Just SUV owners? There's a lot of "proof" on the roads on a daily basis regardless of vehicle driven, that stronger and more frequent driving skills tests should be administered.BigMike said:I really think they should implement a driving course before you can buy an SUV. They should make you pass tests on driving in parking lots, PARKING in parking lots, paralell parking (BIG one for me, especially in the city!) and knowing the limits of U-Turns. I hate when a little 30 somthing women parks her H2 in the Kroger Parking lot, taking up two spaces, and when she backs out of the space doesnt know how to use her mirrors and can't see anyone behind her. Or the guys who buy one to be cool and then can't park it in the city.
Thrillkil said:The M998 is the only real option, if you're buying a hummer
Half of that is correct. The other half is very very very wrong. Oh yeah. 0 problems with my Colorado.MMike said:It's based on the Colorado/Avalanche chassis
is the crotchgrab of yr avatar for emphasis?douglas said:suv haters are arseholes
gschuette said:You are still very very very wrong. No Avalanche platform for the H3.
Instead, the H3 gets a naturally aspirated 3.5-liter five from its Chevrolet Colorado/GMC Canyon platform mates, with whom it shares 10 to 15 percent of its components, according to Hummer officials.
H8R said:16/20 mpg estimated by GM on the H3.
Reality puts it closer to 12/16 I would reckon.
What a crapchunk.
ummbikes said:Bottom line. The H2 is capable of thriving in Moab, the Rubicon, .
MMike said:I'm trail rated. I'd just like to take this opportunity to point that out.
So I am sure you spotted some H3 test mules going the distance then didn't you?kidwoo said:The rubicon trail is about 5 miles from my house.
I could beleive an H3. It's actually a truck.gschuette said:So I am sure you spotted some H3 test mules going the distance then didn't you?
I've done the trail twice in a jeep and once all the way through on a bike. And other than the group I saw turning around (of about 15 H2s) I never saw anything even closely resembling the ineptness of a long wheelbased hummer. But I'm not one of the locals, I have too many teeth.gschuette said:I know what you said. I was just wondering if you saw the H3s.
kidwoo said:I've done the trail twice in a jeep and once all the way through on a bike. And other than the group I saw turning around (of about 15 H2s) I never saw anything even closely resembling the ineptness of a long wheelbased hummer. But I'm not one of the locals, I have too many teeth.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever been on that trail? There are spots so tight that even a jeep has to do 12 point turns......and gets scraped. I'd personally love to see an H3 try to get through little sluice box or up cadillac hill. Those are seriously the only times I've ever been scared in an automobile (partly because I didn't own it. )
I got curious and I found little press release bits of an h3 test vehicle with nothing more than larger tires but do you know if one them made it all the way through? If so I must say I'm still impressed. They're no h2 but still seem too large to get through some of the spots I remember.
Here's me discussing my freedom to completely fvck up my dad's jeep.MMike said:Sounds to me like you hate freedom.
I found some pictures, and they definitely went to the loon lake end. I recognize some of the areas but not the gnarly ones.maxyedor said:GM says that the h3 is rubicon trail tested they never tell you if it passed the test. If you realy want to off-road in style go buy a Land Rover Disco, used of course.
No not at all. I think they're much more reasonable vehicles than the h2s just from the looks of them. It's more like I'd like the shake the hand of anyone who actually could drive an h3 all the way through.....and also slap GM for saying it's "rubicon rated"gschuette said:No I have never been on the Rubicon. I have done quite a few 4+ Jeep trails in Moab. I have been a wee bit scared out there before though. I heard that the H3 mules made it all the way to the end and back again. I know Grand Cheerokees make it and the H3 isn't much bigger than that if it is even bigger at all. It should fit in the tight spots and I know that it has the cpapbility and gearing to get there. There is just a lot of I hate the H2 because _______ so therefore the H3 is a piece of crap. So sorry if I came across slightly hostile.