Ok well that's true.
(Sorry John. I specifically got up early to delete it...)
(Sorry John. I specifically got up early to delete it...)
I want an Evil hardtail
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So do I
To beat your ass with it.Originally posted by Acadian
what would u use it for?
Yes. That's exactly how I'd use it. The extra strong rear drop-outs would hurt like hell.....
Want my Imperial? I think I found a new love. :love:
why yes.... in the near future you will not be able to use such a blanket term as 'evil hardtail'- youll have to SPECIFYYYYY
kyle the sovereign looks super fun built up like that! I think youve inspired me to go toss a new tube in the back of the blue one and just go ride around the woods with the fork stuck at 5".:dancing:
kyle the sovereign looks super fun built up like that! I think youve inspired me to go toss a new tube in the back of the blue one and just go ride around the woods with the fork stuck at 5".:dancing:
I would, so far i'm really liking the more trail oriented geometry, I'm running my Fox at 5" and it feels great to me.
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It is for now until I can get my own, I'm suppose to let Heiki ride it some time, but he's gonna have to pry it out of my cold dead hands, LOL. I love my Imperial but this fits me much better, and suits my riding style better.
I cant wait to get on that thing with it set up alittle bit like that. I had so much fun on it out at sea otter just in the parking lots and stuff.
(my riding style)Originally posted by Acadian
I have an XC background, never raced BMX, this is more of a trail bike than a dirt jump/dh hardtail. Lighter with alot more natural flex in the steel, much easier dropouts to run any gear SS and still play with geometry.
dittoOriginally posted by Acadian
Hey Kyle, have you (or anyone else reading this with an imperial) ever set that frame up with 24" wheels? I know that frame has kind of a high BB and was thinking it would be a good one to use. I rode a Kona with 24" wheels on the DJs at Boulder City (brother Jed's bike) and really liked how it felt.
Numbers/opinions anyone?
ahh, you wuss!
I also deleted my "Whistler bans flat pedals" thread too. I figured the horse is not all well if not dead.....
A few of our street team members run 24" in the rear, but personally I never have. The BB really isn't that high if you run a 5" fork or less, and the center of gravity is so low that it feels really stable (and this is from someone who sucks at jumping). If you were just jumping it, 24's might feel more comfortable, expecially if you ride 20".
With 2.2" tires a 125RLC Fox, my BB was under 12.5"
too bad all this couldnt stick, we'd start to see some wicked deals on hardtails in the classifieds...
Wow, thanks. That's actually lower than I thought it would be. It sounds like two 24" wheels with a 3" fork and 175 cranks might be a problem. My dually jump bike now has a 12" BB and the longer cranks get a little close to the ground pedaling around corners. I guess I could live with 170s.
Thanks for the info.
Check this old thread out, photos of Imperials with different forks
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75701
Cool, thanks for the info.
Hey Kyle,
I met you briefly late Sunday at SO.
I didn't know you're a monkey.
Thanks for the time.
I'm curious about the Sovereign in a 24/24 setup.
Are you running 26's on it now?
Cheers, Brad
I met you briefly late Sunday at SO.
I didn't know you're a monkey.
Thanks for the time.
I'm curious about the Sovereign in a 24/24 setup.
Are you running 26's on it now?
Cheers, Brad
I personally will probably not ever run 24's cause I do more trail riding than street and jumping, but I'll bet Donahue will set his up that way, or at least a 24 rear.
yah, it would be my dream urban/whatever ride
I on the other hand am expanding my quiver........ah yes my children.........soon another to keep you company...................I adore each and every one...................
I'm also trying to get more speed at a place with 20-30 foot doubles that has claimed 2 rims in two visits.
so yeah what do you want for that thing?
the sovereign is so nimble already im not sure how great it would be with 24's. But the good thing is is that there will be a seperate dropout made for it so it wont change the geometry anyways! I liked it as was with the 26, maybe a bit slacker head angle for the burly stuff.
Im pretty sure donahue is actually running 26's as well as gears and a front brake this year.
the imperial with dual 24's and a 4" fork with a normal headset has a BB of 11.4 and a HA of 70. Throw in an e13 reducer cup if you want it even more nimble and that will get you a 11.2 BB and 70.6 HA
Im pretty sure donahue is actually running 26's as well as gears and a front brake this year.
the imperial with dual 24's and a 4" fork with a normal headset has a BB of 11.4 and a HA of 70. Throw in an e13 reducer cup if you want it even more nimble and that will get you a 11.2 BB and 70.6 HA
i had my Imperial setup with 24s (2.35 Arrow Launches) with a 4" fork and like it a lot more than with the 26s (2.5 HighRoller F...2.4 MotoRaptor R) that are on it now, also with 4". i'll be going back to 24s after this weekend.
oh, and i'm also running the e13 reducer cups.
i prefer it to feel more nimble. i don't do trail rides on it 'cause i'm too tall, and i don't dh.
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i just wish i could get those freakin' drop-outs.
oh, and i'm also running the e13 reducer cups.
i prefer it to feel more nimble. i don't do trail rides on it 'cause i'm too tall, and i don't dh.
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i just wish i could get those freakin' drop-outs.
thanks pip3er and Inbred. Good to hear from someone with a dual 24" setup. I appreciate the numbers.
Oh god, I was looking at an imperial.
eesh
eesh
Yeah, they were pretty popular here in Argentina. You used to see them fitted with single crown Manitou Shermans/Travis, or Marzocchi 66s.
Yeah they had a strong distro in Argentina. I did a small translating gig for the back in the day. Still have their DJ frame.
I had an evil DOC. Had two of them actually.
My cringing regards the imperial specifically.
My cringing regards the imperial specifically.
i guess mine doesn't win over any points w/ you?
the SL was rad. could never get over the wonky STA of the regular version. no idea what he was thinking with that aesthetic abomination.
is that woo's old imperial?
It was super funky...I agree.the SL was rad. could never get over the wonky STA of the regular version. no idea what he was thinking with that aesthetic abomination.
Derailing again... Which French brand used to have those hardtails with the funky seat tubes, Evil style?
