[jonKranked]

6'1". Large 2015 spitfire. mattoc 26" / 160mm. 175 cranks. neutral chips. still get the occasional pedal strike. Running the neutral chips because i still do a lot of climbing with the bike, and with 175 cranks i would be clipping pedals all the time.

 

[canadmos]

Pedal strikes just means that you're pedaling too much and not descending enough.

 

[LAP]

5'8", 135lbs, medium 2014 spitfire, 27.5 36 Rc2 160 with 26" wheels, 170 cranks, high chips(steep) with a 1.5 degree work headset. Head angle is about 65.5, with a nice steep seat angle. Bottom bracket high is unkown, but probably about medium chips height(pure guess). Pedal strikes are occasionnals, and the perfect sitting position helps to compensate for the low/slack geometry. Its a great bike, just fucking heavy.

 

[jonKranked]

Pedal strikes just means that you're pedaling too much and not descending enough.

you don't pedal on descents?

 

[canadmos]

you don't pedal on descents?

Not through rox

 

[jstuhlman]

pshhhh...do you even starva, bro?

 

['size]

you don't pedal on descents?

only in corners.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Pedal strikes just means that you're pedaling too much and not descending enough.

Or you ride like a man and pedal through rock gardens.

Edit: Oh just saw you don't pedal through rux.

Uhhh Hmmm....

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Also wanted to add that one of the coolest features of a Spitfire is it's cornering ability. It is the only frame I've ever ridden that allows the rider to tighten up the radius of a turn mid corner (or at any point really). Most other bikes do well just to hold the line you've set up for. But the Spitty can change lines as quick as you can think it.

I've even had few "oh shit" moments from over cornering and running into the bench cut. Yee haw !

 

[kazlx]

It's like magic, bro.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

totally

 

[toowacky]

'13 size L Spitty with 160mm Lyrik and CC DB Air CS with XV can. 26" wheels, lowest BB chip setting w/ 175mm cranks (pedal strikes yes, on occasion). This took the place of a first gen Rune. Don't miss the lost travel of the Rune, but it's heavier. Float CTD on the bike when I got it was turd, DB Air brought it to life, feels bottomless, love the bike. Although gotta say I'm curious of that Avy Float mentioned above, but the Inline should work great, too.

Watch out for over-torquing the top pivot bolts. It looked like the previous owner (or whoever serviced the bearings) had pulled the socket head bolt thru the cap that contacts the bearing. I replaced with a button head screw that had a bit larger diameter to help prevent it, but take some care.

 

[Westy]

Also wanted to add that one of the coolest features of a Spitfire is it's cornering ability. It is the only frame I've ever ridden that allows the rider to tighten up the radius of a turn mid corner (or at any point really). Most other bikes do well just to hold the line you've set up for. But the Spitty can change lines as quick as you can think it.

I've even had few "oh shit" moments from over cornering and running into the bench cut. Yee haw !

Counter steering. Most think it only works to initiate a turn, but it actually works better in a turn, because sinusoids, eigenvalues, routh-hurwitz theorem and shit.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Counter steering. Most think it only works to initiate a turn, but it actually works better in a turn, because sinusoids, eigenvalues, routh-hurwitz theorem and shit.

I wasn't talking about counter steering.

Sinusoidal stake used in Anticlastic forming and raising:

 

[Westy]

I wasn't talking about counter steering.

Sinusoidal stake used in Anticlastic forming and raising:

Nice, but you counter steer to tighten a turn, whether you know it or not.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Nice, but you counter steer to tighten a turn, whether you know it or not.

You've tried this argument before.

 

[Udi]

Also wanted to add that one of the coolest features of a Spitfire is it's cornering ability. It is the only frame I've ever ridden that allows the rider to tighten up the radius of a turn mid corner (or at any point really). Most other bikes do well just to hold the line you've set up for. But the Spitty can change lines as quick as you can think it.

Maybe Banshee puts Axxios AXS viscoelastic tape in the frame? Not a lot, just a small square piece... I think the performance increase is inversely proportional to how much you use.

It's the only truly scientific explanation really.

 

[Flo33]

 

[amishmatt]

Since every Spitfire thread turns into "talk about your Spitfire" I'll add my setup:

5'8"/170lbs on a 2013 medium with a 40mm stem and 787mm bars. 650beez in the 26" drops, low setting. 150mm fork. I wish it were longer, and I'm thinking about sizing up, but not sure I want to go all the way to a large. Hoping they stretch them again for the 2017 model.

The 2013-2015 with 650b wheels run a high-ish bb. In the low setting I'm still at 13.5" with 2.3" tires. That's my primary reason for running it low. The seat angle is too slack, but it could be worse for sure.

