So far, not too much that I have seen has been that exciting. Last year we had Saint and new Diabolus stuff for components. New frames from SC and Specialized. I have been waiting for this one though, the production Knolly V-tach's.
Interbike. Is it just me?
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you talking about the 6" blur? they are working on one, it's just not ready for prime time yet.the Inbred said:
The Be-One/Hayes version was very bitchin, simple and practical to manufacture.Transcend said:
personally, the best thing about going to Interbike is SWAG....it never seems to get old. I took this year off b/c I'm moving and stuff, just couldn't afford the time or money. I did notice that things seemed to slow down as far as innovation after 2001. Of course that was the first year I went and there was a lot of things I learned about suspension, construction, and manufacturers. I may go next year just so I can fill up my sticker box again...who knows...
The industry is still run by a bunch of non-riding fat-asses.
The primary trade show is still held in a non-bike city.
**** it all to hell.
The primary trade show is still held in a non-bike city.
**** it all to hell.
I assure you that you would be dropped in a cruel and unusual way by the guys I work for.Sideways said:
I totally agree, and I dont care what anyone thinks, or if the guys in some fecking bikeshop or whatever dont like it. Wtf?Sideways said:
Is that supposed to scare the guy? America is a free country and exactly who do you think gives a flying f**k what the guys you work for think? You've mistaken us for people who give a f**k.Damn True said:
Damn true! Literally.
Who's the noob with the tude?
The point (though I'm not sure why I'm taking the time to explain it) is that the bike industry is filled with fired up, super passionate, blazingly fast people who are doing this because they freakin love it.
Marshall likes to shoot his mouth off from time to time. He's angry that the rest of the world has yet to conform to the way he thinks we all ought to think.
The point (though I'm not sure why I'm taking the time to explain it) is that the bike industry is filled with fired up, super passionate, blazingly fast people who are doing this because they freakin love it.
Marshall likes to shoot his mouth off from time to time. He's angry that the rest of the world has yet to conform to the way he thinks we all ought to think.
Who the prick who doesn't realise he acts a dick? So I'm the noob with the tude, thankyou. I rather like speaking my mind, and wont take no BS off some ononymous fopol on an internet forum. Well I'm with Marshall on this one, the mtb business is a rip-off over-hyping, over-rated, pretentious industry, hes right to say what he did.Damn True said:
Looks like you should use lose the 'tude, boyo!
Sideways, your idealistic outlook on life cannot be applied to the real world. Whatever world you do live in, appreciate it, because the world DOES inherently use a system of economics in which business is a part of.Sideways said:
I always love your stereotypes. You sound like a stoned 16 year old when you post here...
So speak your mind.
I have 23 spare seconds. That oughta be enough time.
If this shin-dig is so bad maybe you ought to take up golf.
I have 23 spare seconds. That oughta be enough time.
If this shin-dig is so bad maybe you ought to take up golf.
I agree, you speak of this industry like it's your ex girlfriend who cheated on you and left you for someone else!
Over hyped?
Over rated?
pretentious?
Harsh words brother...nobody is making you participate, and I can promise you Sideways utopia makes a lot of real world sense. (insert rolleyes here)
Over hyped?
Over rated?
pretentious?
Harsh words brother...nobody is making you participate, and I can promise you Sideways utopia makes a lot of real world sense. (insert rolleyes here)
Are you trying to be 'clever'? Dont start getting cocky or trying to be smart dip****! Yeah its so bad! Wheres a tissue to dry my eyes? Maybe you should take up golf you opinionated, clueless, boring little ****er!Damn True said:
*cough* cunt! *cough*
And who asked you? NO ****ER! Thats who asked you so STFU, you interfering, annoying little cockrash.neversummersnow said:
Sideways talks the truth, you're just so ****ing god damn stupid and stuck in your ways to realise! Or maybe you're a figure in this bike business we all know of, yeah?
The fact of it is, its all about the mula, and to get said mula one must overhtpe, over-rate, over publicise, over advertise every god damnmtb product. The fact its the main players, big brands who do it the most, proves summat. Go figure.
Somebody needs a hug.
Chill on the language.
Chill on the language.
Yeah giz a hug, and lets all chill, yeah? Christ! Argueing over this makes us kinda look stupid, yeah?
Sorry for any offense caused,but i'm still sticking to my guns, with reason.
Sorry for any offense caused,but i'm still sticking to my guns, with reason.
So no more tears Damn True and neversummersnow. No need to cry because someone has the guts to speak their mind because they are fed-up with all the over-hyped, marketed crap we pay so much for. Truths hurts, like I care!
Fox, Manipoo, Rocksux, Hayes, Avid, Progressive etc etc..
Now tell me these aren't overhyped, over marketed,over-rated ****e!
Now tell me these aren't overhyped, over marketed,over-rated ****e!
When good n00bs go bad...tonight at 9.
I've seen this before... the same posting style of replying in a bunch of separate posts, the name-callling, ahhh... who was it...xbluethunderx said:
You said something about a scottish man...Sir, do you wear a kilt? Bagpipes? Eat babies?
Fox - One of the most innovative suspension manufacturers in the industry, great supporter of grassroots racers.The Hitman said:
Answer/Manitou - Excellent OEM partner, quality shocks. Made some bold moves with forks.
Rockshock - Another great OEM partner. Extremely generous in racer support.
Hayes - Quality product. Excellent distribution. Great retailer support.
Avid - Value leader.
Progressive - Cutting edge shock tech made more accesible every year.
I don't see what your gripe is with any of these companies.
