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Il y a des nouvelles sur les composants 'LARGE'

CreeP

Monkey
Mar 8, 2002
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montreal bitch
les potences Large

in english, Large has updated their website and their email is now live.

go check it out

for those who haven't clicked the link yet here's a transcript of my correspondence with Paul Harris of Large:

[me]Last time i emailed you guys the email service wasn't up, hoping that
things are now different.

Well I've noticed you've changed the layout of the page and added the
prices. Partly because it looked so neat and made by someone who used
to work for Balfa, I said in some internet forums that as soon as i see
a Bullmoose Clamp i will buy it. The thing is that the price is
noticeably higher than either RF Diabolus or Thomson. How do you
justify that price bracket? I mean i don't blame you as far as the cost
of manufacture is concerned but it is about as much as you can spend on
a stem. Food for thought anyway.

I do have some more direct questions, like:
What is the reach of the bullmoose Clamp?
Will they be available in different rises and lengths?
[/me]

[paul]
We have not delivered any product to shops as of yet. All product made has
gone to field testing or bench testing by our custom designed destructive
tester. The product is now in the last stage of design change prior to
production. Deliveries to the shops will be made in February 2005. Initially
it will only be available as described on the web page as bullmoose clamp or
bullmoose screw with a reach of 40mm. Future variations are in preliminary
design stages and we are not ready to release them yet. . The price bracket
is justified by the record setting low weight for a stem of this stiffness
and the other features such as the fact that you can' t strip the threads in
the stem because there are none, quick bar replacement for races, etc. The
cost of the part is easily explained. In manufacturing, the more material
you remove from the stem, the more it costs, since it takes more CNC machine
time and complex shapes also use more expensive multiple axis CNC machines:
a double whammy. A square hunk of aluminum with couple of holes in it such
as made by some of our competitors is actually quite cheap to make as
opposed to a Large stem. So with a Large , you are actually paying for
expensive manufacturing required to execute this advanced design and not
just for a name.
[/paul]

the horse's mouth speaketh

avast ye
 

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
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austin
so, it's been a year since i've been in french, but can you translate " Il y a des nouvelles sur les composants 'LARGE'" for me. i'm reading it as "There's new on Large components." at some point in time i have to take 2 more semesters, and i'm trying to keep some smidgen of the language in my head.
 

Acadian

Born Again Newbie
Sep 5, 2001
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Blah Blah and Blah
the Inbred said:
so, it's been a year since i've been in french, but can you translate " Il y a des nouvelles sur les composants 'LARGE'" for me. i'm reading it as "There's new on Large components." at some point in time i have to take 2 more semesters, and i'm trying to keep some smidgen of the language in my head.
"There are news about Large Components"
 

CreeP

Monkey
Mar 8, 2002
695
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montreal bitch
more q&a with paul:

[me]
Is a 31.8mm clamp in the pipe? The oversize bars seem to be rather
popular.
I've heard talk that a hinged clamp can't generate sufficient clamping
force, what's your take?
[/me]

[paul]
We have a preliminary design for 31.8, but it is still early.

If you think about it, a stem with a hinged clamp is really like a cap
that is permanently fixed on one side, so unless its designed wrong, its not
an issue.
[/paul]
 

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
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Sand, CA
hrm, i never liked the syncros hinge stem. not really into that one either.
 

Kornphlake

Turbo Monkey
Oct 8, 2002
2,632
1
Portland, OR
the other features such as the fact that you can' t strip the threads in
the stem because there are none,
How do those screws hold the handlebar clamp in without threads? Sounds like somebody is fabricating marketing jargon left and right just so he can sell a stem or two.
 

ED75

Monkey
Dec 3, 2003
174
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France
zedro said:
There IS news....sheesh :rolleyes: :p
and it says there are no ALUMINUM threads, meaning he probaly uses SS inserts. Guess he wanted/needed to use smaller screws
You mean ALUMINIUM ?????? (in French) :D ;) ..... I'm gone ..........
 

CreeP

Monkey
Mar 8, 2002
695
0
montreal bitch
[me]how tall is the steerer clamp section?
How are there no threads to strip? Helicoil? Nuts on the underside of
the stem?
[/me]

[paul]clamp height is 29mm. to allow it to fit any previously cut steerer. Use
spacers in case you want to change it later.
yes, removable nuts in countersink on underside of stem.
[/paul]