I need advice on a new frame....

scurban · Jan 31, 2006

whats wrong with your Azonic?

scurban · Jan 31, 2006

other than 26" wheels, how do you want to set it up for Slalom? For Park/DJ/Street? or for Freeride?

My personal choice out of what you have listed would probably be the Park bike, because I like 24"s, I ride mostly dj and park, so I could build a a bike that really suites those styles of riding with that frame. If I wanted a 26" bike I'd probably lean towards the .243, because again, I like cromo. I've ridden one before, and they feel really comfortable. With a rigid/short travel fork, it's a great street/park bike, or if you wanted, you could run a 5" fork, and have one bike to do everything Freeride/street/dj/park.

So it really depends on what you want to do.

dropsdon'tlikem · Jan 31, 2006

From the info listed here I would recomend the Evil DOC.

If you were looking to run 24s i would actually recomend the Tonic Fab Fall Guy.

scurban · Jan 31, 2006

dropsdon'tlikem said:
From the info listed here I would recomend the Evil DOC.

If you were looking to run 24s i would actually recomend the Tonic Fab Fall Guy.

Thats what I have and I love it.

I would highly reccommend adding it to the list.

Also add the Nemisis Project Death Mobile (26") or the Nemisis Project Street Fighter.

The two Nemisis, and the Tonic are the 3 best dj/street/park bikes on the market right now IMO.

roughandtangle · Jan 31, 2006

Go with the DOC... looks so sweet and super strong

roughandtangle · Jan 31, 2006

also reasonably priced

spacemanspiff06 · Jan 31, 2006

isn't the peeler cove's 9" DH bike?

boostindoubles · Jan 31, 2006

I really like my simple Bike co '509' frame. runs a 26" rear and super short chainstays.

www.simplebikeco.com

dexter · Jan 31, 2006

sinister dna

Bicyclist · Jan 31, 2006

DOC with a 3" fork for DJ/street. .243 for FR/all around.

dropsdon'tlikem · Jan 31, 2006

scurban said:
Thats what I have and I love it.

I would highly reccommend adding it to the list.

Also add the Nemisis Project Death Mobile (26") or the Nemisis Project Street Fighter.

The two Nemisis, and the Tonic are the 3 best dj/street/park bikes on the market right now IMO.

amen! the new fall guy with the mid-bb and integrated headset :thumb:

scurban · Jan 31, 2006

EricMcFlow said:
I think I am leaning towards the .243 SL now. Only thing I dont like about it is the lack of ISCG tabs. Basically I am looking for a bike more for urban then anything else. Decent travel fork (thinking Pike 426 coil). Having a really hard time finding a cro-mo frame that has horizontal drop-outs, sub 16in chain stays, 26rear and ISCG tabs. So far everything has been all except one of them. I just need to figure out what feature is the one to compromise. Basically I need a bike that fits right in between my SGS and my Genral Lee 24.

Dude..... The DOC is probably the right choice then. Sliding vertical dropouts are great, and correct me if I'm wrong the DOC has a ISCG right?

Nick · Feb 1, 2006

yo Eric ... it's Nick.

I'm sort of in the same boat as you. I really like the DOC but I'm not so sure about the adjustable dropouts.
I know a few riders on .243 frames and those are very nice. Are you stuck on a steel frame for sure? Why not run a BB mounted guide and eliminate that from your list?

I just got back from a good street ride to/from the south lakeshore.

manhattanprjkt83 · Feb 2, 2006

Nick said:
yo Eric ... it's Nick.

I'm sort of in the same boat as you. I really like the DOC but I'm not so sure about the adjustable dropouts.

Man i run both a DOC and a Soviergn I understand you reservations about adjustable dropouts, but let me tell you, these things are pure art and beefy as hell. I would totally go with the DOC or Soviergn as a street rig, it on higher level than the other frames you guys are talking about...

Nick · Feb 2, 2006

manhattanprjkt83 said:
Man i run both a DOC and a Soviergn I understand you reservations about adjustable dropouts, but let me tell you, these things are pure art and beefy as hell. I would totally go with the DOC or Soviergn as a street rig, it on higher level than the other frames you guys are talking about...

Thanks for that. My concern is slippage, even though I've seen people throw down on their DOCs without incident. The thing is that once I get set up I doubt I would ever adjust them again.

Let me ask you, do you adjust your wheelbase often, or ever, since you've owned the two Evil frames?

scurban · Feb 2, 2006

the .243 has great Geo. I've ridden a few, and they always feel perfect.

