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If you were to vote against Bush, why?

Why?

  • budget / economy

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • War in Iraq / foreign policies

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • domestic policies like medicare, education

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • other

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • Total voters
    13

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
I chose the budget... his fiscal irresponsibility is starting to scare me. I heard on the radio tonight some staggering numbers and the fact that baby-boomers are due to retire soon.

Plus, this is just stupid...
"We went through a recession, we were attacked and we're fighting a war. These are high hurdles for a budget and for a country to overcome and yet we've overcome them," Bush said of his budget, which would cut funding for about half of the 15 Cabinet-level agencies.link
What about the tax cuts?!! :angry:

I don't mind being lied to about the war, well, mostly cuz I knew it at the time. But don't lie to us why the budget is so messed up... that's far more B&W than foreign policy.

So, if you won't be voting for Bush, why?
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
Originally posted by ohio
No "all of the above" option?
Guess I should have phrased the question... Which one of the many^x reasons would you not vote for Bush? ;) :devil:

where x = frustration + disappoint; (scale 1-10)

Just curious about which issue in particular is everyone's biggest problem.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
56,392
22,468
Sleazattle
Originally posted by N8
I'd rather vote for Ronald Regan myself but since he ain't running...............

Dude, Ronnies practically a vegetable right now and I heard his astrologer died. On second thought he would probably still be a better pres.

I'll probably write in for McCain.

I am not voting for Bush mainly due to foreign policy and domestic policy and a bad budget.
 
Like Ohio, I would have liked the "all of the above" answer. There is no one thing that bothers me more than another about Bush. I guess I really began to dislike him when he coined the phrase "Compassionate Conservative". The Reublicans have taken the original idea of Conservatism and mutated it into some kind of movement based on morals and faith based doctrine. As a born again, one day at a time reformee, Bush fits nicely into that pattern. So, I will vote against Bush because of his position at the top of the ruined Conservative movement.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
6,649
26
SF, CA
Originally posted by LordOpie
Guess I should have phrased the question... Which one of the many^x reasons would you not vote for Bush? ;) :devil:
If it were just one of the above issues, I'd probably be voting for him. I could tolerate his war in Iraq, if he were protecting the environment, our civil liberties, our children, and our economy. I could deal with the defecit and his spending habits, if he wasn't a corrupt war-monger. I could justify his views on morals and family values, if I didn't see him handing out favors at the expense of our last great wilderness areas, Enron employees, and our international relations.

It's not one thing. It's everything. The man, quite literally, stands for everything that makes me lose faith in humanity.
 

ummbikes

Don't mess with the Santas
Apr 16, 2002
1,794
0
Napavine, Warshington
Originally posted by ohio
If it were just one of the above issues, I'd probably be voting for him. I could tolerate his war in Iraq, if he were protecting the environment, our civil liberties, our children, and our economy. I could deal with the defecit and his spending habits, if he wasn't a corrupt war-monger. I could justify his views on morals and family values, if I didn't see him handing out favors at the expense of our last great wilderness areas, Enron employees, and our international relations.

It's not one thing. It's everything. The man, quite literally, stands for everything that makes me lose faith in humanity.
I hate to just say, "what he said", but what he said.

I'll add in that "No child left behind" is not only impossible to acheive but makes no sense in a market economy. We need workers and we also should not assume that being educated in any way makes a person a better worker or well adjusted. For that matter who are any of us to say that being a worker is anything but a noble honorable existance?
 

fluff

Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
5,673
2
Feeling the lag
Originally posted by LordOpie

I don't mind being lied to about the war, well, mostly cuz I knew it at the time. But don't lie to us why the budget is so messed up... that's far more B&W than foreign policy.
So you didn't mind being lied to about the war because you knew you were being lied to, yeah? However, it appears that you know that you are being lied to about the economy also, so why should the lying bother you now?

If you break that down it implies you care more about the economy than the war.
 

Ridemonkey

This is not an active account
Sep 18, 2002
4,108
1
Toronto, Canada
Originally posted by ohio
If it were just one of the above issues, I'd probably be voting for him. I could tolerate his war in Iraq, if he were protecting the environment, our civil liberties, our children, and our economy. I could deal with the defecit and his spending habits, if he wasn't a corrupt war-monger. I could justify his views on morals and family values, if I didn't see him handing out favors at the expense of our last great wilderness areas, Enron employees, and our international relations.

It's not one thing. It's everything. The man, quite literally, stands for everything that makes me lose faith in humanity.
Ditto.
 

I Are Baboon

Vagina man
Aug 6, 2001
32,818
10,991
MTB New England
I would choose the first two.

His adminitration spends money like it's Monopoly money. Totally out of control.

As far as the war in Iraq goes, I was a supporter of the war and still am, but the whole WMD thing has kind of pissed me off. He was so conviced we'd find stockpiles, he had me believing. Now I feel like I have been lied to and I don't like that. I don't buy that poor intelligence crap as an excuse. When an error that big is made, someone has to lose their job over it, and that someone should be Bush.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
Originally posted by fluff
If you break that down it implies you care more about the economy than the war.
That's correct. There's a difference tho... there IS a chance that the war will be much better for Iraq and the region. Only time will tell. There is no benefit to running the deficit as they are and that will have global consequences.
 

llkoolkeg

Ranger LL
Sep 5, 2001
4,335
15
in da shed, mon, in da shed
Originally posted by fluff
That's the funniest thing you've ever posted.
I agree with it. You stay the course until a better option comes along. Do you quit your position before accepting another you perceive to be better? Do you dump your girlfriend before securing an alternate outlet for your carnal necessities? Look before you leap, man!
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
Originally posted by llkoolkeg
I agree with it. You stay the course until a better option comes along. Do you quit your position before accepting another you perceive to be better? Do you dump your girlfriend before securing an alternate outlet for your carnal necessities? Look before you leap, man!
We're talking about BS... he dumps his "g/f" while she's still in bed :eek: ;) :devil:
 

Tweek

I Love Cheap Beer!
How about this "investigation" that he is initiating? :confused: Results won't be conclusive until after the election. Who's he fooling?!
Let's see, the war in Iraq, an administration that tries to keep the population in check by fear, a Prez and VP who protect their thieving cronies in big business, and who won't take a hard stance on Saudi Arabia?

4 more years for sure! :rolleyes: