Intense 29er DH bike
- Thread starter iRider
- Start date
-
- Tags
- e-speculativequeers.
Figured I would rehash the Intense thread, not the current one
That being said, I rode one properly for the first time 2 weekends ago...
um, we know you have a camera, so
Pics of you riding a bike.
oh, I know....I still remember the first time it was 'cool'
hmm, wow, didn't know you cared...Pics of you riding a bike.
I don't have any pics, but you can ask THE pat branch
, he took a pic of me doing runs in tahoe once, or joe lawwill followed me down chiquita trail with gopro few weeks ago, ask him. Or ask the Parkins, Fraser...dunno who else, but I get my shred on pretty good.just wanted something new to look at. That's all. THought you might be holding out on us.
hah, here's Stik at Northstar.
Did not know there was a 29er Zokes or is he on his M9
Last edited:
That was my first thought but I think that's just a regular M9. I think pat was just posting a pic to prove Stik rides
I got a little excited to see a new 29er fork but I think he is on the M9.
At least we know now he went down the trail once
At least we know now he went down the trail once
dh 29'ers make perfect sense for guys of your stature. i could totally see someone like peatty rock one full time. 26ers look like toys under big guys.
and i love the purple anno. the 90's were awesome.
I walked most of the way, and had my 5 yr old daughter show me how to take a sick fireroad section.
So is that your M0 or is Zokes coming out with a 29er DH fork.I walked most of the way, and had my 5 yr old daughter show me how to take a sick fireroad section.
We knew that all along. You cant hide anything from us E-riders
Purple rocks. That is why my M9 is chrome purple. We call it Grimace
siko, that bike was an M9 proto, with a monocoque rear end!
I been trying to get Marz to proceed with a 29er fork, but I'd imagine they are tired of me asking for it.
I been trying to get Marz to proceed with a 29er fork, but I'd imagine they are tired of me asking for it.
Wait, what? Not photoshopped?I walked most of the way, and had my 5 yr old daughter show me how to take a sick fireroad section.
Stop teasing us and give us some more results of the 29er vs. 26er tests!
This might have been mentioned in another thread but in case it hasn't...
JD took 5th on a 29er...
2011 Fontana Winter Series Round #4
JD took 5th on a 29er...
2011 Fontana Winter Series Round #4
JD claims to be entering every DH race on a 29er. Might have an M29'er in the works.
So you guys got him some proper 29" DH tires???
Looks like you can sort of make out "WTB" on his sidewall in that pic. Maybe with proper tires he would have placed higher...
I thought it would read ITS.Looks like you can sort of make out "WTB" on his sidewall in that pic. Maybe with proper tires he would have placed higher...
Damn, is he high or something
Damn, is he high or something
Build an extra one in Large for me. Chrome purple also
ok i'll bite...
i still think 29er DH is a solution in search of a problem. arguments for it's use in XC riding/racing has it's valid points, but i think DH is enough of a different animal to make 29er use much less appealing.
interesting concept but doubtful of its viability for widespread DH applications, nor do i support it.
at my most superficial but strongest bias against 29ers, my perception is that it was introduced by "dirt-roadies" to make mountain bikes alittle more like road bikes. what draws me to mountain biking (particularly gravity orientated disciplines) is that the culture, riding style, technology is everything that ghey road riding is not.
there i said it, i think road riding/racing is boring and ghey.
sorry if i offended anyone. i guess i'll be seeing some neg rep.
i still think 29er DH is a solution in search of a problem. arguments for it's use in XC riding/racing has it's valid points, but i think DH is enough of a different animal to make 29er use much less appealing.
interesting concept but doubtful of its viability for widespread DH applications, nor do i support it.
at my most superficial but strongest bias against 29ers, my perception is that it was introduced by "dirt-roadies" to make mountain bikes alittle more like road bikes. what draws me to mountain biking (particularly gravity orientated disciplines) is that the culture, riding style, technology is everything that ghey road riding is not.
there i said it, i think road riding/racing is boring and ghey.
sorry if i offended anyone. i guess i'll be seeing some neg rep.
Last edited:
I'm always suprised at the amount of cultural baggage that people like to hang onto a wheel, which at the end of the day, is just 3" larger in diameter than the current standard mountain bike wheel. I guess I just don't understand how a wheel that will potentially allow a rider to hit gnarlier stuff faster makes the sport more like road biking. To my knowledge there isn't a single bike component out there that changes a rider's personality, so why would a different size wheel do that? If you put 29" wheels on your bike would you be concerned that you'd suddenly start acting like someone who engages in "ghey road riding"? I guess I'm just confused.
As far as the idea of the big wheels being a "solution in search of a problem", I think of it more as a proposed way to improve performance. I bet there were some people in the 90s that felt that MTB suspension was a solution in search of a problem as well. We don't yet know if it's applicable across a wide variety of terrain/race course types because we don't have all the componentry yet to make a full on dh race worthy 29" rig. I'm not saying it definitely will be an improvement or it won't, I'm just saying nobody knows yet.
As far as the idea of the big wheels being a "solution in search of a problem", I think of it more as a proposed way to improve performance. I bet there were some people in the 90s that felt that MTB suspension was a solution in search of a problem as well. We don't yet know if it's applicable across a wide variety of terrain/race course types because we don't have all the componentry yet to make a full on dh race worthy 29" rig. I'm not saying it definitely will be an improvement or it won't, I'm just saying nobody knows yet.
^ how dare you come here with an objective & rational perspective?
the cultural baggage attachment to material stuff is an interesting phenomenon for sure. people seem to want to identify with particular subcategories. the distain for fellow bikers of different subcategories is just weird to me. smacks of insecurity. me, i like bikes of all shapes & uses. diversity is fun.
the cultural baggage attachment to material stuff is an interesting phenomenon for sure. people seem to want to identify with particular subcategories. the distain for fellow bikers of different subcategories is just weird to me. smacks of insecurity. me, i like bikes of all shapes & uses. diversity is fun.
Last edited:
Oh yeah it does! It is normal that when you get a new part you are in love with the performance and swear you would never ride anything else. That wears off after a while and people become 'normal' again. Happened when full suspension hit (way back, remember?). A bunch of friends claimed that they never would ride rigid again. But now nearly all of them have a full rigid hardtail single speed that they play on in the winter/mud. Few people switching to 29ers stay that open minded towards other wheel sizes. They get rid of one cultural baggage and load up on another one....and defend it religiously! There must be some kind of personality transformation going on, or how would you explain that? I think the open-mindness you are asking for has to go both ways.
And now, can we please get some facts e.g. freelap data comparing 29 vs 26 from the same rider, same day, same track? Stik, why not send JD to the 1:04 with a 2951 and a 951?
yep I admit it, my prejudice is personal and irrational. I am fairly open minded in general but just not about this issue I guess.
Why do DH bikes have more suspension travel and slacker angles than XC bikes? Why do DH bikes constantly tweak suspension geometry and shock settings? How many times do you hear about square edge bump performance? All of those things are to allow riders to go faster over rough terrain. A 29" wheel rolls over obstacles and square edges better than a 26" wheel and has a larger contact patch that yields more grip; these are facts not opinions. Therefore it only makes sense that the next evolution of DH bikes in search of more speed in rough terrain is to use 29" wheels.
I'm not sure what that has to do with road bikes or road racing or road culture, but I don't enjoy any road related stuff either. I do however have a 29er SS rigid MTB for winter trail riding.
2.8 seconds faster on average on one certain trail in timed testing.
if the UCI allows 29'er dh bikes, does this mean skin suits will make a comeback?
Last edited:
29ers
skinsuits
no visors
and sauced up
2012 Monster World Cup Series (no more UCI)
Boom! Headshot.
I do not think 29er DH bikes will be the wave of the future, in fact I'm not a huge fan at all except in fully ridge form. The 29er DH bikes are part of the quest for better parts/bikes. Even bad ideas are responsible for newer better ideas to come to fruition. Also the statement Why do DH bikes constantly tweak suspension geometry and shock settings? Answer: That's the changes that push our sport. The rider pushes the industry to make changes some are good some are not so good. This is hardly a reason to change a wheel standard. Look at motocross the bikes change geometry almost every year. Just because I dont like the 29er doesn't mean I dont want to try riding one, or people should stop making new versions.
A rational and fair thing to note about 29ers or any other wheelsize is it will be faster/better suited in some conditions and slower/worse in others by virtue of the geometry possible and the characteristics of the wheels themselves - that will never change. Of course there will be DH trails or sections where 29ers make sense just as some people still ride 24s on some DH trails and 20s have their places in other types of riding - there is a right and wrong place for certain tools.
Few people can afford to change their bike setup to suit the course in regards to wheelsize and unless most DH trails are designed or best suited to 29ers, it doesn't matter to the average rider that there a few situation where a 29er would be a good option especially at the premium for 29er parts. Its another trend bike companies push to move product and I can understand after having so many shoved on the market, trend after trend, why people don't like yet another one. It should be presented honestly rather than trying to sell it as something more that.
Few people can afford to change their bike setup to suit the course in regards to wheelsize and unless most DH trails are designed or best suited to 29ers, it doesn't matter to the average rider that there a few situation where a 29er would be a good option especially at the premium for 29er parts. Its another trend bike companies push to move product and I can understand after having so many shoved on the market, trend after trend, why people don't like yet another one. It should be presented honestly rather than trying to sell it as something more that.
Last edited: