Article: Hawkish Democrat Calls for Iraq Pullout http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20051117/D8DUC3C81.html <snip> Murtha, a Marine intelligence officer in Vietnam, angrily shot back at Cheney: "I like guys who've never been there that criticize us who've been there. I like that. I like guys who got five deferments and never been there and send people to war, and then don't like to hear suggestions about what needs to be done." </snip> I agree 100%. It's one of the things that bothers me most about this administration. So much so, that I ended my military career for good.