Go back to your hole.
Intense...stuff
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1st World Cup overall, 1st World Champs, 2nd Olympics. . . . you get internet in that cave, correct?
Yeah but that was LAST year. They were just pedaling harder to prove a point.
And there you have it. The evo sticker must be good for another 0.298653 seconds...
On a side note, everyone that works at Intense seems exactly as I imagine everyone from California...
On another side note, I actually think the bike looks sweet.
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Starting off with the 951 vs the M9. I wonder if they changed the leverage rate this time around?
such a terrible comparison on pinkbike. Different tires, different frames, different forks, same dry southern californian terrain. About as unscientific as you can get.
source?
It's still a better comparison than from sitting behind a computer on the internetz.
And to be fair, they said it wasn't apples to apples.
And to be fair, they said it wasn't apples to apples.
man the bike is long. spez has it right geo wise on there trail bike. keep the geo the same on 29 vs 26.
an even slacker head is not needed IMO.
951 EVO Geometry
Size (inch/mm)............Small .....................Medium....................Large
Wheelbase..................47" / 1193.8.............48" / 1219.2..............49" / 1244.6
Top Tube.....................22.5" / 572...............23.5" / 597................24.5" / 622
Chainstay....................17.5" / 444.5............17.5" / 444.5.............17.5" / 444.5
Head Tube...................4.5" / 114.................4.5" / 114..................5" / 127
Head Angle..................62.5.........................62.5...........................62.5
Bottom Bracket...........13.75" / 349.2..........13.75" / 349.2...........13.75" / 349.2
Fork Axle/Crown..........23" / 586
Shock...........................9.5 X 3.0" / 241 x 76
Bottom Bracket........... 83mm
Headset.......................1.5"
Seatpost Dia................31.6mm
Rear Travel..................8.5" / 216mm
Rear Spacing..............150mm
How should they compare them?
QFT (I'm typing this to make it long enough to post)
Either scientifically, or not at all. Ie, this bike rips, period, or do the full Monty and equip them the same.
These comparisons drive me crazy. I mean really, what's the point? Would they actually turn around and say the new bike was crappier?
The proper scientific comparisons exist among various factory dh teams, it's a matter of them making it public. The magazines could do the same easy enough, but it seems the rush to be First!!! trumps all.
I like it. Certainly an option for the intrepid. Does seem kinda long wheelbase wise tho. The ability for Intense to quickly tool up frames based on new trends and tech is pretty cool. Seems like their QC has improved?
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if you want it to be really scientific, you'll have to remove rider bias. so we need a robot. one of the factories in tawain should be able to help with that.
Honestly a couple of riders will erase any rider bias....or something like two pros and two AMs. Of course, the first person to the bottom is really the best test, but not the most scientific.
but that leads to another notion...who gives a **** which is scientifically better if the bike rides really well with bigger wheels? If the bike, as complete, doesn't ride well, it doesn't matter which size wheel it has.
but that leads to another notion...who gives a **** which is scientifically better if the bike rides really well with bigger wheels? If the bike, as complete, doesn't ride well, it doesn't matter which size wheel it has.
statistically speaking you'd need at least 3 riders testing each configuration to eliminate any rider bias 
oh sure, but you'd also need multiple trails, to blind the riders to their wheelsize, and to minimize weather conditions as well as the difference a few rounds on the same trail makes. Assume similar rider height and weight, same tires, same size bikes, and set up the bike to each rider's preference before each run...statistically speaking you'd need at least 3 riders testing each configuration to eliminate any rider bias
FOR SCIENCE.
are we really gonna discuss a gauge R&R for wheel sizes?
Currently riding a long wheelbase 29r I would actually rather have a nice stable DH bike and loose just a hair of maneuverability. I think it would give me a higher margin of safety. I am not chasing seconds or podiums but I guess the weekend worries point of view is irrelevant.
^^^The really slack front end also pushes the front wheel out a bit, adding to the wheelbase.
Some of you guys are pretty funny. Seriously, demanding science from RC? It's just riding impressions from some guys who got the chance to ride the bikes side-by-side. No one ever confused pinkbike (or MBA, for that matter) with a journal of engineering or science.
Some of you guys are pretty funny. Seriously, demanding science from RC? It's just riding impressions from some guys who got the chance to ride the bikes side-by-side. No one ever confused pinkbike (or MBA, for that matter) with a journal of engineering or science.
lol. we do have to remember, this was posted on da pinkbike.
still intrigued about the 27.5 dh rigs though.. id love to read a more in-depth comparison though. just gotta wait this one out
