I think I could live with a Liberty like this...
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quit trying to talk yourself into buying that wifemobile.
Yeah, I saw one the other day that must have had 4 inches of lift and 32's maybe 33's but it looked pretty tough. That is one that I would consider!
that is so rad.
he heh, it's better than an h2 thoughBurlySurly said:
Oh yes she would...she digs big tiresToshi said:you know if you got one it would stay bone stock, because your wife wouldn't let you touch it
This was her old jeep when we met:
Soon Homer is showing off his Canyonero at the SNPP. As he drives
past, Lenny and Carl make cat-calls from the parking lot. Homer stops
and lowers his window.
Lenny: Oh, sorry Homer. We thought you were one of those hot-to-
trot soccer moms.
Carl: Yeah, you don't see many men driving the F-series. [Lenny
and Carl indicate badge on side of truck]
Homer: Huh?
Lenny: [reaches in the window, and pulls something out] See,
instead of a cigarette lighter, it's got a lipstick holder.
Homer: Aw, crap, it's a girls' car! I can't drive this.
Lenny: Oh sure you can, dollface. [makes kissy noises]
Carl: Heh, heh, pretty thing like you can do whatever she wants.
[Lenny and Carl share a laugh]
Homer: Shut up! Screw you guys! [drives off]
past, Lenny and Carl make cat-calls from the parking lot. Homer stops
and lowers his window.
Lenny: Oh, sorry Homer. We thought you were one of those hot-to-
trot soccer moms.
Carl: Yeah, you don't see many men driving the F-series. [Lenny
and Carl indicate badge on side of truck]
Homer: Huh?
Lenny: [reaches in the window, and pulls something out] See,
instead of a cigarette lighter, it's got a lipstick holder.
Homer: Aw, crap, it's a girls' car! I can't drive this.
Lenny: Oh sure you can, dollface. [makes kissy noises]
Carl: Heh, heh, pretty thing like you can do whatever she wants.
[Lenny and Carl share a laugh]
Homer: Shut up! Screw you guys! [drives off]
Is there such a thing as a lifted/modded Honda Element? I want one like that please... 
Can you hose out a Scion? Noooo 
But an element is an SUV, and its quite useful indeed. Only thing it needs is more ground clearance...
But an element is an SUV, and its quite useful indeed. Only thing it needs is more ground clearance...
xbluethunderx said:Can you hose out a Scion? Noooo
But an element is an SUV, and its quite useful indeed. Only thing it needs is more ground clearance...
.........and a decent drivetrain........and suspension that isn't passenger car based.................and a live axle.........and and and
MMike, the liberty is nice...but if I were going to do the lifted rig thing again I'd go right back to the XJ
If you want/don't mind IFS, you can do a whole lot better than the liberty. An Xterra or a 4Runner would be my first choice, but there's a lot out there.
I just bought one. Metallica dark green. It's the sport model. Of courese if you install a lift kit, which I wanted to do, just 2", it voids the warranty. I can't understand how people put on lift kits if they void the warranty. They must not give a crap ha? This was the lift, sweet ha?
About 200 buck and 2 hours to install. Not overkill, just right. I love my Jeep, especially with the 400W Alpine amp and 12" sub I put in it.
Knuck
About 200 buck and 2 hours to install. Not overkill, just right. I love my Jeep, especially with the 400W Alpine amp and 12" sub I put in it.
Knuck
Doesn't void the Jeep warranty, just the warranty of the parts you replaced.
My GF's Wrangler- Warranty intact besides the suspension/tires and wheels
My GF's Wrangler- Warranty intact besides the suspension/tires and wheels
Well per the service manager where I bought the jeep.
Altering the height of the vehicle puts strain on the following components, thus voids the warranty.
Steering, axles, suspension, tie rods, ball joints, springs, shocks, and on and on.
Knuckle
Altering the height of the vehicle puts strain on the following components, thus voids the warranty.
Steering, axles, suspension, tie rods, ball joints, springs, shocks, and on and on.
Knuckle
Well it's really too bad they don't make the XJ anymore. I've got a 2001 XJ now. I'm not really at....um..."liberty" to discuss my automotive future just yet. All will be revealed in a few weeks. But 4Runners are Wa-HAY more expensive than the KJ. I drove and X-terra way back when. I hated it. I was SO gutless. Maybe they are better now with the supercharger. But even still, it's still about 30 or 40 hp less than the jeep. And again...slightly more expensive than a KJ.
A friend of mine back home has one and he loves driving it. But yes. Too bad I only ever seem to see girls driving them. The '05 TRD does sound interesting. And they did change the front a little for the Renegade model. (the hood no linger "dips" down between the headlights).
This would be easier if I just gave up mountain biking and I could just get an Acura TL or something......
A friend of mine back home has one and he loves driving it. But yes. Too bad I only ever seem to see girls driving them. The '05 TRD does sound interesting. And they did change the front a little for the Renegade model. (the hood no linger "dips" down between the headlights).
This would be easier if I just gave up mountain biking and I could just get an Acura TL or something......
Why not just get a ford Windstar?
the 2005 renegade
http://jeepin.com/news/05liberty/index.asp
http://www.autosite.com/Previews/2005-jeep-liberty.asp
** wince **
http://jeepin.com/news/05liberty/index.asp
http://www.autosite.com/Previews/2005-jeep-liberty.asp
** wince **
Gotta compare Apples to Apples - 2005 Xterra seems to have a great package - its much more attractive package than the old one. Its now based on the F-Alpha platform - same as Titan which is current the best rated pickup on the market and has a big V6 engine:
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/nissan/2005/xterra/intro/home.shtml
2005 Nissan Xterra
The all-new 2005 Nissan Xterra, which made its world debut at the 2004 New York International Auto Show, continues the theme of the original everything you need, nothing you dont. But now truer than ever.
The enhancements for the second generation Xterra, all in keeping with the spirit of the first, include more power, more roominess and more utility. The new Xterra also offers greatly improved off-road performance, a new 4.0-liter V6 and an all-new rugged, fully boxed all-steel frame.
The new Xterra utilizes a modified version of the F-Alpha platform, developed for the full-size Nissan Armada and full-size Nissan Titan pickup, tailored to suit this application. For its use in Xterra, the platform utilizes an independent double-wishbone front and rigid leaf spring rear suspension, standard 4.0-liter DOHC V6 rated at 250-plus horsepower and 270-plus lb-ft of torque, and a choice of 5-speed automatic or 6-speed manual transmissions. The 2005 Xterra is available in 4WD or 2WD with an available enhanced off-road system.
Xterras new exterior styling evokes that of the original, including a highly functional roof rack (now with latchable lid). Inside, the 2005 Xterra offers more room, especially in 2nd row head room and leg room, and enhanced utility of the multi-flex cargo area including an easy-to-clean luggage area and an adjustable channel system in the cargo floor.
The new Xterra will be assembled at Nissan's manufacturing facility in Smyrna, Tennessee. It is scheduled to go on sale at Nissan dealers nationwide in early 2005.
Around these parts we consider a Jeep Liberty a Gay Man's vehicle.......sorry guys. 
Yeah, you totally can't hose out an Element! Who would want to put a jet of water into a vehicle's interior? I guess there was some T.V. ad or something that was hyperbole (did I use the term correctly?) but people took it seriously. You can wipe it down with a sponge quite easily, what with the waterproof seats, no carpeting whatsoever, etc. (I have a 2003 4WD Element and loooooove it!) :heart: You can even hang bikes out the back for shuttle runs.Lexx D said:
I think the Scions (the boxy ones) look like minivans. I don't see the appeal.
Hmm....that new xterra looks cool. I wnder if it will be abou the same price?
I actually test drove one today. It was a fancy shmancy limited with the leather and all that. I wouldn't be getting one of those.....IF I got one of course. It's definitely a little more refined and far more baby-friendly. Doesn't seem as torquey. They claim more HP though... Not sure about the tranny either. When I tromp on it in my Cherokee, it chugs down and goes. (XJ's have pretty decent giddyup). The KJ didn't seem to want to downshift. Of course my daughter was completely zonked out in the back seat so I didn't REALLY beat it too badly.
A big drawback too that just struck me is that with the spare tire hanging off the back, I don't think my Sportworks would work (folded up), without some modification....
A big drawback too that just struck me is that with the spare tire hanging off the back, I don't think my Sportworks would work (folded up), without some modification....
Ask thatoneguy what he thinks about his Xterra!!syadasti said:
The 2005 is completely redesigned (based on the same platform as the Titan which is the highest rated pickup in its class) looking to address the shortcomings of the old model and its a offroader vs. a softroader (at least in the older versions of each vehicle)...
I think most people would take Nissan build quality any day over DaimlerChrysler...
I think most people would take Nissan build quality any day over DaimlerChrysler...
Hehe...Tenchiro said:
Last night was the episode where homer has the yawn/stretch contest with the truck drivers
I laughed at it pretty hard... again.
I can't comment on that one, but I'm sure thaoneguy is going to get a laugh out of that.syadasti said:
5Char
Wumpus said:
300 lb.-ft. torque at 1800rpm!!!:love:
Yeah they're getting sweet sweet diesels...
See, the Element would be nice for the bikeys...I'm not too into the off roading stuff, but for mountain biking I have to drive on rocky dirt roads, and my 88 Honda Accord has a rough time with that.
Whats wrong with the older Xterras?
See, the Element would be nice for the bikeys...I'm not too into the off roading stuff, but for mountain biking I have to drive on rocky dirt roads, and my 88 Honda Accord has a rough time with that.
Whats wrong with the older Xterras?
my Cherokee has a "Liberty Recovery Unit" sticker on it...........
First off, I'm a die hard Jeep man, my 98 XJ is eseentialy a stock outer shell with mods galore including a Accurate Power I6 block @ 270 hp amoung other things. The XJ isn't bad, but you have to be more specific with what you want out of it, if modding is your cup o'tea keep your XJ, if your happy with stock keep the XJ. Overall, the 3.7 doesn't impress near what the 4.0 does. As a 90% on highway vehicle, the additional room of the KJ is nice, I think it's a decent vehicle, but a little too refined for my liking.
Whoever was bragging about Nissan's Build quality, is that what you buy a SUV for? If it is, stay with Nissan, we don't need more of your type demanding IFS on every new Jeep. I didn't buy my XJ for fit and finish, nor did I buy it for ride quality, in fact it rides quite rough, however let's talk 3 feet of bog or some river valley crawling and instant wood over the XJ. The 4.0 in stock form will go for as many, if not more miles than any improt engine I've seen. It's quite unfortunate that the '05 ZJ is IFS up front, equally as unfortunate is the fact that such a sweet little diesel wasn't offered in the XJ, think of the ruber 300 ft*lbs could drag
Whoever was bragging about Nissan's Build quality, is that what you buy a SUV for? If it is, stay with Nissan, we don't need more of your type demanding IFS on every new Jeep. I didn't buy my XJ for fit and finish, nor did I buy it for ride quality, in fact it rides quite rough, however let's talk 3 feet of bog or some river valley crawling and instant wood over the XJ. The 4.0 in stock form will go for as many, if not more miles than any improt engine I've seen. It's quite unfortunate that the '05 ZJ is IFS up front, equally as unfortunate is the fact that such a sweet little diesel wasn't offered in the XJ, think of the ruber 300 ft*lbs could drag
xterra == frontier. frontier == teh suck. if you want a nissan suv and aren't a hardcore offroader get a pathfinder. 31"s fit fine, and it's on its own unibodyxbluethunderx said:
platform. more room, better ride, same powertrains (substituting the supercharged 3.3L in the later xterras for a 3.5L V6 in 2001?-on up pathfinders, basically an even trade afaik)
Have you guys seen Tractech's liberty?
I have a TJ and I must agree, DC puts out junk and the dumb thing gets about 14 MPG. It will go anywhere though, and is simple. I wish the japs would start buidling a TJ, it would last 250,000 miles, get 25 MPG, and cost 5k less.syadasti said:
