[MMike]

Ok here's the plan. The freakos want to arm everyone right? So I thinkthere should be a ...say 5 year pilot project. Pick one of the redneck states that wants to do this, and let 'em. Get a good state too, with lots of crime and racial tension and let's see what happens. Maybe they will prove themselves right.....or they wipe themselves out. I don't see how we lose either way......

 

[Westy]

Thanks MMike. I was just thinking what this forum needs is a thread on gun control.

 

[MMike]

Your very welcome. I was.....heyyyyyyy.....wait a second... you're not being sincere are you.....

 

[Kihaji]

Ok here's the plan. The freakos want to arm everyone right? So I thinkthere should be a ...say 5 year pilot project. Pick one of the redneck states that wants to do this, and let 'em. Get a good state too, with lots of crime and racial tension and let's see what happens. Maybe they will prove themselves right.....or they wipe themselves out. I don't see how we lose either way......

We call it Texas.

 

[MikeD]

Yeah, this plan has been in place since like 1776.

The "rebel against a government when you think it's tyrannical" hasn't ever worked out so well, however.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

We call it Texas.

In Texas, they have signs all over the place forbidding carrying, and I believe that it's legally enforceable.

Vermont doesn't.

 

[MikeD]

The only thing someone can do if you're noticed carrying in a privately owned place posted as "no carry" is ask you to leave. If you don't, they can call the police, who can cite you for (I think) trespassing if you're around when they arrive.

 

[$tinkle]

Get a good state too, with lots of crime and racial tension and let's see what happens. Maybe they will prove themselves right.....or they wipe themselves out. I don't see how we lose either way......

why do you think racial tension is a necessity? iirc, the most highly concentrated incidents of illegal gunfire - and therefore criminality - happens in homogenous areas.

not that it could hurt...

 

[MMike]

It's not REQUIRED perse....it just might make it that much better.

 

[$tinkle]

It's not REQUIRED perse....it just might make it that much better.

your desire for instant gratification has 'mericanised you.

oh, and i think you have raleigh-durham nc, atlanta ga, or birmingham al, in mind. (richmond va turned cambodian in the late 80's & holds promise, too) this experiment has been playing out for decades, and has grown faster than most blue chips. stay tuned.

 

[kidwoo]

The "rebel against a government when you think it's tyrannical" hasn't ever worked out so well, however.

Problem is that most of the gun totin rednecks are in support of the the most tyrannical enforcers of late.....

 

[Red Rabbit]

God Danm. The goverment should not take control Guns. The gun was not responisble for the shooting. Owning a gun does not mean you are going to shoot someone. A lot of poeple own guns, but not every gun has shot someone. In fact, most guns have not shot someone.

 

[Red Rabbit]

Actaully no guns have shot anyone, they have been used to shoot poeple.

 

[sanjuro]

I believe what we need is to slowly tighten gun control, like over the course of 20 years, and reduce the violence on tv/film/video games, via the ratings board and social commentary.

Laugh if you will, but dumb ideas like recycling and reducing smoking were done like that.

 

[MMike]

Actaully no guns have shot anyone, they have been used to shoot poeple.

That's deep

 

[$tinkle]

I believe what we need is to slowly tighten gun control, like over the course of 20 years, and reduce the violence on tv/film/video games, via the ratings board and social commentary.

Laugh if you will, but dumb ideas like recycling and quitting smoking were done like that.

kinda like the way bloomberg handled the whole smoking thing? ...and now x-fats?

you're a nazified nazipants.

i think we should turn all guns into varying forms of pipes. kill 2 birds while stoned.

 

[ohio]

i think we should turn all guns into varying forms of pipes. kill 2 birds while stoned.

Had a buddy in highschool that was way into the military before he was way into pot... ended up turning his bazooka (yes, bazooka) into a killer 3 ft bong.

He once brought a (real, but not live) grenade into elementary school, and made a video in 6th grade of himself handling a teargas cannister but his gas mask was too big for him and it leaked in and he yacked inside it. It was an awesome video.

 

[ohio]

God Danm. The goverment should not take control Guns. The gun was not responisble for the shooting. Owning a gun does not mean you are going to shoot someone. A lot of poeple own guns, but not every gun has shot someone. In fact, most guns have not shot someone.

Can't argue with that...

 

[$tinkle]

Had a buddy in highschool that was way into the military before he was way into pot... ended up turning his bazooka (yes, bazooka) into a killer 3 ft bong.

you went to h.s. w/ llkoolkeg? at least you had safe hallways.

 

[binary visions]

made a video in 6th grade of himself handling a teargas cannister but his gas mask was too big for him and it leaked in and he yacked inside it. It was an awesome video.

That's almost the best thing I've read all day... Fantastic!

 

[jonKranked]

ted nugent has an interesting idea...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/19/commentary.nugent/index.html



I'm trying to find another article on this topic regarding switzerland. one interesting point of the article is how they have one of the lowest national crime rates worldwide, and how almost every house hold has a fully automatic weapon loaded and ready to go at all times.


edit: found it: http://www.drudge.com/news/93463/self-defense-switzerland

 

[ohio]

one interesting point of the article is how they have one of the lowest national crime rates worldwide, and how almost every house hold has a fully automatic weapon loaded and ready to go at all times.[/url]

They're also fiercely nationalistic, universally wealthy and culturally homogenous.

I love how gun advocates are all about how it's not the guns it's the culture whenever there's gun violence, but are happy to ignore cultural context where there isn't gun violence.

 

[Kihaji]

They're also fiercely nationalistic, universally wealthy and culturally homogenous.

I love how gun advocates are all about how it's not the guns it's the culture whenever there's gun violence, but are happy to ignore cultural context where there isn't gun violence.

You mean sort of how everyone tries and put the "Well in Europe they do it so the US can"?

Oh, wait, it only works when you want it to right?

 

[ohio]

You mean sort of how everyone tries and put the "Well in Europe they do it so the US can"?

Oh, wait, it only works when you want it to right?

Give me a minute while I sigh the sigh I always sigh when responding to you.

*sigh*

Switzerland happens to be a horrific example for the reasons I mentioned. "Europe," however, is not the same thing as Switzerland, and portions of Europe are very good analogies to the US for both good and bad policy, with the proper caveats. For example, France and England both have large immigrant communities, , and have done very mixed jobs of dealing with them... something we can learn from.

Did I mention you're a douche?

 

[kidwoo]

They're also fiercely nationalistic, universally wealthy and culturally homogenous.

Don't forget sexy.

They don't feel oppressed because they're all just so darn attractive one gets alienated.

 

[dhbuilder]

gun control rules.

i was at the range this afternoon.
45 semi-auto.
47 out of 50 on the target at 50yds.

 

[Kihaji]

Give me a minute while I sigh the sigh I always sigh when responding to you.

*sigh*

Switzerland happens to be a horrific example for the reasons I mentioned. "Europe," however, is not the same thing as Switzerland, and portions of Europe are very good analogies to the US for both good and bad policy, with the proper caveats. For example, France and England both have large immigrant communities, , and have done very mixed jobs of dealing with them... something we can learn from.

Did I mention you're a douche?

Yeah, because countries that don't have a <Population density, government, values, culture, immigrant influx, history, economic profile, education, economic/population makeup> is such a good basis.

Oh, and if you want to base how the US should treat its immigrants to a place like France, did you forget that recently the immigrant population of France freaking rioted for pretty much the entire summer because the French people and government crapped all over them?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Yeah, because countries that don't have a <Population density, government, values, culture, immigrant influx, history, economic profile, education, economic/population makeup> is such a good basis.

Oh, and if you want to base how the US should treat its immigrants to a place like France, did you forget that recently the immigrant population of France freaking rioted for pretty much the entire summer because the French people and government crapped all over them?

