Akula_7 said:
zedro said:
leprechaun said:
:dancing: 
Yep, me too. Real mellow terrorists with perma-grins.partsbara said:i have bought drugs before, therefore i support terrorists
Equal strength. The USA version will be slightly lighter due to use of a proprietary alloy. Identical geometry and suspension performance.Akula_7 said:
ohio said:
Could Iron Horse be a new line for Go-Ride? I sure hope so cause I'm looking for a good online IH dealer.leprechaun said:
terrorist!!!Jm_ said:
SHHHHH!! Don't tell anyone he lives in my shed in my back yard!dexterq20 said:Careful with the "T" word, you're gonna get RM shut down for an FBI investigation. They'll probably think we're hiding Osama.
i'm developping a nefarious plan to assault america with my own brand of super-fatty foods. If you can beat 'em, make 'em really fat and lethargic....ChrisRobin said:SHHHHH!! Don't tell anyone he lives in my shed in my back yard!
He's developed quite a taste for poutine!!
Yeah but what do you do with them at that point?? I guess you could roll them off into the Grand Canyon, EH?!zedro said:
yeah, hopefully somewhere self-cleaningChrisRobin said:Yeah but what do you do with them at that point?? I guess you could roll them off into the Grand Canyon, EH?!
Better materials... where do you think they buy all their materials from. That's right from the U.S. As a metal fabricator the cost of metal has gone up 175% since last Feb because Bush signed a tarriff saying that China must use our raw goods for any products heading to the U.S.(and that huge dam there building) More bikes are made there than you think. Giant makes more than 50% of what is on the market. That's why their called Giant. From what I understand Taiwan can't design a good bike to save their lives, but they can copy anything no problem. The old made in the USA means assembled in the USAmost of the time. Of course I'm not talking about the small companys. Soon even that will change if they want to stay in business. These days if the designer is good it does not matter where it was made. If your on a budget go with the Taiwanese frame. I really don't think they will be much different.Akula_7 said:
Our turners have 0.5" more travel and 0.6" higher bottom bracket unweighted. I know it sounds low but I don't think the 13.9 will be a problem. I think the smooth corner pumpitude might be worth it.RiDurbin said:
You seriously think 13.9 is ok on an 8" bike? You may not slam the BB into rocks, but your pedals are going to be hurting. Trail bikes (not freeride bikes) are generally made as low as possible for the given travel. My foes is 13.7, which is the same as a 5-spot, except I have .75" more travel than a 5-spot. With 170mm cranks I do a good deal of "rock clipping" and have to put out an effort to make sure that I don't clip all sorts of rocks. Compared to my last two bikes, this one loves to clip the rocks with the pedals. The IH won't be unridable, but I except to see some real beat-up pedals on them...kidwoo said:
Yo man,RiDurbin said:
JM, its MORE than OK, its awesome! Maybe the BB could be considered too low for some brand-X bike that mashes through the travel when you accelerate on it, but dw-link eliminates that issue for the Sunday. You should give the bike a try before you comment further. I bet you will reconsider after you take a couple of runs. To be fair, I was as skeptical/ scared as anyone wehn we first decided to try this, but due to Sam and Bryn's prodding, and a lot of ergonomic modeling, everything really worked out. All Im asking is for you to give it a fair shake first, adn see what you think. If the bike is set up for you, I bet you will be pretty stoked on it.Jm_ said:
I'm no fan of Iron Horse, based mostly on their past bikes. But I do know that with greater attention being payed to dw's research and a pretty successful race crew for feedback, they're putting out frames this year that are certainly worthy of checking out. Just ride the damn thing and then worry about your pedals when it happens. They way I've got most of my bikes set up, I usually end up dragging my bottombracket housing on the ground on hard corners anyway.........and I like it.Jm_ said:
I took your bike for a spin and it was set up for your skinny ass, and it still pedaled like a hardtail. You are right It didnt bob downwards under acceleration, come to think of it, it didnt bob at all.dw said:
