When will America finally embrace the metric system? 
Imperial Units...WTF?
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The what?
Imperial pints FTW.
NEVER!!! When the US eventually takes over the world we'll just make everyone convert to our units of measurement.
AMERICA... F*** YEAH!
AMERICA... F*** YEAH!
I found this awesome poem thanks to Wikipedia.
I find proficiency in both to be both easy and beneficial.
Only beneficial because we still use both, as well, sure the imperial system is easy, but metric is easier.
I just programed all the unit conversions into my calculator, even things like torque and densities,
We don't use imperial units in the United States.
Lol wut?
QFT. That is all.NEVER!!! When the US eventually takes over the world we'll just make everyone convert to our units of measurement.
AMERICA... F*** YEAH!
Oh-- Almost forgot-- AMERICA... F*** YEAH!
I get questioned every Christmas by my dad and oldest bro when my list contains tools of the metric variety. 'Why do you only want metric?' 'What, no standard sizes?' etc. No drivey american car-- my bikes have no standard sized anything-- in fact, I can think of very little that I actually need imp. sizes for...
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25.4!
Customary units, somewhat of an evolution of Imperial units. Neither makes a whole lot of sense compared to the metric system.
It's necessary when you draw plans for a living and I always like feet and inches, but I saw the light after the first set of plans that I drew with the metric system. It's much simpler when you're having to swap back and forth between various scales.
Plus it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for America to use different units of measurements than the rest of the world. Global market, economy, streamlined manufacturing and all that.
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That's an exact conversion too
FTW! American rules!
Spoken like somebody who has never manufactured anything.
Yes, it can be easier to design in metric, but machining and manufacturing in general, it's tough to switch. It is much more expensive to cut a metric thread on standard machinery. There is a reason there are zero metric fasteners on American made airplanes, even with all the global sourcing.
As an engineer I can say anything other than metric is a pain in the ass. It would be wise to use whatever units the Chinese use.
This.....and what I was getting at in my first post.
Try buying metric stock in the US then get back to me.
Uh, Imperial Units != Metric Units.
Hello! Did you read the thread? You should!
tl/dr.
I always loved my F@rd F350 with a mix of both standard AND metric. America, F*CK YEAH!
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Yup, read the entire thread. After all of that, I'm still laughing at the original post by ????? where he titles it "Imperial Units" and then proceeds to gripe that we're not on the "Metric System"... So I'm just pointing out that "Imperial Units"(ie, Imperial Gallon, Imperial Pint, etc) are not "Metric Units".
I use the metric system on my gps and range finders. nobody else uses my stuff
Are you serious right now?
So I skipped a couple posts in the middle of this abortion of a thread, sue me...
Your thought process behind your post is still more baffling to me than the thread subject matter itself.
As an engineer I've pretty much switched to using Metric units at work when I design stuff. It is not only easier but the sizes make sense too. What diameter is a #6-32 screw? Who knows What diameter is a M3 screw? 3mm of course. Plus the selection of metric bearings and seals is much better than standard. I still use inch thicknesses for flat stock just because there isn't a good metric selection, but for any machined part this is not a concern.
I still find it odd how mixed and random the units are for bikes. All fasteners are metric, yet other dimensions are mixed. For example handlebars come in 31.8mm = 1-1/4" and 25.4mm = 1", yet steerer tubes are still measured in inches. Then seat posts come in all sorts of random metric sizes that don't convert to inches. Why 30.9 instead of 31?
What diameter is a M3 screw? 3mm of course. Plus the selection of metric bearings and seals is much better than standard. I still use inch thicknesses for flat stock just because there isn't a good metric selection, but for any machined part this is not a concern.I still find it odd how mixed and random the units are for bikes. All fasteners are metric, yet other dimensions are mixed. For example handlebars come in 31.8mm = 1-1/4" and 25.4mm = 1", yet steerer tubes are still measured in inches. Then seat posts come in all sorts of random metric sizes that don't convert to inches. Why 30.9 instead of 31?
It took me a minute to realize what point you were even trying to make. I had been giving you too much credit all along.
As an engineer I've pretty much switched to using Metric units at work when I design stuff. It is not only easier but the sizes make sense too. What diameter is a #6-32 screw? Who knows
I still find it odd how mixed and random the units are for bikes. All fasteners are metric, yet other dimensions are mixed. For example handlebars come in 31.8mm = 1-1/4" and 25.4mm = 1", yet steerer tubes are still measured in inches. Then seat posts come in all sorts of random metric sizes that don't convert to inches. Why 30.9 instead of 31?
I agree on all counts.....but when designing machined parts I still keep all locational dimensions (overall part size, feature sizes, locations between holes, etc.) in even fractional dimensions whenever possible (1/4", 1/2", 3/4", etc.). This makes machining a lot easier, as 95% of machining (especially manual) is still done in English units in the US....or at least all the machine shops that do work for us (including our in-house shop).
All hardware, bearings, precision shafts, transmission components, pneumatic components, aluminum extrusions, etc. etc I design with are always metric.
Can you explain it to me?........because I still don't get what he's going for.
Is it more expensive for the rest of the world to cut a metric thread? No it is not.
I think he assumed that I was celebrating Imperial units (including it's offspring), and that I was asking why America didn't use the metric system (which he assumed I thought was also called Imperial Units because it has a few different measurements than the US Customary Units).
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Maybe because I knew exactly what you meant he confused the fvck out of me.
So basically he was pointing out some semantics thing?
So basically he was pointing out some semantics thing?
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You make a valid point.
I still don't think I get it/care.
You meant "inches WTF?" and "let's use millimeters!"
That's what I took away from it.
You meant "inches WTF?" and "let's use millimeters!"
That's what I took away from it.
Yea. I like the idea of using the same system of measurements as the rest of the world.