[manhattanprjkt83]

Ok I just want to initially state that I dont care about your thoughts on the ipod, I love mine and will not change my mind...

Ok great, now that I have that off my chest, do you guys back up your ipods? If so how? I dont know about you, but my music is perfectly formatted and my playlists are a work of art, none of which I want to lose. I backed it up by viewing the hidden files on a windows machine and dragging them to my other drives...Does anyone know if this stores playlist information and how the file structure works?

The iPod does some crazy format stuff with the files and I was just wondering if anyone has used this method and had to use it to restore it?

 

[Transcend]

I use podworks to get songs off if i lose em from my laptop.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

I use podworks to get songs off if i lose em from my laptop.

is that a mac or pc application?

 

[Transcend]

mac .

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

mac .

havent made the switch yet :mumble: (it's in the works)...

 

[DHS]

www.versiontracker.com
search "ipod"

TONs of ripping programs.

mac or pc

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

www.versiontracker.com
search "ipod"

TONs of ripping programs.

mac or pc

right on

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

Fraser, are you still going to do those podcasts?

 

[bballe336]

Fraser, are you still going to do those podcasts?

I would like to know as well. Definitely would be cool.

 

[Transcend]

I plan on it. The problem right now is finding the time and go purchase the hardware i need to record phone audio. Probably a $29 radio shack gizmo. No software seems to want to record from the modem line on the powerbook. (It is possible, but extremely uncommon).

So if anyone knows how to do this, what software I need etc... lemme know. The website infrastructure is all in place, and i have interviews ready to go.

 

[James]

Fraser, are you still going to do those podcasts?

He talks a mad game, but he's too busy eating gas station hot dogs and complaining that his 1,800 downloads are slowing down his T6546876512.776 line (he's the only person in the world with a connection that fast).

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

p3owned.

 

[merrrrjig]

My computer doesnt have enough space to back up the files, but I HIGHLY recommend backing up your files, because I am on my 4th iPod, they break a lot, but I guess it has nothing to do w/ that more about your computer

 

[Transcend]

He talks a mad game, but he's too busy eating gas station hot dogs and complaining that his 1,800 downloads are slowing down his T6546876512.776 line (he's the only person in the world with a connection that fast).

huh ?

 

[narlus]

seems like a silly question....to get onto yr iPod, they first need to be on yr computer, right?

any data on yr computer should be backed up, if you care about it.

 

[Transcend]

seems like a silly question....to get onto yr iPod, they first need to be on yr computer, right?

any data on yr computer should be backed up, if you care about it.

Many people transfer to ipod and delete from computer. 40-60g Ipods make life easy. Painful if you lose it though..

 

[caputo1989]

Tell your computer that the IPod is an external HD and you can upload them to your computer without any programs.

 

[-dustin]

seems like a silly question....to get onto yr iPod, they first need to be on yr computer, right?

any data on yr computer should be backed up, if you care about it.

 

[narlus]

Many people transfer to ipod and delete from computer. 40-60g Ipods make life easy. Painful if you lose it though..

well if they delete it from their computer before making a backup, it's obviously not that important to them to take the 10 minutes and burn a DVD.

i've burned over 120 data DVDs now. yeah it's kind of a sucky use of time, but peace of mind from the countless hours ripping and fixing ID tags is more than worth it, given the unpredictability of hard drives.

 

[Transcend]

well if they delete it from their computer before making a backup, it's obviously not that important to them to take the 10 minutes and burn a DVD.

i've burned over 120 data DVDs now. yeah it's kind of a sucky use of time, but peace of mind from the countless hours ripping and fixing ID tags is more than worth it, given the unpredictability of hard drives.

Most people have no idea that dvd burners exist, let alone make habitual backups. I am convinced that Ipod users for the majority, are the lowest common denominator of computer users.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

Many people transfer to ipod and delete from computer. 40-60g Ipods make life easy. Painful if you lose it though..

True, and my music files on my iPod are organized very well (as far as tags go), better than on my PC.

 

[Toshi]

True, and my music files on my iPod are organized very well (as far as tags go), better than on my PC.

uh, do tell how you fixed/altered the tags on the ipod but not on the pc.

<-- /me thinks this thread is silly. if you're going to waste the space for a backup you might as well just leave everything in itunes.

 

[dexterq20]

me thinks this thread is silly. if you're going to waste the space for a backup you might as well just leave everything in itunes.

I just ordered a 250 gig external hard drive today so that I can back up all my files on my computer, but my biggest concern would be losing all my mp3s. If I lost my music collection, I'd probably have to kill myself.

 

[jdcamb]

I used a Ipod Nano as a alarm clock to notify the occupants of a conference room that their meeting is ending over the sound network. It plays the beatles "While my guitar gently weeps" per customer request. I had a custom controller made to interface with it. The company did it for free as it was their first control integration with an Ipod. Cool stuff. I may design more stuff using Ipod as they are cheap and fun.

I love my Ipod by the way. I use it to test digital sound equipment.
With one of these and some RCA to BNC connectors I can test almost anything.

