no i never brought up stiffness in that case, the deal there was stress risers in the pinch-bolt design and how its a heavier design vs. single cast piece. The weight factor in the swingarms case could be debatable since its a different type structure, but the point is there arent any generalities and many ways to skin the cat. Bolted structures are obviously very viable, just look around, welding is more of a structural rarity.Bulldog said:Didn't you argue the other side when it came to old Marzocchi forks with bolted arches and crowns vs the new one piece and press-fit technology?