 

[kazlx]

Just because I'm lazy, why not just ask what tires everyone here is running. FWIW, single ply Nobby Nic, not so much for the traction.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Just because I'm lazy, why not just ask what tires everyone here is running. FWIW, single ply Nobby Nic, not so much for the traction.

Maxxis Ardent 26" 2.25 EXO TR for the flow-easy™ trails and Maxxis Minion 26" DHF 2.3 EXO TR for the rocky, rooty tech trails.

 

[ZHendo]

Just because I'm lazy, why not just ask what tires everyone here is running. FWIW, single ply Nobby Nic, not so much for the traction.

just sold my Spitfire (sad day, for sure), but coming out of PNW winter/spring was running a Shorty up front and WTB Vigilante out back. Would have preferred something with a thicker casing out back, but the combo worked pretty well. For warm/dry/loose, I like Minions on both ends. Not much hardpack where I ride, but would do a faster rolling rear tire if there was.

 

[amishmatt]

DHR2s front and rear, 2.3" EXO TR year round. Matchy matchy so I only need one spare. I'm curious about a Minion SS, but most of what I ride is loose over hard, plus I like braking traction, and I think the DHR2 rolls pretty well.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Maybe Banshee puts Axxios AXS viscoelastic tape in the frame? Not a lot, just a small square piece... I think the performance increase is inversely proportional to how much you use.

It's the only truly scientific explanation really.

So it's not magnets then...

 

[canadmos]

DHR2s front and rear, 2.3" EXO TR year round.

I'm on this as well. Though maybe mine are 2.35.

Great traction, especially climbing. I've noticed if I pump them over 30psi, they get super sketchy in turns on the loose of hard stuff. Not shocking..

 

[csermonet]

here she is partially built up. im going to finish it tomorrow at my parents house so i have the space of the garage(i live in an apartment unfortunately). i have some brake swapping to do between the bikes, may bleed the brakes with my preferred fluid, so i need to have some room to work. i'll be ordering some upgrade parts over the next few weeks. wheels and tires will be coming soon though,

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

here she is partially built up. im going to finish it tomorrow at my parents house so i have the space of the garage(i live in an apartment unfortunately). i have some brake swapping to do between the bikes, may bleed the brakes with my preferred fluid, so i need to have some room to work. i'll be ordering some upgrade parts over the next few weeks. wheels and tires will be coming soon though,

Now that's a right proper color for a mountain bike.

Congrats, now go scratch it up !!

 

[csermonet]

Now that's a right proper color for a mountain bike.

Congrats, now go scratch it up !!

Indeed, like Henry said, you can have it in any color you want, as long as its black. Here's the whole new stable, time to scratch them both up.

and for the sake of having stealth things, my car. 2013 Focus ST3 in Tuxedo Black. with a few various mods, including Cobb Accessport and engine tune.

 

[canadmos]

Welcome to the DHR and Spitfire club.

It's a great club.

 

[jonKranked]

Just because I'm lazy, why not just ask what tires everyone here is running. FWIW, single ply Nobby Nic, not so much for the traction.

Maxxis advantage 2.4 front, some intense semi slick in the back, around 2.3.

 

[canadmos]

So!? Did you ride this thing or what!?

 

[csermonet]

So!? Did you ride this thing or what!?

No man, I'm pretty bummed. I noticed as I was building it up that there was a small dent on the right side of the top tube. Virtually unnoticeable in the spot that it is, its halfway on the glossy part of the graphics and halfway on the matte, and its on the part that tapers. so the way the light plays off everything, it's not noticeable really. However, I bought this bike brand new from a shop, with a warranty and everything. Only the second bike I've ever bought new, and the first I bought almost 10 years ago now. I would prefer, that any dent or scratch the frame gets, be from me. I already contacted Banshee, it doesn't appear that they will replace it under warranty, they think it is a shipping issue. Which talking to the seller, and seeing the pictures before, I do believe it happened in shipping as well. I am just waiting on emails to see whether I should ride it or not, but I honestly don't think I'll get a replacement triangle. Seeing as Banshee thinks it happened during shipping, FedEx is going to have to buy me a replacement. And that sounds like its going to be a nightmare to get them to do that. So i'll probably stick with this one. You guys tell me what you think, i'll post a picture of the dent making it as visible as possible...worth trying to get a replacement triangle? Or ride this one?

 

[csermonet]

I overexposed the image in my cell phones camera settings, to try and show the dent as best I could. sorry if there is any bongs or anything in the background, didn't clean up and in the process of moving into this place

 

[csermonet]

Maxxis advantage 2.4 front, some intense semi slick in the back, around 2.3.

So!? Did you ride this thing or what!?

@Udi

@AngryMetalsmith

@TrumbullHucker

@Sandwich

@kidwoo

am I being a bitch though? should I just ride it? or should i try to get a replacement?

 

[Udi]

Check FedEx's insurance policy for the specific shipping product that was used in your case, see what it covers and how much for. Contact them and see what they say (ideally phone to cut down on waiting times). Doesn't hurt to try.

If it doesn't work out then just ride it - doesn't look like it'll cause functional issues, and I don't think it's very noticeable cosmetically.

 

[csermonet]

Check FedEx's insurance policy for the specific shipping product that was used in your case, see what it covers and how much for. Contact them and see what they say (ideally phone to cut down on waiting times). Doesn't hurt to try.

If it doesn't work out then just ride it - doesn't look like it'll cause functional issues, and I don't think it's very noticeable cosmetically.

Okay I will give them a call Monday. Do you have any experience with something like this? Like will it take some time for them to make a decision? And lets assume they will replace it, I don't imagine it to be a very quick process. I just want to know if I can ride it while they make a decision, or if i need to keep it in the condition that it arrived in

 

[csermonet]

oh yeah. these came today. well this is the rear, didn't take a picture of the front. figured i'd go for the bling finish, be a nice contrast to the other wise stealthy build. match the chrome finish T1's too. the hubs each came in a zip loc bag inside their box. the rear hub had a good amount of excess oil all over the bag and hub. I assume it's because of the super thin teflon based stuff they put on the pawls. I've normally just dabbed some 80wt gear oil i had laying around, Redline full synthetic, on the pawls and it's been fine for 5 years. I got a little bottle of the Hadley stuff though when I bought their tool kit so I'll try using that on my services and rebuilds now.

 

[dump]

Nice hub!

 

[Udi]

Okay I will give them a call Monday. Do you have any experience with something like this? Like will it take some time for them to make a decision? And lets assume they will replace it, I don't imagine it to be a very quick process. I just want to know if I can ride it while they make a decision, or if i need to keep it in the condition that it arrived in

No solid experience - but I do know the official line is often that you're supposed to inspect the item at point of delivery and inform the delivery person if there is a problem. Read the fine print on the website for the exact shipping product you used, and take note of insurance details - the amount insurable (if any, if included, if purchased) and the requirements for making a claim. There may be some flexibility but if you don't know where you stand legally, you won't be in a good position to make a claim - you need to know what you're entitled to by law, and what you can ask for politely from a goodwill perspective. These are two very different things.

Was there no obvious damage on the box when you received it? I think it's good to take photos of the packaging etc if there is damage. If there is no visible external packaging damage then it's more likely to be deemed the seller's fault.

In any case - I'd say at this point all bets are off from an official standpoint, so if it were me, I'd stop talking about it in the public forum and ride it (somewhat) carefully if you feel so inclined - just being careful not to crash/scratch it in case there is a need to return for inspection or whatever later.

 

[csermonet]

No solid experience - but I do know the official line is often that you're supposed to inspect the item at point of delivery and inform the delivery person if there is a problem. Read the fine print on the website for the exact shipping product you used, and take note of insurance details - the amount insurable (if any, if included, if purchased) and the requirements for making a claim. There may be some flexibility but if you don't know where you stand legally, you won't be in a good position to make a claim - you need to know what you're entitled to by law, and what you can ask for politely from a goodwill perspective. These are two very different things.

Was there no obvious damage on the box when you received it? I think it's good to take photos of the packaging etc if there is damage. If there is no visible external packaging damage then it's more likely to be deemed the seller's fault.

In any case - I'd say at this point all bets are off from an official standpoint, so if it were me, I'd stop talking about it in the public forum and ride it (somewhat) carefully if you feel so inclined - just being careful not to crash/scratch it in case there is a need to return for inspection or whatever later.

Well the bike was delivered to the wrong address, I found it on a different floor in the same building. So i was not there to inspect with the driver next to me. I even made sure I didn't leave all day long, only to get a delivery notification and no sign of the bike. It was probably outside for over 2 hours before I found it. And there was a big puncture hole in the box, I notifiied the seller of it. Before I noticed the frame was damaged even. I am just going to ride it how it is, and go through the necessary means I need to get it replaced. I have documentation of the frame the way i received it, FedEx was made aware it was misdelivered, the seller was notified of box damage. I have pictures of the box. I can't wait for them to replace it before i ride it, that could easily be weeks, if not months. If I screw myself by riding it then so be it, i already said I'm not too entirely miffed about it, and the frame will probably see some dents over its life anyway. Kind of like taking a brand new helmet and scratching it up I guess