some some things out.
zedro said:
I didn't mean Zedro is stupid, I meant that even tested designs can and do break, and Heath's implication that cannondale, specialized and rocky frames are stronger because somebody told him they are tested is absurd. If he is assuming that because he's seen a broken kona they aren't tested then one must also assume that a broken specialized, cannondale or rocky mountain means that they have not been tested either.
You do bring up an interesting anecdote about the Stinky 9. I wasn't aware of that, although I've never been overly affectionate toward Konas.
I shouldn't have quoted you I guess.
He never said konas are not tested, He jest said thoes ones are never did he say THOES AND ONLY THOES
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