Tetreault · Feb 3, 2006

i would look into the new Dobermann fab bikes, the owners are old balfa and 24 guys, and their product is simply amazing, they have 3 frames ranging from 500, 750, and 1000 canadian.

aznfreerdr08 · Feb 4, 2006

im holding out for do ber mann's website to come out so i can look into getting one. those things are sick

scurban · Feb 5, 2006

aznfreerdr08 said:
im holding out for do ber mann's website to come out so i can look into getting one. those things are sick

I think you should get the nemisis project street fighter.

Evil4bc · Feb 5, 2006

scurban said:
Thats what I have and I love it.

I would highly reccommend adding it to the list.

Also add the Nemisis Project Death Mobile (26") or the Nemisis Project Street Fighter.

The two Nemisis, and the Tonic are the 3 best dj/street/park bikes on the market right now IMO.

The DeathMobile comes with an externally machined Internal headset and Spanish B/B !
( Spanish is lighter than MID too ! )

We also make another 26" bike the SecretAgent !
It'a a 26" bikes designed around DJ/ MTX and Street/park
Same basic angles as a StreetFighter but shorter seattube and the frame accepts duel 26"s frame weight is 5.5 lbs here's the rundown on the bike's GEO:
SecretAgent
RETAIL $ 750-$800 depending on paint
Designed around 26's for DJ , Urban , Street , MTX specific hardtail
(24" wheel compatible W/disk )
Hand-built from 100% True-Temper OX platinum front triangle and chain-stays .
Straight gauge heat-treated True-Temper seat-stays !
Frame weight is 5.7 lbs
GEO:
72 head angle with 80-mm marzocchi fork ( 455-mm axle to crown )
70 seat
22.0 TT
15.50-16.25 rear end
12.25 B/B height
14.0 seat-tube center to top
press-fit 1 1/8 head-tube
Euro B/B

Follow like below to pic of the new frame !
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?postid=1439704#poststop

Tetreault · Feb 5, 2006

aznfreerdr08 said:
im holding out for do ber mann's website to come out so i can look into getting one. those things are sick

they most definatly are the nicest bikes ive ever seen, and thats y i currenty have one on order, what more could u ask for? flawless geometry, great materials, and a welder that used to weld for BALFA! you know the bike is going to last a long long time.

Thacker · Feb 5, 2006

I have a Supercross MX26 and it is an awesome park bike, I ride a lot of trails with it too...4130 double butted chromoly with post weld heat treat so it's really strong...www.supercrossbmx.com.....

kenjikuro · Feb 6, 2006

Evil4bc said:
The DeathMobile comes with an externally machined Internal headset and Spanish B/B !
( Spanish is lighter than MID too ! )

We also make another 26" bike the SecretAgent !
It'a a 26" bikes designed around DJ/ MTX and Street/park
Same basic angles as a StreetFighter but shorter seattube and the frame accepts duel 26"s frame weight is 5.5 lbs here's the rundown on the bike's GEO:
SecretAgent
RETAIL $ 750-$800 depending on paint
Designed around 26's for DJ , Urban , Street , MTX specific hardtail
(24" wheel compatible W/disk )
Hand-built from 100% True-Temper OX platinum front triangle and chain-stays .
Straight gauge heat-treated True-Temper seat-stays !
Frame weight is 5.7 lbs
GEO:
72 head angle with 80-mm marzocchi fork ( 455-mm axle to crown )
70 seat
22.0 TT
15.50-16.25 rear end
12.25 B/B height
14.0 seat-tube center to top
press-fit 1 1/8 head-tube
Euro B/B

Follow like below to pic of the new frame !
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?postid=1439704#poststop

are you sure marz fork are 455 at 80mm? i know the 30mm stanction are. but mostly 32mm stanction need 65mm travel to be at 455mm from axle to crown

manhattanprjkt83 · Feb 6, 2006

Nick said:
Thanks for that. My concern is slippage, even though I've seen people throw down on their DOCs without incident. The thing is that once I get set up I doubt I would ever adjust them again.

Let me ask you, do you adjust your wheelbase often, or ever, since you've owned the two Evil frames?

I still actually OWN both, and no i never adjust either wheelbase, no need...I have the DOC tucked way up in because it is my street bike and the soveirgn is extended all the way out (in xc config)...I think it is best to get used to one thing then stick with it.

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