[Toshi]

y'all are unskilled. take that

 

[Ascentrek]

Woot iraq, while your there visit israel. See how quickly you can die!

Statistically speaking, you're more likely to die in America due to viloent crimes than in Israel.

 

[Ascentrek]

upwards of 70 hours per week... ok, not what I want, but for a year? hell, I could take a full year off from work afterwards.

graphic design in MS Word, Excel, Powerpoint... ugh, but whatever.

oh... must be available to work directly with Commanding General in Iraq. Are you available for transfer to Iraq on April 26, 2006?

Is this part of Bush's exit plan? implement pretty graphics disguising the microsoft virus and load it onto Iraqi machines?

 

[PonySoldier]

As a former M1/M1A1 gunner on a tank and a Geographer I would say that the Military portion of my education played as big a part in my first 2 jobs in the GIS/Remote sensing Biz as did my degree. As John E says being able to perform a job under pressure is of some value in the job market.

 

[binary visions]

As John E says being able to perform a job under pressure is of some value in the job market.

It's also a valuable asset in the dating scene

 

[DRB]

They are grunts who's only job is to sling bullets towards the enemy as fast and accurately as they can. Sure it takes guts and it takes training and pratice but it isn't skilled labour.

Being a web designer takes training and practice but I'd say that since y'all are dime a dozen there isn't much skill to it.

 

[Transcend]

Being a web designer takes training and practice but I'd say that since y'all are dime a dozen there isn't much skill to it.

Not when only a handfull are decent. Any 14 year old next door can slap together a webpage, it isn't hard. Coding to standards and the design/navigation aspect are something most people seemingly do not get however. And if by dime a dozen, you mean I can charge $175/hr and no one complains, then sure I'll agree to that too.

edit: and as an added bonus, I don't have to get shot at while doing it.

 

[stinkyboy]

Hey, if you are about to be beheaded on camera, you better not go out sniveling and begging like a little baby. You better get your shots in at least.

 

[binary visions]

Being a web designer takes training and practice but I'd say that since y'all are dime a dozen there isn't much skill to it.

Heeeerre fishy fishy fishy...

 

[DRB]

Not when only a handfull are decent. Any 14 year old next door can slap together a webpage, it isn't hard. Coding to standards and the design/navigation aspect are something most people seemingly do not get however. And if by dime a dozen, you mean I can charge $175/hr and no one complains, then sure I'll agree to that too.

edit: and as an added bonus, I don't have to get shot at while doing it.

A handful? What's the quantity of a handful for web designers? 15 or 20. Or maybe 10000 or maybe a 100000? Please you're about as exclusive as mice.

 

[Transcend]

A handful? What's the quantity of a handful for web designers? 15 or 20. Or maybe 10000 or maybe a 100000? Please you're about as exclusive as mice.

Sure, then next time I'm sure microsoft will hire the 14 year old next door to do theirs.

Edit: There's some bitter unkilled labour out there.

 

[Westy]

My company has a office in India with several hundred web designers that go for about $5 an hour.

 

[JRB]

My company has a office in India with several hundred web designers that go for about $5 an hour.

Apparently they think they are worth more in Canada.

 

[Transcend]

My company has a office in India with several hundred web designers that go for about $5 an hour.

Most do, they suck because no one wants to deal with India anymore. Hence the reason those of us over here who know what's up can charge ridiculous amounts of money.

 

[binary visions]

Sure, then next time I'm sure microsoft will hire the 14 year old next door to do theirs.

Edit: There's some bitter unkilled labour out there.

I'VE GOT YOU NOW, LITTLE FISHY.

 

[Transcend]

I'VE GOT YOU NOW, LITTLE FISHY.

Nope, I just like pissing off the unskilled labour and bitter ex military members who risked their lives for $5 an hour.

 

[Westy]

Most do, they suck because no one wants to deal with India anymore. Hence the reason those of us over here who know what's up can charge ridiculous amounts of money.

This isn't a contract company, actual corporate offices in India. Same with our IT support. They do a pretty good job, no more difficult to deal with than if they were just in another state. Most difficulties stem from stupid corporate red tape more than distance/language.

 

[DRB]

This isn't a contract company, actual corporate offices in India. Same with our IT support. They do a pretty good job, no more difficult to deal with than if they were just in another state. Most difficulties stem from stupid corporate red tape more than distance/language.

But they could never be as skilled and great as Transcend. He charges $175/hr. That tells you right away how great he is.

 

[LordOpie]

Edit: There's some bitter unkilled labour out there.

typos are funny

 

[JRB]

Nope, I just like pissing off the unskilled labour and bitter ex military members who risked their lives for $5 an hour.

It's cool - I am gonna prank call you on your cell phone for fun though.

