Ibex owners..
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Whoever this is, you shouldn't be answering questions in the beginner forum if you are a beginner yourself, and the only answers you can give just confuse the matter more.chono12 said:
As a sales manager, these are the things I look for in any bike I sell or want personally:
1. Quality
2. Warranty/Tech Support
3. Who is selling it to me and who is assembling it
Quality is obvious, but how to evaluate it is much harder. Weld finish is the most apparent, as well as frame weight (which you can compared to other bikes with similiar components). Reports from customers and industry people is another way.
If nothing goes wrong with your bike, then warranty and tech is not so important. But bikes do fail for various reasons, and it is important that you can get the answers or replacement parts.
Finally, LBS is critical here. What is the right frame size? Is the stem the right fit? How about the seatpost height? And is the front derailleur adjusted properly? Or do the brakes work right? Or maybe something was defective before it was assembled?
Anyway, I think this Ibex would fail my 3 categories.
hey man, all i said was i not heard anything bad about them . but if u read the last part more correctly, it basically mean u should get a bike that fits u, which u have to try it at a LBS. "bike is a bike but so is a SHOE" if u know anything about shoes like u know about bikes, they have to fit well, well thats how all my custom made shoes are made but then they cost $300-500 each. and they are made by a professional!!!! (but who knows, it could be made in some 3rd world country like everything else, lol) customer service is always great but i pay for it. so please relax, its a forum and i just gave my OBJECTIVE 2 cents since i dont own, work , sell bikes at a LBS. i didnt tell him to buy one, just make sure u try and buy the one u like.
like everything else, price dont mean everything. bmw are great cars but all the dealers in the bay area sux. but hey my m5 needs them. would i buy from them again, prob not cuz of their im a bmw dealer attitude. they try to rip u off at the service department cuz they think no one know how to fix cars when they drive them. it doesnt mean bmw are crappy cars cuz u get snotty ppl service centers. i got better service when i owned a lexus. anyways, im diverging from the pt.
always try it b4 u buy it. know ur company and decide then after u have done ur research. even then sorry to say doesnt get u something perfect. i have owned crappy sony, bmw, mission, plasma , dell, etc. but like u said CUSTOMER service makes a big difference (even if it is a crappy item).
like everything else, price dont mean everything. bmw are great cars but all the dealers in the bay area sux. but hey my m5 needs them. would i buy from them again, prob not cuz of their im a bmw dealer attitude. they try to rip u off at the service department cuz they think no one know how to fix cars when they drive them. it doesnt mean bmw are crappy cars cuz u get snotty ppl service centers. i got better service when i owned a lexus. anyways, im diverging from the pt.
always try it b4 u buy it. know ur company and decide then after u have done ur research. even then sorry to say doesnt get u something perfect. i have owned crappy sony, bmw, mission, plasma , dell, etc. but like u said CUSTOMER service makes a big difference (even if it is a crappy item).
well it seems to be an ok bike...I helped him set everything up needed a little tweaking and tightening...Sanjuro everything I have read about this company seems pretty good if there is any problems they seem to help out from what I have read on mtbr reviews....I don't think you are going to fine a dual suspension bike at a store with these components for under $1000.00....
Well, this is a funny one. First of all, I have never seen an Ibex, so you could certainly disqualify me from this discussion based that.ktmsx said:
Take a look at the Ignition 3 ($799) vs a Specialized FSRxc ($1200). Even though the picture quality is very poor on the Ignition (probably to hide the flaws), I think you can see the difference in the frame quality.
Keep in mind, I call a bike like this a "Parts Hanger". A lousy bike might have a great part spec, but the most important component, the frame, could be poo. The frame could be much heavier (the first sign of a bad frame) than a similiarly priced counterpart, and poorly constructed, but it is impossible to know that from looking at a spec list. Since frame weights are never listed, the easiest way to find out is to weight a complete bike, then compare it other bikes.
As for a good FS bike under $1000, I don't believe one exists. I always tell my customers I think decent FS bikes usually start around $1200, and if you can't afford one, you should buy a hardtail. Any $700-1000 hardtail will hold up to frequent rides for at two years with any major problems.
I suppose if the owner is going to ride once in a while, then this Ibex will do the job. But the FSRxc would ride better, weigh less, and last longer.
You hit on the magic component, disc brakes. Many $500-$1000 mtn bike customers focus on that one item over suspension and frame quality.ktmsx said:
And it is important. I won't buy another mtn bike without disc brakes. But frame quality is vastly more important. You can buy disc brakes later, but if you frame sucks, then your bike sucks.
Again, you can't look at spec sheet to determine how good or bad your frame is. The only way to do it is to inspect the frame before installing any parts, or after a year of riding on it.
As for a "big name", I have visited the Specialized offices, seen their research and testing facilities, met the designers, rode with their test riders, and dealt with their warranty staff. Whatever status they have in the market, they earned it.
Hey, if the person riding this bike is a casual rider, then any bike should hold up. But if he did Case Mtn 3 times a week, I bet you will see the problems very quickly.
very true, if u are a big rider go for the best in ur class. but most ppl are not professionals, so go with the best u can afford and like. the big companies sometimes charge more because they have to advertise, sponsor ppl, and they do the r&d. just like drug companies charge a lot for certain drugs cuz it took them years to make it and get it approved. even tho it cost them $.10 a pill they not gonna give it away for free. they have to make up for past cost (patents). once that goes out, its free for all. certain gear is made for certain ppl. not everyone needs gear for mtn everst. he is correct, disc brakes dont mean everything. gotta look at the forest and not the tree, but then u gotta know ur expectations (cant go cage fighting if u cant fight).
the specialized will ride better if u use it for the rt thing. the ibex will get u places and a little more if thats what u want to do. companies dont matter crap most of the time. none of these bikes are CUSTOM built like mcfarens. no one puts their signatures on it. its an assembly line then someone puts it together. hopefully they inspect everyone and not randomly like most things in this world.
hell i got a specialized (2006 hardtail) for about $250 off msrp. how they do that,...all damn profit!! but then that's their job to make money and my job to save money.
the specialized will ride better if u use it for the rt thing. the ibex will get u places and a little more if thats what u want to do. companies dont matter crap most of the time. none of these bikes are CUSTOM built like mcfarens. no one puts their signatures on it. its an assembly line then someone puts it together. hopefully they inspect everyone and not randomly like most things in this world.
hell i got a specialized (2006 hardtail) for about $250 off msrp. how they do that,...all damn profit!! but then that's their job to make money and my job to save money.