Clearly you are
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jace said:
Yes, just follow this link: http://www.bikemagic.com/news/images/161_6182.jpg
or this: http://www.hcor.net/modules.php?full=1&set_albumName=album101&id=DSC_3534&op=modload&name=Photos&file=index&include=view_photo.php
hitman,
My point is this industry is not as lucrative as you percieve it to be. It's run by a bunch of people who have a passion for the sport but not the most savvy businessmen. The high prices come back to low volume and lots of companies producing similar product.
In truth, its a bunch of guys fighting for a big piece of a small pie. If you're sick of "over hyped" product, learn about something before you buy it! I seriously doubt your buying based on hype anyway. Can't blame the guys to try and use some fundemental marketing sense to make a profit!
Just so you know, it really does put you in your place when you choose words as you choose and make personal attacks on ME not WHAT I'm SAYING!!! Nothing wrong with disagreeing, just do it in a civilized, mature manor...it really shows your intellectual capacity.
Just so you know, I'm a college student who has a pretty good idea of the dynamics of the industry. By that I mean I have evidence to support my claims. I don't plan on making my living in the industry or anymore than a shop hourly wage through college.
My point is this industry is not as lucrative as you percieve it to be. It's run by a bunch of people who have a passion for the sport but not the most savvy businessmen. The high prices come back to low volume and lots of companies producing similar product.
In truth, its a bunch of guys fighting for a big piece of a small pie. If you're sick of "over hyped" product, learn about something before you buy it! I seriously doubt your buying based on hype anyway. Can't blame the guys to try and use some fundemental marketing sense to make a profit!
Just so you know, it really does put you in your place when you choose words as you choose and make personal attacks on ME not WHAT I'm SAYING!!! Nothing wrong with disagreeing, just do it in a civilized, mature manor...it really shows your intellectual capacity.
Just so you know, I'm a college student who has a pretty good idea of the dynamics of the industry. By that I mean I have evidence to support my claims. I don't plan on making my living in the industry or anymore than a shop hourly wage through college.
One more thing, until you actual go and design and produce something better than those companies you named off produce, keep it to yourself! They all make product that performs better than any product did 4 years ago!
SooThe Hitman said:
if it sucks so much why are you even here? Why are you even riding a bicycle for that matter? There are plenty of other sports, you know.
The Hitman said:
Exactly what, then, do you have for a bike?
Name all the components you have and see which one of them ISN'T somehow tied to this "evil empire" that you speak of.
so that leaves marzocchi, avalanche, and hope (maybe white bros) to take care of yr suspension and braking needs.The Hitman said:
so throw a set of mono6s on yr endless hardtail, and a marz66 on the front, and have fun.
wait, are shimano or SRAM overrated hype machines too? if so, good luck using the fred flintstone mode of propulsion.
Nope, not even many of them: they're evil too.narlus said:
From Marshalls own website:
Endless Bike Co. refuses to accept the bicycle industrys trend towards overseas manufacture. We have shaken the hands that build our bikes, and they are attached to good people who live right here in North Carolina.
USA made may be more expensive than Taiwan made, and we could easily sell you a much less expensive product by simply sending our business overseas, but in the end we all end up with less.
Why buy domestically produced products? What goes around comes around. You send your hard earned money off to the Far East and it's gone for good....as are the jobs that could have been kept here at home.
6% unemployment is simply unacceptable (as is the fact that more US tax dollars are spent on Israel than on our domestically unemployed, but that's another problem altogether).
That's one in every seventeen people without a job....think about it!
We beg you; Please see that the true cost of foreign made bicycles is far higher than the sticker price!
USA made may be more expensive than Taiwan made, and we could easily sell you a much less expensive product by simply sending our business overseas, but in the end we all end up with less.
Why buy domestically produced products? What goes around comes around. You send your hard earned money off to the Far East and it's gone for good....as are the jobs that could have been kept here at home.
6% unemployment is simply unacceptable (as is the fact that more US tax dollars are spent on Israel than on our domestically unemployed, but that's another problem altogether).
That's one in every seventeen people without a job....think about it!
We beg you; Please see that the true cost of foreign made bicycles is far higher than the sticker price!
Btw, last time I checked it was 5.4%. And, last time I checked, no president, democrat or republican, ever gave me a job. I went out and got it myself.
But I digress to another forum
You will probably not see any pics of his stuff on this board, beacuse a lot of monkeyskajo said:
don't like Ellsworth. He is such a lying a$$hole, most people could care less about his bikes, no matter how nice they "might" be.Fu@k Ellsworth!!!!! :mumble:
(sorry, I was having a knucle moment...)
ok.Sideways said:
Also, progressive, rockshox are some of the most supportive companies on the planet for regular joe racers. get a grip.
I give 'em a week tops before he/she get tossed out on their @ss....Dxbluethunderx said:
Did anybody see any new Dh tires from Michelin .Like a 2.5 comp 32??????I mentioned that to them like 2 years ago, and they said they were working on something like that.And since I'm a name and all,they probably got right on it.
I think a city with a motto of "What happens in vegas, stays in vegas" Is much more attractive than a city with 50 miles of paved bike lanes for granola eating 10 speed commuters.Sideways said:
A week??!!?? hehBMXman said:
Funnily enough, I don't recall seeing a Karp with a full-length seat tube...James | Go-Ride said:Funny, looks a lot like a Karpiel linkage that's been around since '97 with the shock mounted on a different rocker, as long as we're talking about who stole what . . .
What I'd really like to see would be some NEW stuff from Rohloff (Other than G-Boxx related stuff) Are they developing the internally geared hub any more or is all of their work focused towards Nicolai?
What I did enjoy seeing was this
What I did enjoy seeing was this