 

[Transcend]

typos are funny

holy crap, i missed that one.

 

[Echo]

Just for the record, I was a computer technician in the Navy, I did everything from micro-miniature repairs to circuit boards, to software debugging, to troubleshooting and repair of damn near every piece of electronic equipment on the ship. Can't very well call in NEC's service rep when the cash register in the ship's store stops working in the middle of the Pacific ocean, nope, you call the data systems guys. That and once I made grade I was managing people. All for the same pay as the dude carrying ropes around below decks. That's mainly why I got out. But to say I was unskilled labor is just f*cking clueless.

 

[Westy]

But they could never be as skilled and great as Transcend. He charges $175/hr. That tells you right away how great he is.

I charge $1000/hour to have sex with Miss America contestants.

 

[partsbara]

But they could never be as skilled and great as Transcend. He charges $175/hr. That tells you right away how great he is.

can t you just let the little man have his moment... he is the greatest web designer in the world...

:devil:

transcend - you certainally do have a very high opinion of yourself... unlike the majority of canucks i ve met...

 

[JRB]

I charge $1000/hour to have sex with Miss America contestants.

hahaha - nice

 

[Transcend]

But they could never be as skilled and great as Transcend. He charges $175/hr. That tells you right away how great he is.

Nope, it tells you what people are willing to pay for skilled labour who never spent time in the military.

 

[DRB]

I charge $1000/hour to have sex with Miss America contestants.

Now that's skilled labor. Or is unskilled and just don't worry about repeat business.

 

[Westy]

Now that's skilled labor. Or is unskilled and just don't worry about repeat business.

Mainly marketing hype to promote my morning after hygene products.

 

[Transcend]

Just for the record, I was a computer technician in the Navy, I did everything from micro-miniature repairs to circuit boards, to software debugging, to troubleshooting and repair of damn near every piece of electronic equipment on the ship. Can't very well call in NEC's service rep when the cash register in the ship's store stops working in the middle of the Pacific ocean, nope, you call the data systems guys. That and once I made grade I was managing people. All for the same pay as the dude carrying ropes around below decks. That's mainly why I got out. But to say I was unskilled labor is just f*cking clueless.

Not sure who you are responding to, but if you read my post I pointed out that some of the jobs do carry over. Those who do join and go into this field clearly don't do it for the money.

To be clear, the guys hauling ropes are indeed unskilled labour.

 

[Echo]

Nope, it tells you what people are willing to pay for skilled labour who never spent time in the military.

So are you saying that if you had served in the military, you would somehow not be able to charge $175 per hour anymore?

 

[Transcend]

can t you just let the little man have his moment... he is the greatest web designer in the world...

:devil:

transcend - you certainally do have a very high opinion of yourself... unlike the majority of canucks i ve met...

And you certainly are an a**hole, unlike the majority of aussies I've met, so we're even.

 

[JRB]

I imagine Transcend getting up every morning and singing "I'm too sexy for my shirt" every day.


*I can't wait for justsomeguy to come along and tell me how inadequate I am now.

 

[SK6]

Someone for got to add,

Loco Sucks.


Thank you. That is all.

 

[Transcend]

So are you saying that if you had served in the military, you would somehow not be able to charge $175 per hour anymore?

Nope, saying that if i had been in the military I may have been doing the same thing for $5 an hour - which would have been pretty silly. (unless the military gave me the free education to learn the skill, then I couldn't complain much could I...)

 

[JRB]

Not sure who you are responding to, but if you read my post I pointed out that some of the jobs due carry over. Those who do join and go into this field clearly don't do it for the money.

To be clear, the guys hauling ropes are indeed unskilled labour.

How much will it cost to carry them over???


*nice typo

dammit

 

[Transcend]

I imagine Transcend getting up every morning and singing "I'm too sexy for my shirt" every day.


*I can't wait for justsomeguy to come along and tell me how inadequate I am now.

I do a little dance on the catwalk.

 

[partsbara]

And you certainly are an a**hole, unlike the majority of aussies I've met, so we're even.

small man big mouth...

 

[JRB]

And you certainly are an a**hole, unlike the majority of aussies I've met, so we're even.

In all fairness - he is practicing to be a California lib now.

 

[Echo]

To be clear, the guys hauling ropes are indeed unskilled labour.

Like I said, that's why I got out. Generally my theory is this: People who have the aptitude to get out and make something of themselves, do. People who are socially or technically inept, stay in. I hate to say it but with the way they structure pay, that's what you end up with. What computer nerd with half a brain would stay in there and get paid the same as the dude who cooks his breakfast?

 

[JRB]

I do a little dance on the catwalk.

Do you do "blue steel" or "magnum"???