OK - so here's a silly question:
What the hell is P.E.D.?
What the hell is P.E.D.?
i did steroids
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If taking steroids would give me a better chance at getting Red Sox tickets, I might consider it.
Why does the government care about major league baseball? Do you know what kind of revenues these franchises make? Look at all the merchandising they do. This isn't about sports, this is about BUSINESS.
Something I'd like to point out, Major League Baseball is EXEMPT from virtually all anti-trust and anti-monopoly laws (including the Sherman Anti-Trust Act).
Something I'd like to point out, Major League Baseball is EXEMPT from virtually all anti-trust and anti-monopoly laws (including the Sherman Anti-Trust Act).
Where the heck is the money coming from in baseball? I don't know a single person who cares enough to even watch a game on TV, much less go to a game or buy merch.
I still think they should just let those guys go wild and make baseball into a sport of modded-out monsters that live about 8 years. Steroids, cybernetic enhancements, whatever.
I still think they should just let those guys go wild and make baseball into a sport of modded-out monsters that live about 8 years. Steroids, cybernetic enhancements, whatever.
@ Johnkranked: Exactly, that's why Congress cares.
Still don't understand why anybody else gives a **** about MLB.
They should just legalize everything. It would be like the All Drug Olympics:Hulu - Saturday Night Live: Weekend Update: All Drug Olympics@@AMEPARAM@@http://www.hulu.com/embed/SX1NU3DYknwC6EuBZxdH_Q@@AMEPARAM@@SX1NU3DYknwC6EuBZxdH_Q
Now that would be worth watching.
Still don't understand why anybody else gives a **** about MLB.
They should just legalize everything. It would be like the All Drug Olympics:Hulu - Saturday Night Live: Weekend Update: All Drug Olympics@@AMEPARAM@@http://www.hulu.com/embed/SX1NU3DYknwC6EuBZxdH_Q@@AMEPARAM@@SX1NU3DYknwC6EuBZxdH_Q
Now that would be worth watching.
I think the cross section of people you know might be biased. People up here in the greater NYC metro area go simply APESH*T for baseball.
Yet no one cares if DeeTrey down at Mcdonalds is hulking up on steroids, whacked out on speed or high on mountain dew......or even the 'meat' can be drugged to excess, yet there's no fuss or congressional questioning of a big mac or DeeTrey
& i'm sure mcd's makes more than baseball
Even the two bonkers sports fanatics I know, who will literally watch curling in the off season, won't watch it because it's "boring" and "corrupt"
#1 - that's cuz DeeTrey is only pullin' minimum wage and he's an at-will employee. He doesn't have a multi-year contract worth 8 figures.
#2 - the food industry does what it wants to the meat b/c they've been in bed with congress since the early 1900's (does the name upton sinclair ring a bell?)
#3 - McD's does NOT make more than baseball. McDonald's profit in 2008 was only $4.3 billion, in 2007 MLB (as a whole) made profits in excess of $6 billion. Couldn't find the 2008 numbers for MLB to make a direct comparison. Couldn't 2009 numbers either, guess they haven't been published yet.
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Some say it does: http://www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/doping.asp
I was talking about men. A woman's place is in the kitchen, everyone knows that.
Little known fact: when God put Adam to sleep, he took several ribs from him even though he only needed one to make Eve. Why? Because he had a hankerin' for some Memphis BBQ.I was talking about men. A woman's place is in the kitchen, everyone knows that.
you eat **** for breakfast?
Anyone who thinks that any professional athlete isn't doping is out of their mind.
Baseball, Hockey, Basketball, Football, etc. They are all on the 'roids, it's just that the average american is too uneducated to be able to pick out a roid user.
You could line up 10 guys of equal size, 9/10 not using, and throw 1 roid user in the mix and it should be night and day clear as to which one he is...but 99% can't figure that out.
I'm with Cooter. I don't see why the government fails on so many levels, yet maintains that it should help regulate a game. There, I said it, it's just a game.
That got juice picture is Classic! hahaha
who said they are regulating the game????I'm with Cooter. I don't see why the government fails on so many levels, yet maintains that it should help regulate a game. There, I said it, it's just a game.
MLB does random testing at random times for their players. the government doesnt have a narc in there watching over their shoulders.
Regulate was a bad word. I don't see the need in congressional hearings. It's illegal, or it's not. Congress has better things to worry about. Or, more important, IMO.
And I understand it's business, but it's not the government's job to keep a watchful eye to make sure someone's not stealing from a business. Much like it's not their business in baseball.
When our country runs smoothly, without deficit, I'll see about amending this opinion.
When our country runs smoothly, without deficit, I'll see about amending this opinion.
Curling is not a sport.
i couldnt agree more. MLB and every other major sport is a business and should be run as a business. all business matters should be handled within the "company" and not have government suits stepping in making a mockery of the whole process.
it appears your out of your mind?
i am and dont call me Shirley.
it also appears that you are as well...thinking all pro athletes are juicing. i guess all those pro athletes found out how to beat those random, unannounced drug tests too huh?
i bet you think there was a second shooter at Dealey Plaza too huh?
I dunno where the hell dealey plaza is.
Roid users are not on constant cycles, using steroids 24/7 a day.
Most pro athletes HAVE juiced, and WILL juice again. I did not say all pro athletes stuck needles in their asses this morning on the way to work.
Most college football players are juicing, MANY high school athletes are juicing.
Hell, many amature athletes are juicing, and for what? a $12 trophy?
do you have any information supporting your conspiracy theory?? because i know several ex-professional athletes who didnt juice....and maybe they are ex-pros because they didnt, but your statement is pretty damn broad saying most of them juiced
Wait...is it all, or most??? Your accusations seem to conflict.
I could concede that many do it, but most or all seem to not work in my mind.
I think lots of professional cyclists do it. Hell, I even think Lance did at one time, but I don't think all of them do it. The results just don't reflect it.
Heck you'd shoot up the Juice if it meant you could have another Beer
There was ! No way LHW could get off those 3 rounds that fast with accuracy at that range.
Last I heard, it's still in the olympics, which is more than you can say for baseball.
he was a Marine.
which is total bullsh!t. they should ditch walking before baseball/softball
hopefully in 2016 it will come back
I actually lived next to a professional athlete that I don't believe juiced, but at that point in time I was too young to really understand roids and all that jazz.
No, I don't have any statistical facts, I've seen things, in different sports, locker rooms, gyms, etc that lead me to my opinions.
All would be pretty broad, and unfair. Most I don't think is too out of line, but then that would include all the guys who were on the team for a week, a season, etc who never played, barely made the team, and didn't juice.Wait...is it all, or most??? Your accusations seem to conflict.
I could concede that many do it, but most or all seem to not work in my mind.
I think lots of professional cyclists do it. Hell, I even think Lance did at one time, but I don't think all of them do it. The results just don't reflect it.
I'll say that in my belief MOST professional athletes who have any sort of sustainable career or are at all considered good HAVE, ARE and WILL juice at multiple times throughout their careers.
Athletes that I have called out long before any sort of accusations arose from the media do include mr. macguire, roger clemens, barry bonds, sammy sosa, sean merriman, A-Rod, and tiger woods. Each of those guys has either admitted to the use, or has enough smoke surrounding him that it's obvious (except maybe tiger, though I still believe he was juicing at some point).
I've called out others, but my point is if those guys are juicing, don't be surprised that many others have juiced or are juicing as well.
Other guys not proven to juice who i think will either get caught or admit some day, Brock Lesnar, George St. Pierre, Lance, Ben Wallace, LeBron, Favre, etc.
There is no point in giving a damn if charlie batch juiced, but after 10 years in the league, playing for EMU, then making it with the lions and steelers, I'm betting the dude juiced. But with his hall of fame numbers who cares? Guys like this are the reason that a lot of roid use flies under the radar and john Q public doesnt know anything about it...he's not good enough to care if he juiced.
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Are you serious?
Specifically about baseball players, most of them have taken amphetamines, commonly known as greenies. It is hard to go the bars, shack up, then be ready for an one o'clock game.
Given the long and rigorous season, I believe many but possibly not most, have taken HGH and testosterone. Also some are on the full program of steroids as well.
Yes, I have no proof except for admissions by guys like Pettite, A-Rod, Bonds, and this list grows longer and longer.
However, as a casual fan, it was obvious, totally obvious these guys were juicing. Now imagine I was in the locker room with these guys and how they performed directly affected my playing time and my paycheck.
Would I not notice the "special trainers"? The 25 lb build-up in 6 months? Mood swings? Blemishes? Track marks?
Would I consider getting on the juice then?
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so that comment basically makes your argument null and void.
that you like seeing men naked?
Yes he was a Marine ( and Probably a KGB spy ) , and trained but , 4.5 seconds from a bolt action rifle, you can barely operate the bolt, and fire in that amount of time , then having to take aim and fire at 200+ yards, to hit the moving targets with that much accuracy I'm sorry I don't buy it.
and of course lets not forget the Magic Bullet not going straight.
You know, modern ballistics have proven all of this was possible. At least the most current History Channel special.
because I lived next to a guy when I was in the 6th grade who was a not very good hockey player who I don't think juiced just for the simple fact that I was too young to pay attention at the time?
My current opinion is much like Sanjuro's....in my opinion most of those guys are out there juicing. But I'm more aware of it then I was when I was 11