[Changleen]

You're having to take out a second major city now, because of how well you dealt with the first one, and guess what, there are already noises being made in the others because of your current actions. No prizes for guessing that if continue on this course of action, more death and destruction will follow. The more you fight them, the more they fight back, and get more Islamic radicals from around the world to join in.

What needs to be done is being done, IMO. The remnants of the Ba'ath party and the moneys that fund it are being swept up as we speak in Fallujah. This will take time, but a plan is in place. A very viable plan...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/11/international/middleeast/11cnd-iraq.html

As U.S. Advances in Falluja, New Fighting Erupts in Northern Iraq
November 11, 2004

BAGHDAD, Nov. 11 - Insurgents launched attacks in the northern provincial capital of Mosul today, opening a major new front in the fighting, while American troops in Falluja pushed into the city's southern warrens, where guerrillas were believed to have barricaded themselves.

In Baghdad, a powerful suicide car bomb exploded on a busy commercial street downtown this morning, killing at least 17 people and wounding at least 30 others, military officials said. In the evening, explosions rippled across the capital with an intensity not seen here since August, when American soldiers fought a Shiite uprising in the south.

The new violence in the north of the country came as American marines and soldiers renewed their three-day-old push through Falluja, in central Iraq. The invasion began at the northern boundary of the city early Monday but had slowed considerably along a line marked by the main thoroughfare through town. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Richard Myers, said coalition forces now controlled well more than half of Falluja.

Insurgents in Mosul overran several police stations and looted the buildings of weapons, ammunition and body armor, police officials and witnesses said. By afternoon, they had seized five bridges across the Tigris River, which splits the city in half. Columns of smoke filled the sky, and residents said the city, the third largest in Iraq, had been thrown into a whirlwind of chaos not seen since the Americans first invaded Iraq in March 2003. [/quote]

 

[dan-o]

Time to ramp up Grapalm production!

 

[Changleen]

Time to realise the current way of doing things in Iraq is stupid?

 

[BurlyShirley]

Time to realise the current way of doing things in Iraq is stupid?

You mean you actually thought that every radical in the entire country was in Fallujah? And that none were capable of doing anything elsewhere?

You're on a roll this week.

 

[pnj]

Time to realise the current way of doing things in Iraq is stupid?

then what? nothing is going to change in iraq as long as people with a sh1t ton of money stand to make more money by sending US troops over there.

want change in the middle east? start using up the earths gas/oil, start some fires!!!(using gas, of course.) :evil:

 

[Changleen]

You mean you actually thought that every radical in the entire country was in Fallujah? And that none were capable of doing anything elsewhere?

No, In fact that was my point. You on the other hand:

The remnants of the Ba'ath party and the moneys that fund it are being swept up as we speak in Fallujah.

You're on a roll this week.

 

[nicklin]

You mean you actually thought that every radical in the entire country was in Fallujah? And that none were capable of doing anything elsewhere?

You're on a roll this week.

Has anyone sent Changleen a carepackage that includes an application to join the Freedom Fighters? I think he's ready.

 

[Changleen]

then what? nothing is going to change in iraq as long as people with a sh1t ton of money stand to make more money by sending US troops over there.

That's pretty much the problem right there...

 

[Changleen]

Has anyone sent Changleen a carepackage that includes an application to join the Freedom Fighters? I think he's ready.

Nice to see you've started spell-checking your posts.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Has anyone sent Changleen a carepackage that includes an application to join the Freedom Fighters? I think he's ready.

Aww... he won't do it. He's a lot like the lib's in the US who claim they are moving to Canada.... they ain't gonna do it because they know they have too damn good where they are at.

 

[Changleen]

Aww... he won't do it. He's a lot like the lib's in the US who claim they are moving to Canada.... they ain't gonna do it because they know they have too damn good where they are at.

That's why I moved out of the US to NZ... Just too damn 'good' in the US.

 

[Changleen]

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FC86975A-A92E-4980-A716-CB733C9903C1.htm

Journalists based in Mosul are telling Aljazeera that anti-US fighters in Mosul may have taken control of the northern Iraqi city, contrasting US military statements that the situation is under their control.

Various reports on Friday suggested that Iraqi police and national guards had disappeared from view as masked armed men were wandering freely around Iraq's second largest city.

A main road to the local governorate and police station was littered with roadside bombs, making movement in the heart of the city hazardous, French news agency AFP reported.

Lieutenent Colonel Paul Hastings, the US military spokesman in Mosul, however, said that the situation was under control.

The "governor is actively involved in restoring police presence and is in control of the security situation in the city," he told AFP in an email.

"Mosul is not out of control nor is the city in the control of the insurgents," he said.

'Control the streets'

Eyewitnesses in Mosul told Aljazeera.net that major sections of the city had been seized by anti-US fighters who were seen patrolling the streets.
"They control the streets, no one is going out for fear of more US air strikes," Abd Allah Ghafar, a freelance journalist in the city told Aljazeera.net in a telephone interview.