I cannot recommend these more as bud replacements. Cheap and good.

Podcasts rock by the way.....

 

[narlus]

True, and my music files on my iPod are organized very well (as far as tags go), better than on my PC.

bullcrap. editing tags using iTunes involves gracenote. something like Tag&Rename accesses freedb or Amazon. neither database is error-free, so there is always manual checking involved regardless of the one used. one aspect of using iTunes to do tag mods manually is that it is easier to batch changes of a lot of files (ie, changing the Genre field), and adding artwork (if it's not in Amazon) is easier via drag-n-drop.

spoken as a true mp3 ID tag nerd. i've wasted (invested?) countless hours getting my 500GB as correct as possible. you ever try to tag 90,000 songs? it takes a while, regardless of what you use.

 

[MMike]

90,000 songs.

do you have Freebird?

 

[Ridemonkey]

Many people transfer to ipod and delete from computer. 40-60g Ipods make life easy. Painful if you lose it though..

Why would you do that? HD space is cheap. I've got over 4000 songs on mine, which I would wager is more than the average Joe, and it only takes up 20 gigs.

 

[Transcend]

I have 40gb of MP3s on my laptop. Laptop HDDs are not cheap. mom and pop anybody dont routinely buy more HDDs to install.

 

[Curb Hucker]

He talks a mad game, but he's too busy eating gas station hot dogs

James that joke is so old, damn thats from like this time last year. ink:

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

bullcrap. editing tags using iTunes involves gracenote. something like Tag&Rename accesses freedb or Amazon. neither database is error-free, so there is always manual checking involved regardless of the one used. one aspect of using iTunes to do tag mods manually is that it is easier to batch changes of a lot of files (ie, changing the Genre field), and adding artwork (if it's not in Amazon) is easier via drag-n-drop.

not sure what you are trying to say here, that my iPod isnt organized ...ummm ok but everything IS organized exactly how i want it, thus the reason for starting this thread to protect my time investment.

pardon my ignorance if i am missing something...

 

[Toshi]

i still want to know how you manage to organize your ipod better than the music on your computer? do you manage everything manually through some third party interface software? why oh why?

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

i still want to know how you manage to organize your ipod better than the music on your computer? do you manage everything manually through some third party interface software? why oh why?

no im just saying the songs in the ipod are organized via editing the info in them, some of my mp3 files on my computer dont have all of the categories correctly filled out.

 

[narlus]

do you have Freebird?

yes. from the 1st record. not the interminable live version (although "Workin' For MCA" on _Two From The Road_ kicks ass.

 

[narlus]

no im just saying the songs in the ipod are organized via editing the info in them, some of my mp3 files on my computer dont have all of the categories correctly filled out.

ok, but here's where Toshi and i have difficulties...

how did you edit/organize the mp3s on yr iPod? a whole bunch of money says you used your COMPUTER to do it, in one fashion or another.

why can't you also provide that same effort, using the same method, to the remaining mp3s on your computer?

 

[HOOWAH]

I've got about 100Gb of music in about 16K songs. My library is on a 200Gb external drive. I have a friend with another 200Gb drive that is a near mirror. We get together routinely to exchange new stuff. Recently his external went down, and the backup was a matter of copy paste from mine.

As far as organizing and tags... If you're a neat freak about your music, you'd hate my library. But you know what, you can spend months fixing stuff to perfection, or spend a few minutes finding stuff to put on the pod every couple weeks. I mean, it's fairly well organized, but who gives a damn if there is a duplicate song or two on the pod, after all, there is a "next" button.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

ok, but here's where Toshi and i have difficulties...

how did you edit/organize the mp3s on yr iPod? a whole bunch of money says you used your COMPUTER to do it, in one fashion or another.

why can't you also provide that same effort, using the same method, to the remaining mp3s on your computer?

Totally uderstand where you are going with this, i was a bit confused above...I just never went to the trouble to organize my files on my computer as i did on my ipod (genre and things like that)...And of course i use my computer, hahahha i can see how you guys were thinking "what in the f is up with this guy"...

 

[narlus]

i've got a fairly methodically method where i burn backups of tagged and organized mp3s before i put them into the 'music library' folders, import them into iTunes, or otherwise make them available for use.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

i've got a fairly methodically method where i burn backups of tagged and organized mp3s before i put them into the 'music library' folders, import them into iTunes, or otherwise make them available for use.

that is on my list of things to do...I have all my backups and back ups of the back ups ...Just need to get that type of organization going...

 

[Ridemonkey]

I have 40gb of MP3s on my laptop. Laptop HDDs are not cheap. mom and pop anybody dont routinely buy more HDDs to install.

External HD holmes. I got a couple 160GB LaCies for $120 each, and that was a year ago. You can probably get 250GB drives for that now.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

External HD holmes. I got a couple 160GB LaCies for $120 each, and that was a year ago. You can probably get 250GB drives for that now.

You can, i just bought exactly that :hot: