[Tenchiro]

If we are gonna legalize thigs that are only now illegal based on religious taboos, why not go all the way.

I now pronounce you man and wife and wife, you may kiss the brides.

:devil:

On the other hand, What do bigamy and monogamy have in common?














































They're both one wife too many.

 

[LordOpie]

in the old days, you could have multiple wives, you just had to be able to support 'em. So, sure, if you can afford 'em.

 

[RhinofromWA]

Originally posted by Tenchiro

They're both one wife too many.

Damn you! I am an accountant. I am not supposed to bust out laughing, they will know I am up to sh!t

 

[brock]

The best solution is to get rid of marriage.

 

[MMike]

Originally posted by brock
The best solution is to get rid of marriage.

Just what every girl dreams of hearing their man say!

 

[Silver]

Yes, but only between adults. No 13 year old girls getting married to 60 year old men in polygamy country...

 

[Serial Midget]

Originally posted by Silver
Yes, but only between adults. No 13 year old girls getting married to 60 year old men in polygamy country...

So no Mormons then?

 

[Tenchiro]

Originally posted by Silver
Yes, but only between adults. No 13 year old girls getting married to 60 year old men in polygamy country...

I am highly against people pulling an Elvis.

 

[Serial Midget]

What about a Jerry Lewis? I've got a 13 year old cousin I've been hiding from BurlySurly...

 

[ohio]

It's only partly related, but are there any cases of polygamy with one woman and multiple men? how about more than one of each?

 

[DRB]

Originally posted by ohio
It's only partly related, but are there any cases of polygamy with one woman and multiple men? how about more than one of each?

No way. Women are too damn smart to have more than one husband.

 

[Silver]

Originally posted by ohio
It's only partly related, but are there any cases of polygamy with one woman and multiple men? how about more than one of each?

Polyandry? I've heard of it, but mostly in the animal world. I've heard of cases of it in Tibet, but I don't have time to look for sources right now...

As for more than one of each, that's right out of a Heinlein book

 

[BurlyShirley]

Originally posted by Serial Midget
What about a Jerry Lewis? I've got a 13 year old cousin I've been hiding from BurlySurly...

What's that ya say? Is she hot? Lets see some pics.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Originally posted by ohio
It's only partly related, but are there any cases of polygamy with one woman and multiple men? how about more than one of each?

Remember that slippery slope we talked about before?

 

[valve bouncer]

Originally posted by ohio
how about more than one of each?

That's called an orgy Ohio

 

[RideND]

Originally posted by Silver
Polyandry? I've heard of it, but mostly in the animal world. I've heard of cases of it in Tibet, but I don't have time to look for sources right now...

As for more than one of each, that's right out of a Heinlein book

I believe we learned in History that they do this in parts of Africa.
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[Zoso]

Apples and Oranges.

A gay marriage would be 2 consenting adults deciding to spend their lives together.

Women who are raised in a Polygamist family will see that as normal. They won't have the luxury of picking their husband, or whether they will be in a monogomous relationship. I'm pretty sure most Polygamist marriages are arranged.

 

[Tenchiro]

Originally posted by Zoso
Apples and Oranges.

A gay marriage would be 2 consenting adults deciding to spend their lives together.

Women who are raised in a Polygamist family will see that as normal. They won't have the luxury of picking their husband, or whether they will be in a monogomous relationship. I'm pretty sure most Polygamist marriages are arranged.

Polygamy just means you have multiple wives, not marying your daughters and crap.

 

[Zoso]

Sorry, my post was a bit confusing. I meant that Polygamy is usually exclusive to a community, so that when a daughter is raised, she considers polygamy to be the only way to live your life. She isn't given any other options (ie monogamy).

 

[ummbikes]

Originally posted by Zoso
Sorry, my post was a bit confusing. I meant that Polygamy is usually exclusive to a community, so that when a daughter is raised, she considers polygamy to be the only way to live your life. She isn't given any other options (ie monogamy).

 

[Tenchiro]

Originally posted by Zoso
Sorry, my post was a bit confusing. I meant that Polygamy is usually exclusive to a community, so that when a daughter is raised, she considers polygamy to be the only way to live your life. She isn't given any other options (ie monogamy).

You could say the same thing about any lifestyle though. Whether it be polygamy, christian science, vegetarianism, or whatever.

 

[RhinofromWA]

Originally posted by Tenchiro
You could say the same thing about any lifestyle though. Whether it be polygamy, christian science, vegetarianism, or whatever.

In Homer Simpson voice. "those damn vegitarians........"



My GF is one.......so I can talk smack

 

[Zoso]

Originally posted by Tenchiro
You could say the same thing about any lifestyle though. Whether it be polygamy, christian science, vegetarianism, or whatever.

Right, but we were talking about it in comparison to gay marriage. No one is forced to be gay, but some people are forced to live a polygamist lifestyle.

 

[Tenchiro]

Originally posted by Zoso
Right, but we were talking about it in comparison to gay marriage. No one is forced to be gay, but some people are forced to live a polygamist lifestyle.

I just compared the two because they are both laws based on religious taboo. Again you could say the same thing about any lifestyle, the children involved would certainly be influenced but would it be harmful to them?

There are cases of children being harmed by the Christian Science beleif. Parents have refused to seek proper treatment for illnesses and instead resorted to prayer, which has led to the death of the child in some cases. Yet, that is an acceptable lifestyle in the eyes of scociety.

Children raised in a polygamist family, may have a different view than those raised in a traditional family. But that in and of itself does not mean they are any worse off for it.

 

[Zoso]

I guess it depends on your opinion of "worse off". I think that kids/teens are smarter than we give them credit for. They should be presented with as much unbiased material as possible and then be allowed to decide how to live their lives. It just seems like polygamist children don't get nearly as many opportunities as most other children. That's why I'm slightly opposed to polygamy, not because of some religious taboo.

 

[RhinofromWA]

I could never find 2 women to put up with me at the same time

so I am against polygamy.

 

[Silver]

Originally posted by Zoso
I guess it depends on your opinion of "worse off". I think that kids/teens are smarter than we give them credit for. They should be presented with as much unbiased material as possible and then be allowed to decide how to live their lives. It just seems like polygamist children don't get nearly as many opportunities as most other children. That's why I'm slightly opposed to polygamy, not because of some religious taboo.

I think you're like me. Not opposed to polygamy itself, but worried about how relgious and family pressure might push some people toward something they wouldn't have chosen for themselves.

 

[Tenchiro]

Originally posted by Zoso
I guess it depends on your opinion of "worse off". I think that kids/teens are smarter than we give them credit for. They should be presented with as much unbiased material as possible and then be allowed to decide how to live their lives. It just seems like polygamist children don't get nearly as many opportunities as most other children. That's why I'm slightly opposed to polygamy, not because of some religious taboo.

I am not sure what you mean, how would these chioldren receive any less opportunities than anyone else?

 

[Zoso]

Originally posted by Silver
I think you're like me. Not opposed to polygamy itself, but worried about how relgious and family pressure might push some people toward something they wouldn't have chosen for themselves.

Yeah, thats right. Like me, I was raised Christian, and still am essentially, but I've been having a real crisis of faith lately. But that's ok, I'm not afraid of that. One should always be questioning their beliefs, always be open to interpretation and modification.

 

[Zoso]

Originally posted by Tenchiro
I am not sure what you mean, how would these chioldren receive any less opportunities than anyone else?

Because they will live and die in an exclusive community without any knowledge of other religions, lifestyles, etc.

 

[Tenchiro]

Originally posted by Zoso
Yeah, thats right. Like me, I was raised Christian, and still am essentially, but I've been having a real crisis of faith lately. But that's ok, I'm not afraid of that. One should always be questioning their beliefs, always be open to interpretation and modification.

How would polygamist children be prevented from this though. It seems to me anybody can question the way they were raised and what beleif systems were imposed on them by their parents.

 

[Tenchiro]

Originally posted by Zoso
Because they will live and die in an exclusive community without any knowledge of other religions, lifestyles, etc.

I think we are arguing two different things. I think of polygamy as simply having two wives and nothing else. Not living in special communities or anything like that.

 

[Zoso]

Originally posted by Tenchiro
How would polygamist children be prevented from this though. It seems to me anybody can question the way they were raised and what beleif systems were imposed on them by their parents.

When you are part of a nitch religion that lives alone, it seems like the parents would do just about anything to keep their kids in the flock. Why do you think they live alone? So other kids can't tell them that their parents are "different" and "weird". To keep all outside influences away from their kids.

 

[Zoso]

Originally posted by Tenchiro
I think we are arguing two different things. I think of polygamy as simply having two wives and nothing else. Not living in special communities or anything like that.

The only way that polygamy still survives today is that they live in their own communities so other people can't (a) arrest them, and (b) teach their children other ways of living your life. Also, it usually involves more than 2 wives, I saw a story about a guy with 6, and like 20-some odd kids.

 

[Silver]

Originally posted by Tenchiro
I think we are arguing two different things. I think of polygamy as simply having two wives and nothing else. Not living in special communities or anything like that.

Technically, that is bigamy, isn't it?

For an interesting look at what Zoso is talking about, pick up Kraukauer's newest book, Under the Banner of Heaven. Intersting stuff in there about polygamist communities.

 

[Tenchiro]

Originally posted by Zoso
When you are part of a nitch religion that lives alone, it seems like the parents would do just about anything to keep their kids in the flock. Why do you think they live alone? So other kids can't tell them that their parents are "different" and "weird". To keep all outside influences away from their kids.

Originally posted by Zoso
The only way that polygamy still survives today is that they live in their own communities so other people can't (a) arrest them, and (b) teach their children other ways of living your life. Also, it usually involves more than 2 wives, I saw a story about a guy with 6, and like 20-some odd kids.

When I brought this up I really didn't mean to tie it in with any current lifestyles that go along with it. But any child raised in that kind of closed environment, where they are sheltered from the real world would have problems. But I don't think that is exclusive to polygamists though, as any extremist could form the same community and base it on entirely different principles.

 

[Zoso]

Originally posted by Tenchiro
But I don't think that is exclusive to polygamists though, as any extremist could form the same community and base it on entirely different principles.

Quite true, quite true.

 

[Damn True]

I was married for over eight years. In that time I never once wished for an additional wife. One is plenty, and frequently too many.