"The situation is very bad, there is no security, only armed resistance groups on the streets and it seems there is no government in Mosul," he said.

Another Mosul-based journalist told Aljazeera that US armoured vehicles were forced to retreat from two main bridges they had blocked off after coming under a fierce mortar barrage and rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) fire.

"US forces have separated the two sides of Mosul city by deploying armoured vehicles on the bridges linking them," Muhammad Thu al-Nun said.

'Fierce attacks'

"However, these armoured vehicles have come under fierce attacks by mortar shells and rocket-propelled grenades, forcing them to withdraw and return to their bases."

"The city is now calm," Thu al-Nun added.

But US military spokesman Captain Angela Bowman explained that retreat was carried out at the request of the governorate to allow civilians to attend weekly prayers at the mosques.

Bowman admitted there were "pockets of resistance".

"In the southwestern area there are terrorists and insurgents on the streets but this is not city wide. We are still well in control," she said.

A night time curfew, imposed earlier in the week initially until Friday, will remain in place from 4:00pm (1300 GMT) until 6:00am, Hasting said, without specifying when the order would expire.

 

[genpowell71]

Now why would you quote anything from Al Jezeera? Everyone (except you) knows that they are the mouthpiece for ANY terrorist organization. And please dont give me any lip about it being accurate. Even the FRENCH have said that they are a bunch of tools (not a quote) there. So please do us a favor. Hurry up and make your video of you wearing a headwrap because your too much of a coward to show your face. Make sure that you put all sorts of anti-American rhetoric in it and then please go join you bretheren in Fallujah so we can hurry up and capture and interrogate you.

 

[slein]

Aww... he won't do it. He's a lot like the lib's in the US who claim they are moving to Canada.... they ain't gonna do it because they know they have too damn good where they are at.

take off, you hoser. CANADA rules, even if we do have draft dodgers and pot smokers (yay MJ).

IRAQ on the other hand is a quagmire. urban fighting sucks.... glad it ain't me over there. i feel bad for the troops though... no one seems to care about them.

ya got saddam, so get the **** out man. the UN is better at running elections than the US is... so let's get on with their democracy (that is, if they're ready for it)

again, no point really.

 

[Changleen]

Now why would you quote anything from Al Jezeera? Everyone (except you) knows that they are the mouthpiece for ANY terrorist organization. And please dont give me any lip about it being accurate. Even the FRENCH have said that they are a bunch of tools (not a quote) there. So please do us a favor. Hurry up and make your video of you wearing a headwrap because your too much of a coward to show your face. Make sure that you put all sorts of anti-American rhetoric in it and then please go join you bretheren in Fallujah so we can hurry up and capture and interrogate you.

Hey, maybe when you can spell the name of the organisation you criticise whilst clearly knowing nothing about or having the slightest rational though about I might take you post seriously and give you a decent reply. Until then, rent the 'control room' movie, read the website occasionally, and take your very tiny head out of your ass, Killer.

 

[genpowell71]

cant stand it that I'm right huh?

 

[Changleen]

cant stand it that I'm right huh?

It was your complelling and well though-out argument that convinced me.

 

[genpowell71]

I just find it curioius that while the ENTIRE world knows that Jazeera is FOS and nothing more than (like I said) a mouthpiece for Muslim Extremists, why you would quote them and use stories that they publish on the net as feesible arguments to slander the US. We all know we have an idiot for a president. So what he prays. The vice president is a poster child for angina relief and will need another heart surgery in 5 years. Dude, move on already.

 

[Toshi]

I just find it curioius that while the ENTIRE world knows that Jazeera is FOS and nothing more than (like I said) a mouthpiece for Muslim Extremists

who appointed you to speak for the "ENTIRE world"?

 

[Changleen]

I just find it curioius that while the ENTIRE world knows that Jazeera is FOS and nothing more than (like I said) a mouthpiece for Muslim Extremists, why you would quote them and use stories that they publish on the net as feesible arguments to slander the US. We all know we have an idiot for a president. So what he prays. The vice president is a poster child for angina relief and will need another heart surgery in 5 years. Dude, move on already.

Please post some evidence of a story on Al Jazeera that is a mouthpiece for Muslim Extremists. Look, they are a Middle eastern news organisation. They are highly professional and many of their journalists are European trained and in many cases have worked for other news agencies. Just because you don't like what you read on Al-J it doesn't mean it is any less valid than any of your 'friendly' news organisations. They report the news from a middle eastern perspective. Please, watch 'Control Room' or simply spend a bit of time on their site before you condemn them as a mouth piece for Muslim Extremism. I think you'll find their journalists are actually a bunch of highly educated, moderate Arabs who find the acts of Extremism as ugly as anyone else. They simply report things that certain US media sources ignore or shy away from.

If EVERYONE thinks they are so full of ****, where do they draw revenue from? I suppose Osama funds them himself? Get a clue.