Do you intentionally not comprehend what people say? You might want to read Ohio's post again...only this time, try understanding the words that are on the screen. Let me refresh your memory:

For example, France and England both have large immigrant communities, , and have done very mixed jobs of dealing with them... something we can learn from.

Now, I've brought attention to the salient points by bolding the text. Now look at the underlined, bolded, and italicized text. What about that didn't you understand from the first read through...

Try again, junior...

 

[ultraNoob]

gun control rules.

i was at the range this afternoon.
45 semi-auto.
47 out of 50 on the target at 50yds.

Yes! I agree!
True gun control is hitting your target.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Yes! I agree!
True gun control is hitting your target.

the golden rule: he who has the guns makes the rules

 

[MMike]

gun control rules.

i was at the range this afternoon.
45 semi-auto.
47 out of 50 on the target at 50yds.

Is it because your small weiner doesn't throw off your weaver stance?

 

[Kihaji]

Now, I've brought attention to the salient points by bolding the text. Now look at the underlined, bolded, and italicized text. What about that didn't you understand from the first read through...

Try again, junior...

Mixed means they did something right, and I don't know what planet you live on, but a summer of rioting where stories of years of what essentially is segregation doesn't sound like anything right to me. Plus, we already went through that lesson ~40 years ago.

So, once again, if we are already ahead of them, why in hell should we use them as an example of what we should do, and what we could learn?

 

[sanjuro]

kinda like the way bloomberg handled the whole smoking thing? ...and now x-fats?

you're a nazified nazipants.

NY taxes on cigarettes makes it $8 a pack and there is no smoking in bars for about 10 years now. I think NY is doing well.

Do we need gun control? Did anything happen with a handgun last week? Or is the plan is to do nothing and hope people stop shooting each other?

BTW, much stricter laws for insane and criminals might be a good idea. If gun and ammo taxes needs to be raised to create a database, so be it.

 

[sanjuro]

the golden rule: he who has the guns makes the rules

I can I quote you if Hilary wins?

 

[Changleen]

Or is the plan to do nothing and hope people stop shooting each other?

Sanjuro is right. This is essentially the gun control people's plan. lthumbsdown:

 

[syadasti]

Mixed means they did something right, and I don't know what planet you live on, but a summer of rioting where stories of years of what essentially is segregation doesn't sound like anything right to me. Plus, we already went through that lesson ~40 years ago.

So, once again, if we are already ahead of them, why in hell should we use them as an example of what we should do, and what we could learn?

Thats what the rest of the world said after Katrina too. We aren't ahead of France.

 

[Da Peach]

gun control rules.

i was at the range this afternoon.
45 semi-auto.
47 out of 50 on the target at 50yds.

musta been the weaver stance

Damn...too late...

 

[ATOMICFIREBALL]

AAWW, does MMike want to take away aw the bang,bangs & make this place into Telletubby land...
No, maybe you like the world like in the movie Demolition Man.Smoking is BANNED,Guns are BANNED,sex is BANNED,cursing is BANNED,everyone wears gay robes it looks like,etc,etc...LOL

I think i'll go out & blast my 12 guage now in my back yard,because i can !I pack a 9mm usually & shoot competetions to stay sharp.

Yes dhbuilder is ok in my book. He totes his .45 & likes to shoot...

 

[MMike]

Uhhhhhh......

AAWW, does MMike want to take away aw the bang,bangs & make this place into Telletubby land...
No, maybe you like the world like in the movie Demolition Man.Smoking is BANNED,Guns are BANNED,sex is BANNED,cursing is BANNED,everyone wears gay robes it looks like,etc,etc...LOL

I think i'll go out & blast my 12 guage now in my back yard,because i can !I pack a 9mm usually & shoot competetions to stay sharp.

Yes dhbuilder is ok in my book. He totes his .45 & likes to shoot...

 

[binary visions]

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