[N8 v2.0]

You should have to pass a test to get into this forum

how boring would that be???

there would be no one in here but ohio

 

[valve bouncer]

You should have to pass a test to get into this forum

I dunno, if ya wanna know what it's like to be a giant, hang out with midgets.

 

[binary visions]

how boring would that be???

there would be no one in here but ohio

It doesn't have to be a hard test. Just hard enough to make sure someone can form a coherent thought and write it down ledgibly.

Or copy & paste someone else's thought

 

[N8 v2.0]

It doesn't have to be a hard test. Just hard enough to make sure someone can form a coherent thought and write it down ledgibly.

Or copy & paste someone else's thought

what's this "copy & paste" you speak of?

 

[MikeD]

I dunno, if ya wanna know what it's like to be a giant, hang out with midgets.

Are there giant midgets, too?

 

[Westy]

They're also fiercely nationalistic, universally wealthy and culturally homogenous.

I love how gun advocates are all about how it's not the guns it's the culture whenever there's gun violence, but are happy to ignore cultural context where there isn't gun violence.

Sweden also has a huge domestic violence problem. You don't need to use guns when you are just smacking around chicks.

 

[binary visions]

Sweden also has a huge domestic violence problem. You don't need to use guns when you are just smacking around chicks.

The chicks are hot, blonde and let you smack 'em around?

Sh*t. I'm moving.

 

[$tinkle]

BTW, much stricter laws for insane and criminals might be a good idea. If gun and ammo taxes needs to be raised to create a database, so be it.

and checking every container coming off the ships into long beach would be a good idea as well. point is, this would quickly be realized as intractable & the good gun-totin' folks wouldn't stand for it, and no legislator would survive so much as floating this idea.

in concept, i agree: more traceability. but we're a nation of half-measures on this topic. there's too much population at the poles of this debate. we're caught in a race-condition waiting for the other side to make the first big move.

 

[ohio]

Yes dhbuilder is ok in my book. He totes his .45 & likes to shoot...

Do you two practice the weaver stance together?

 

[Silver]

Do you two practice the weaver stance together?

Is that the new red state bathhouse code? Ted Haggard asked me that once...

 

[DRB]

gun control = only criminals have guns

I love that one.

 

[ohio]

Mixed means they did something right, and I don't know what planet you live on, but a summer of rioting where stories of years of what essentially is segregation doesn't sound like anything right to me. Plus, we already went through that lesson ~40 years ago.

So, once again, if we are already ahead of them, why in hell should we use them as an example of what we should do, and what we could learn?

Heh, nice try backing out of that one. You tripped over your tail though with that last sentence. If you don't think we can learn from others' mistakes, no wonder idiotic drivel keeps showing up in your posts.

Let me explain "mixed" (you ****ing retard): compare France's relative success with integrating populations from it's African and Carribean colonies, with it's recent failures with Muslim populations. Compare french attitudes on race (not religion) with American. That's not even to mention England, or did you forget them?

 

[DRB]

Mixed means they did something right, and I don't know what planet you live on, but a summer of rioting where stories of years of what essentially is segregation doesn't sound like anything right to me.

Is this the worse constructed sentence in RM history?

 

[N8 v2.0]

Is this the worse constructed sentence in RM history?

apparently you have forgotten the SB kids... and TheMontashu

 

[MMike]

Do you two practice the weaver stance together?

The SCISSOR Weaver stance....(because of the exceedingly small weiners involved)

 

[N8 v2.0]

The SCISSOR Weaver stance....(because of the exceedingly small weiners involved)

reminds me....

 

[binary visions]

The SCISSOR Weaver stance....(because of the exceedingly small weiners involved)

You seem awfully interested in the penis size of a few board members.

Is there something your wife needs to know?

 

[$tinkle]

You seem awfully interested in the penis size of a few board members.

Is there something your wife needs to know?

and you're the one gratuitously using the word "members". e tu brutus?

 

[MMike]

You seem awfully interested in the penis size of a few board members.

Is there something your wife needs to know?

She knows all she needs to know....

 

[Plummit]

Chart from the NY Times (insert "liberal media bias" hysteria here).. http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/04/21/weekinreview/20070422_MARSH_GRAPHIC.html#

Frankly, I don't think more laws and restrictions really ever help the situation and are probably even less frequently the answer. It is, however, interesting to see who's dying at gunpoint on a daily basis. Clearly, white dudes need to chill and stop offing themselves....

 

[syadasti]

Chart from the NY Times (insert "liberal media bias" hysteria here).. http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/04/21/weekinreview/20070422_MARSH_GRAPHIC.html#

Frankly, I don't think more laws and restrictions really ever help the situation and are probably even less frequently the answer. It is, however, interesting to see who's dying at gunpoint on a daily basis. Clearly, white dudes need to chill and stop offing themselves....

Nope. The latest available stats from 2004 show society functions just fine without them. NY state has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country and they work - murder rates are the lowest in decades. The citizens are safer without them.

New York murder rate at record low

The murder rate in once crime-ridden New York is set to drop to an historic low, according to figures out today.

Murder rates plunged by 8.4% across the entire state in the first six months of the year, according to FBI figures.

Meanwhile, police in New York City expect to record their lowest-ever murder rate this year.

It is a dramatic turnaround for a city which recorded a massive 2,245 murders in 1990, when some areas were virtual no-go areas.

According to FBI figures, revealed by New York governor George Pataki, the state’s overall crime rate dropped 2.8% this year, with violent crime down more than 50%.

The state-wide murder rate dropped 8.4% in the first six months of 2004, compared with the same period last year.

Violent crime is down by 3.6%, compared with a 2% decline nationally.

Mr Pataki put the success down to “common-sense reforms” which have “kept violent criminals behind bars, and provided strong support for our law professionals”.

But New York police have not had the same success in cutting the number of rapes.

Sex attacks are up 2.5% compared with a national increase of 1.4%.

Meanwhile, murders in New York City have dropped 3.6% from the same period in 2003, according to police.

Between January 1 and December 5, 528 people were murdered in the city.

Crime has been on the decrease in New York in recent years.

According to the FBI’s 2002 Crime in the United States report, crime across America rose by about 0.1% that year but it fell by 5% in New York.

Former city mayor Rudolph Giuliani was credited with bringing about a big reduction in crime with a “zero tolerance” policy.

The strategy targeted all crime, even petty offences.

At the time it was criticised in some quarters because more black youths were stopped and searched by police.

 

[Silver]

Nope. The latest available stats from 2004 show society functions just fine without them. NY state has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country and they work - murder rates are the lowest in decades. The citizens are safer without them.

Murder rates across the country are down. How much of the NY state data is just indicative of a greater trend?

 

[syadasti]

Murder rates across the country are down. How much of the NY state data is just indicative of a greater trend?

They exceeded the national decline - almost double.

Violent crime is down by 3.6%, compared with a 2% decline nationally.

Pointed out elsewhere:

I hate to bring statistics into the picture but it seems a State like NY where handgun ownership requires individual gun registration and licensing has a per capita gun death rate almost half that of the national average. A state like Virginia which requires a permit to conceal is a little higher than national average. The wild west of Az with some of the most lax gun laws has twice the national average. At least as far as 1998 values go.

 

[$tinkle]

the ny <-> u.s. correlation of declination means nothing w/o per capita starting point. it would be expected to drop more precipitously in a high murder-rate area.

 

[syadasti]

the ny <-> u.s. correlation of declination means nothing w/o per capita starting point. it would be expected to drop more precipitously in a high murder-rate area.

See edit above from Westy...

 

[$tinkle]

that nyt graphic was a little unnerving: i didn't realize - in fact i was skeptical enough to verify independently - so many middle-aged white guys are blowing their brains out.

maybe viagra, et. al., will bring those numbers back down, and we'll see more graphics w/ these symbols:

 

[ohio]

we'll see more graphics w/ these symbols:

I have my suspicions, but dare I ask... what the hell are those and where do they go?

 

[MikeD]

They look like avatars to me.

 

[$tinkle]

I have my suspicions, but dare I ask... what the hell are those and where do they go?

my secret garden.

(hello moto)

 

[Secret Squirrel]

I have my suspicions, but dare I ask... what the hell are those and where do they go?

They're the actual-size of Viagra and Cialis. Apparently, old people have "stretched out" a bit more than I.....

 

[N8 v2.0]

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/usb-bb-gun-sports-barrel-mounted-webcam-ensures-home-security/