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Discussion in 'Cross Country, All Mountain & Trail Riding' started by mudpie, Mar 2, 2008.

  1. mudpie

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    This will be my new SS 29er that will replace the jabberwocky, the cranks should be in monday night and the build will begin.
    First step was to treat the seat tube and head tube with some frame saver as the other tubes are sealed.

    second step:grease the phil ebb with extra lube to keep it quiet.

    Third:just buld it already :lighten:








     
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    greenchris Turbo Monkey

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  3. mudpie

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    I should be receiving the eno cranks and phil bottom bracket today :monkeydance:


     
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    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    Nice color selection.
     
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  5. mudpie

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    thank you, ever since I have been into the SS thing I have always wanted a metallic midnight blue, but have always had stock frames that did not have that selection, although I do like the short bus yellow on the jabberwocky but alas the midnight blue has arrived........
     
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  6. mudpie

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    not much to choose from with the post 29.4, my first choice would have been an eriksen ti but have always been fine with the thomson stuff as I did not want to shim a post. I do think the brooks saddles provide a nice ride for hardtails so I am going with a ti swift for this build
     
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  7. mudpie

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    Received a little package from Red barn bikes last night, it just happened to show up right after my wife asking how my credit card balance is now higher since we moved, anyway here are my phil wood goodies......

     
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  8. mudpie

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    First time holding these babies in my hands, they appear very well made and look stunning to the eye:weee:


     
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  9. MMcG

    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    Going to be quite the blinging build I take it. Rigid or suspension fork?
     
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    rigid for now, I still have my on one carbon to use for the time being. Not trying to be to blingy but more solid and functional, at least that is the goal..
     
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    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    It'll be one helluva sharp bike when done - I can tell already.

    Keep keeping us updated.
     
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    can someone explain to me the purpose of an ebb bottom bracket. i really don't understand what their purpose is or how exactly they work.
     
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    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    From Sheldon Brown's site:

    Eccentric bottom brackets are sometimes used on single bikes too, especially because they permit adjustment of chain tension without moving the rear axle. This is useful if the bicycle is fitted with a rear disc brake or an internal-geared hub.

    It also allows you to "effectively" change the bottom bracket height on a frame and also seat tube angle and also "effective" chainstay length (say for example you moved the bb so it is in the forward position). Like this example:



    In that image the bb is in a forward position. You could also rotate it so that it was in the rearward position or closer to the chainstays.

    The changes will be subtle, but they will change things a bit.

    Does this help a bit?
     
  14. mudpie

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    I made this flash animation 5 years ago. Things haven't changed much since then :)

    http://tuktok.com/ebb/

    The one in my animation is a set screw style, like the IF in this thread. There are at least two other kinds of EBBs, but the concept is similar.
     
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    i can see what your saying, but to me it doesn't make sense. chain tension makes sense, but the bottom bracket height doesn't actually change, the crank height does slightly just like moving it towards the rear would change things slightly. but for such subtle changes, why bother? i can see it usefull for a fixie with track dropouts to help with chain tension but thats about it.
     
  17. mudpie

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    For me, it comes down to design. I prefer the rear if dropouts and the ability to adjust BB height. I have used all bushnell bbs with good success this will be the first attempt with pinch bolt style, but feel confident with the phil wood bits...
     
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    Beautiful... exactly what I would order for a frame!!

    I am still a bit confused on why ENO cranks are popular or should I say why square taper, mine always gave me grief.
     
  19. mudpie

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    This is my first set of eno cranks, but I personally have had great success with square taper on my middleburns and rf turbines as well. I think proper set up is crucial with square taper and then just regular maintenence, at least thats my expierience.
     
  20. Mr Tiles

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    prolly b/c you didn't properly torque them you noob:busted:

    seriously, that frame is fantastic. I'm not into big wheels but I think this is going to be a stellar lookin' ride!
     
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    Great...another one of your bikes that I can be jealous of....

    Build is going to look incredible. I can't wait to see it in person.
     
  22. mudpie

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    I just need to install the starnut and feed the rear brake line through the guide and maybe need to put in a half link as the tension may not be tight enough




     
  23. MMcG

    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    How's the fit using the brooks saddle? Not much room to move the Brooks around on those rails is there.
     
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    So far in just setting it up, it feels good. Well see once I get a longish ride in how it works, but yeah not much room on the rails.
     
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    What size Schwables did you go with? I want some of those tires but am afraid to order a 2.4 and have this giant tire...
     
  26. mudpie

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    2.4 and its tight in the back...
     
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    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    Those are some mighty high volume tires. What PSI are you gonna run em at?

    Would a setback Thomson help with the short Brooks rails issue do you think?
     
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    Beautiful...Can't wait to hear how it rides. J...I think that one is a keeper.
     
  29. mudpie

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    30 psi and I dont think I will need the seat any farther back, it may go forward a little if anything...
     
  30. mudpie

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    not going anywhere for quite a while
     
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    Maybe your IF's evil twin. similar color and spec.
     

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    Love it, I have a steel deluxe on order. My build will be pretty similar, with the F29, Ralphs, and even the Brooks saddle. One big dif, it will be a gearie, I'm not as pure as you. How long did you wait for your frame? I'll post pics when its built, maybe they can be friends.

    Looks Great!!
     
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    Thanks, once the drawing was in it only took 3 weeks, I may have to put the smaller ralph 2.25 out back, I thought it rubbed once or twice lastnight. I will have to take the tire off and inpect today.
     
  34. MMcG

    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    nice lookin bike right there Steve! Let's see more of that beauty. :thumb:
     
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    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    Hey - welcome to the Monkey! I recognize that user name from somewhere else. ;)

    Keep this forum posted on your gearie IF as things get rolling and if they provide you with visual build updates etc. etc.

    Cheers,

    Mark
     
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    I will keep you posted. Afterall, its all I can think about. You know how it is.

    Hey Mudpie, did IF ever give you visual updates etc...? I placed my order with Speed Goat almost 2 weeks ago. They have not charged my card yet which makes me think that the drawings are still being passed back and forth.

    I wish I had a better idea of what is going on so that I can know when to put my current bike up for sale. Don't want to do it too early and be stuck without a bike. I asked Speed Goat a week ago what my ship time would be and they told me 5 weeks. I guess I should just give them the bennefit of the doubt.
     
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    You should be contacted when the drawing is done and at that point they will ask for the deposit, then you will have afew weeks to unload your current bike....
     
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    Looks good. I've been known to like a blue bike before.

    You know the whole time I've known you, you pined to own another one. Now you have two!

    Turner whore or IF whore?


    :cheers:,
    D.
     
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    Steve builds a great frame...a friend of ours rides a white on down here in Atlanta...I believe you have met him before Steve! :thumb:

    Any more ride reports mp? I know you said it's a great ride after you Bent Creek break-in run when I talked it you....
     
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    Finally Built.